Confirmed with Link: Chabot fired

[MCDAVIDISH]

Good move but doesn't fix this organizations real issues. Time to fire from the top down for once. If we are always having to fire guys at the bottom end of the operations it means the guys at the top are doing something wrong, over and over again.

 

[Horseradish]

More nepotism. Lovely.

I wonder how many people they interviewed...

 

[Gone]

Glad Chabot is gone, but I have no faith in his replacement. Seems like another guy that has some connections in the city and never did anything as a pro.

Look at teams like LA and Arizona. They hire proven NHL winners as goalie coaches and get great results. We hire our buddies from around town and then drag out firing them because we like them as friends. Oilers problem in a nutshell.

Exactly. This hiring is just another symptom of the real problem.

 

[Kayen]

what kind of drills does he do?

More emphasis on tracking the puck and reading and reacting opposed to blocking which Chabot seems to prefer (more of an Allaire school of goalie coaching), hence you saw why DD and now Ben are dropping sooner than they are with other teams....

 

[s7ark]

More nepotism. Lovely.

I wonder how many people they interviewed...

Well he did G coach for the Oil Kings, so not very hard at all.

And this would actually be cronyism. Nepotism is family.

 

[Supermassive]

dominoes!

seriously, this guy should've been canned last year..but MacT needed a scapegoat in case things went south this year...predictably they did and Chabot is sacrificed to appease the masses and buy management time...

 

[Jean Ralphio]

what kind of drills does he do?

Hopefully it's something intricate like this.

 

[Mowzie]

Glad to see this as I don't think we've had a goalie improve under him, but he is only one of many issues here. A step in the right direction.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

Only several years too late

Hearing that the Oil Kings goalie is going to be replacing him. Why can't we ever get actual NHL staff with an NHL track record to fill NHL staff positions?

Edit: just read through the thread. Seems like we're all thinking the same thing

Good move but doesn't fix this organizations real issues. Time to fire from the top down for once. If we are always having to fire guys at the bottom end of the operations it means the guys at the top are doing something wrong, over and over again.

Nailed it.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Way, way, WAY over-due. It's truly amazing what it takes to get fired in this organization. This is a nice start, but still many more changes need to be made before I'm anywhere near satisfied with the coaching and management in place for this team.

 

[McDrai]

This Schwartz guy didn't even play in a professional league and he's only 35. Would have preferred a goalie coach who has played in the NHL and is more experienced but this is the Oilers we are talking about here.

 

[Halibut]

Nice try but I'm sure there are 6 or 7 more levels in there before we get to Lowe. Let's see if we can fix your list.

Rank the problems with this team:

1. Lowe
.a. Joey Moss
2. MacT
.a. Howson
.b. Buchberger (from whatever secret mission he is on)
3. Eakins
.a. the guy who fills the water bottles.
.b. skate sharpener
.c. physio therapist
.d. yoga instructor
4. Center
5. Defense
6. Scouting
7. Chabot - FIRED
8. Roster player related to coach - TRADED

It's a start.

 

[Xelebes]

It's a tip of the problem but a tip brings some joy. Now change the defense system that works against modern offense systems.

 

[TheGuyInTheChair]

Finally.

 

[Vagabond]

More nepotism. Lovely.

I wonder how many people they interviewed...

This Schwartz guy didn't even play in a professional league and he's only 35. Would have preferred a goalie coach who has played in the NHL and is more experienced but this is the Oilers we are talking about here.

Exactly right!

This organisation can't do anything right!

Good firing and a bad hiring!

How many pro games has Schwartz coached again? Zero! Yep!

 

[Frank the Tank]

Only several years too late

Hearing that the Oil Kings goalie is going to be replacing him. Why can't we ever get actual NHL staff with an NHL track record to fill NHL staff positions?

Edit: just read through the thread. Seems like we're all thinking the same thing




Nailed it.

Because if you are Bill Ranford, Sean Burke, Mitch Korn, etc... why would you leave your current job, pack up your family, and head to Edmonton to do the same job you currently do? Katz would have to be willing to disrupt the entire pay structure of the Oilers management and/or the league to snag top-tier talent. I am not saying that would be a bad approach for the Oilers to take, and as of now it seems like the only way for Edmonton to attract top level talent.

 

[oobga]

Except Chabot was awful and didn't improve a single goaltender, just made them all worse.

Should have been fired in the summer. We only kept him to be a fall guy if the entire team failed yet again. We aren't here just because of Chabot and we should all know that.

For sure he was crap, but he should have been gone a long time ago. Just pointing out how this crooked management group operates and that no one should still be getting fooled by it. They likely actually think the fans are stupid enough that this is all they need to do to appease us.

 

[McPuritania]

About ****ing time.

Let me guess though, this new goalie coach is a rookie?

ffs, reading through the thread, it seems as if he is. Why hire an experienced former NHL'er when you can install Chabot 2.0?

 

[guymez]

More emphasis on tracking the puck and reading and reacting opposed to blocking which Chabot seems to prefer (more of an Allaire school of goalie coaching), hence you saw why DD and now Ben are dropping sooner than they are with other teams....

Thanks for your input Kayen.

Had to sift through a lot of noise in this thread but posts like this make that worthwhile.

So Schwartz emphasizes more of a stand up style? Does this not lend itself to being more reflex dependent?

 

[ToeMcDrag83]

It's a start.

I don't know enough about goalie coaching to know if this Schwartz guy a good hire.

The pessimist in me (i.e. me) tells me this is yet another coach with no NHL experience. Not playing, not coaching.

Also tells me that MacT still believes in the Scrivens-Fasth duo.

He's an Oil Kings guy, so I wonder whether the due diligence was given to finding the best possible replacement. It feels like cronyism still.

He worked with Brossoit, so MacT could be thinking way in the future as far as goalie-goalie coach success. Was it a possibility to look for coaches who've worked with Scrivens or Fasth before rather than a goalie who does not play for the Oilers right now?

Guess we'll see... all that being said, this is only the tip of the iceberg when trying to address the long list of problems with the organization.

 

[Soundwave]

I would think they would eventually bring in someone more experienced at some point.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

This is perfect!

We hire a Junior Coach for our Junior goalies, and an AHL coach for our AHL team.



Am I doing it right?

 

[djlegacy]

First sign Chabot to a new contract in summer 2014. Next fire him 2 months into the season. Replace him with another rookie coach with zero NHL experience who is also a member of the organization and without actually interviewing any other candidates. Yep, sounds about right for the Oilers management. Katz sure must enjoy paying salaries of coaches that don`t actually coach for the team.

This team is doomed to failure as long as they continue to repeat every single mistake that got them here in the first place.

Kruger, give a vote of confidence then fired two months later whether warranted or not.

Gagner, given a new three year deal with a NTC in the second and third year and a promise from Mactavish that he wouldn`t be traded in the first year. Traded before NTC kicks in.

Chabot, given a new deal when everyone and their dog could see there were issues with goaltending. Fired two months into the season. While warranted, this is a scapegoat move to save others.

You can live or die with your reputation and I`m not sure who would believe a word that comes out of Mactavish`s mouth.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I would think they would eventually bring in someone more experienced at some point.

Don't hold your breath on that.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I would think they would eventually bring in someone more experienced at some point.

And risk getting someone like Perron who is upset with the current culture?

GOD no! They need someone who fits right into this culture, and will not demand any accountability from the higher ups.

Its the Oiler Way!