CBJ Powerplay 2021-22

[VT]

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Laine is a sniper, Bjorkstrand isn`t a playmaker too, Werenski is more a sniper too. I don`t thik it`s ideal.
Bjork has very good chemistry with Nyquist so I join them together. Voracek with Laine and Boqvist to them. Roslovic is excelent in the middle. I`m not sure Werenski should be with Laine. Bjorkstrand IMHO could play in the middle too but whom to right, Domi or Nyquist. Werenski, I don`t know he is good on the blue line I prefer another d-man. Bean or maybe Lehtonen. Laine would be good in two PP but I doubt it espacially if Werenski plays in the second PP in left side... . Don`t forget Bemstrom, Texier, ... . Simply it`s difficult.

 

[stevo61]

I agree with Major set up with 1 minor difference of flipping Roslovic and Nyquist in the high/low positions. Voracek and Boqvist are legit PP players so theyll be used.
The only question I have is will they run 3 forwards to get Z on there just as some goodwill thing. Unless they get real creative and play Z in a "rover" position which is basically the bumper spot like Canada used Pietrangelo way back in the world juniors but I dont think it is optimal to have him on PP1

 

[majormajor]

I agree with Major set up with 1 minor difference of flipping Roslovic and Nyquist in the high/low positions. Voracek and Boqvist are legit PP players so theyll be used.
The only question I have is will they run 3 forwards to get Z on there just as some goodwill thing. Unless they get real creative and play Z in a "rover" position which is basically the bumper spot like Canada used Pietrangelo way back in the world juniors but I dont think it is optimal to have him on PP1

- Roslovic was so darn good from the bumper last year, I wouldn't move him. Nyquist was a good bumper the previous year but he was scoring at about half the pace of Roslovic.

- If people really want to see Werenski on the top unit then maybe they can try having Voracek make plays from beside the net?

-------- Voracek
Laine - Roslovic - Werenski
-------- Boqvist

-------- Domi
Laine - Nyquist - Bjorkstrand
-------- Bean

Werenski would score more from the halfwall, I think, than either the point or the bumper. He's deadly coming in off the side.

 

[stevo61]

- Roslovic was so darn good from the bumper last year, I wouldn't move him. Nyquist was a good bumper the previous year but he was scoring at about half the pace of Roslovic.

- If people really want to see Werenski on the top unit then maybe they can try having Voracek make plays from beside the net?

-------- Voracek
Laine - Roslovic - Werenski
-------- Boqvist

-------- Domi
Laine - Nyquist - Bjorkstrand
-------- Bean

Werenski would score more from the halfwall, I think, than either the point or the bumper. He's deadly coming in off the side.

That was the other option, I thought of the old Maple Leafs PP when Sundin was on the team and ran a lot down low with cross crease or low to high passes. Boqvist and Voracek arent big shooting threats so maybe Z there does make sense. I still think I like the 5 us and many others probably like but it should be interesting regardless

 

[VT]

- Roslovic was so darn good from the bumper last year, I wouldn't move him. Nyquist was a good bumper the previous year but he was scoring at about half the pace of Roslovic.

- If people really want to see Werenski on the top unit then maybe they can try having Voracek make plays from beside the net?

-------- Voracek
Laine - Roslovic - Werenski
-------- Boqvist

-------- Domi
Laine - Nyquist - Bjorkstrand
-------- Bean

Werenski would score more from the halfwall, I think, than either the point or the bumper. He's deadly coming in off the side.

IMHO Voracek would be better at right side and Werenski not with Laine in the first PP. Plus Zach is LD. But in this case where him. But I don't believe Patrik will play two PP.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I can't imagine that Z won't get a shot on PP unit 1. Offhand, I can think of 9,583,333 reasons why he'll be there to start the season.

 

[majormajor]

I can't imagine that Z won't get a shot on PP unit 1. Offhand, I can think of 9,583,333 reasons why he'll be there to start the season.

I hope that's not the kind of logic Lars uses.

 

[Fro]

I hope that's not the kind of logic Lars uses.

Logic he will use is 3rd in goals by defenseman since 2016....its a no brainer he is on PP1

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Logic he will use is 3rd in goals by defenseman since 2016....its a no brainer he is on PP1

No. I think some theoretical equation would definitely take precedence over this meaningless statistic.

 

[stevo61]

Logic he will use is 3rd in goals by defenseman since 2016....its a no brainer he is on PP1

50 of those goals are 5 on 5 where he holds most of his value. I think he needs a little work on being a PPQB and thats why Boqvist should get a real look there. His shot is great for a PP but he could stand to use the rest of the guys on the ice more. Unless hes opposite of Laine and just provides more shooting options vs running the PP

 

[majormajor]

Logic he will use is 3rd in goals by defenseman since 2016....its a no brainer he is on PP1

That would be better logic than using his salary to determine which PP he is on, yes.

 

[VT]

Logic he will use is 3rd in goals by defenseman since 2016....its a no brainer he is on PP1

Werenski can`t be PPQB in PP if a sniper is there. The true he always prefers to rung to offense what is bad for offensive LW.

That would be better logic than using his salary to determine which PP he is on, yes.

Honestly, Werenski will be in PP1. It's more likely Laine will be reassigned to PP2 (although if with Boqvist it would be only good). And nobody will interest Zach loves to shoot even in cases if pass is better. Ideal partners for him are both of them, Kuraly and Jenner in PP.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I hope that's not the kind of logic Lars uses.

How about the logic that he's tied for 17th in PP goals and T19th in PP points among defencemen since he came into the league?

NHL Stats

He's going to be on PP1. It would be absurd not to have him on it.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

———Voracek
Laine-Roslovic-Werenski
———Boqvist

———Nyquist
Bemstrom-Bjorkstrand-Domi
———Bean

 

[majormajor]

How about the logic that he's tied for 17th in PP goals and T19th in PP points among defencemen since he came into the league?

NHL Stats

He's going to be on PP1. It would be absurd not to have him on it.

I was objecting to the idea of using someone's salary as a basis for decision making about which PP they play on.

If he was that good at the PP you'd think people would have said it was absurd last year when he wasn't on PP1. But no one said a peep about it. And now that he's making the big bucks it would be absurd not to have him on it.

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Should he be on PP#1? His stats are actually not that impressive for a PP quarterback. Per minute he's 48th in PP scoring among D-men. Personally I think Zach's skillset probably lends itself better to the halfwall position, which is why I'd like to see

-------- Voracek
Laine - Roslovic - Werenski
-------- Boqvist

I question whether Werenski's skills come out as a PP pointman. That and if you're going to be at the point teeing up Laine it sure helps to be a right-shot. Last year the top unit scored about 60% more per minute with Jones as the QB rather than Werenski.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I was objecting to the idea of using someone's salary as a basis for decision making about which PP they play on.

If he was that good at the PP you'd think people would have said it was absurd last year when he wasn't on PP1. But no one said a peep about it. And now that he's making the big bucks it would be absurd not to have him on it.

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Should he be on PP#1? His stats are actually not that impressive for a PP quarterback. Per minute he's 48th in PP scoring among D-men. Personally I think Zach's skillset probably lends itself better to the halfwall position, which is why I'd like to see

-------- Voracek
Laine - Roslovic - Werenski
-------- Boqvist

I question whether Werenski's skills come out as a PP pointman. That and if you're going to be at the point teeing up Laine it sure helps to be a right-shot. Last year the top unit scored about 60% more per minute with Jones as the QB rather than Werenski.

I was tongue-in-cheek regarding salary. But I think that it would be awful hard not to play the league's 3rd highest AAV dman on its PP. Especially when you're coming off one of the worst seasons in the league.

I would imagine that it's fresh start time for everyone and all systems. As such, I think the coaching staff will do everything that they can to make Z be comfortable as PP QB.

Last year Z had a 35 game sample. It should be thrown into the dust bin along with most everything from last season. Also, without Jones around, it will be assumed that Z picks up the PP QB ball until he fumbles it repeatedly.

 

[CBJx614]

Idc if he's the PP QB or if he's on the halfwall, as long as he's producing the PP is not bottom 10 in the league.

 

[Hulide]

Play the Best on PP1. Bjorkstrand is the best Forward he needs to play PP1

 

[stevo61]

Play the Best on PP1. Bjorkstrand is the best Forward he needs to play PP1

Best players and best PP players are very different things. 5v5 and 5v4 are drastically different as we painfully had to watch. Being a good PP player is a skill and I dont agree with Torts and his philosphy that playing on the PP is some sort of reward for good play elsewhere

 

[tunnelvision]

It would make more sense to Werenski to play the quarterback position if there was left-handed one-timer specialist on right halfwall that Werenski could regularly pass to. A fake shot -pass to left side (Laine) is much easier for the PK to read than it is to the right side if you're left-handed. Also Werenski's one touch and backhand passing skills are not elite level which makes him kind of predictable point guy. Speaking of left-handed shooters, Hoffmann has proved he can rip one-timers in euro league games from that spot but I don't know if he will ever succeed in NHL. Chinakhov might grow into a Tarasenko/Kucherov-type guy who can be very deadly halfwall player but probably isn't ready for PP1 role this year.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Play the Best on PP1. Bjorkstrand is the best Forward he needs to play PP1

I can't believe how little the previous coaching staff utilized Bjorkstrand on the PP. I think he'd be a great "bumper" in the middle with his sneaky shot.

-----net front player (Roslovic or Jenner?)
Laine - Bjorkstrand - Voracek
------Werenski / Boqvist

if we keep the 1-3-1 set up. If you run it through Voracek on the wall, he then has three righty outlets (if you put Boqvist at the point) who would all be in a quick position to shoot a one-timer. I do think they need to figure out their righty/left pairings because a lot of time can get lost if a player needs to receive the pass and then flip the puck over to their forehand. That extra half a second or so is all it takes for a defender to block the shooting lane.

 

[VT]

It would make more sense to Werenski to play the quarterback position if there was left-handed one-timer specialist on right halfwall that Werenski could regularly pass to. A fake shot -pass to left side (Laine) is much easier for the PK to read than it is to the right side if you're left-handed. Also Werenski's one touch and backhand passing skills are not elite level which makes him kind of predictable point guy. Speaking of left-handed shooters, Hoffmann has proved he can rip one-timers in euro league games from that spot but I don't know if he will ever succeed in NHL. Chinakhov might grow into a Tarasenko/Kucherov-type guy who can be very deadly halfwall player but probably isn't ready for PP1 role this year.

All is right but... will Hofmann be regural in the roster? I don`t see any place for him or Danforth.

It would make more sense to Werenski to play the quarterback position if there was left-handed one-timer specialist on right halfwall that Werenski could regularly pass to. A fake shot -pass to left side (Laine) is much easier for the PK to read than it is to the right side if you're left-handed. Also Werenski's one touch and backhand passing skills are not elite level which makes him kind of predictable point guy. Speaking of left-handed shooters, Hoffmann has proved he can rip one-timers in euro league games from that spot but I don't know if he will ever succeed in NHL. Chinakhov might grow into a Tarasenko/Kucherov-type guy who can be very deadly halfwall player but probably isn't ready for PP1 role this year.

IMHO this is why Jones was a better fit for Laine than Werenski (and he for Domi). Besides, Zach is more of a shooter who prefers shooting over passing. It's still questionable how much hockey vision he has, whether he's better than Boqvist or Bean or not.

 

[majormajor]

I can't believe how little the previous coaching staff utilized Bjorkstrand on the PP. I think he'd be a great "bumper" in the middle with his sneaky shot.

-----net front player (Roslovic or Jenner?)
Laine - Bjorkstrand - Voracek
------Werenski / Boqvist

if we keep the 1-3-1 set up. If you run it through Voracek on the wall, he then has three righty outlets (if you put Boqvist at the point) who would all be in a quick position to shoot a one-timer. I do think they need to figure out their righty/left pairings because a lot of time can get lost if a player needs to receive the pass and then flip the puck over to their forehand. That extra half a second or so is all it takes for a defender to block the shooting lane.

I agree on giving Voracek as many RH one-timer options as you can. Quick one-touch movement above all else.

I have no objection to trying Bjorkstrand in the bumper but I don't know how anyone can be expected to do better than Roslovic did in that role last year.

 

[tunnelvision]

I can't believe how little the previous coaching staff utilized Bjorkstrand on the PP. I think he'd be a great "bumper" in the middle with his sneaky shot.

-----net front player (Roslovic or Jenner?)
Laine - Bjorkstrand - Voracek
------Werenski / Boqvist

if we keep the 1-3-1 set up. If you run it through Voracek on the wall, he then has three righty outlets (if you put Boqvist at the point) who would all be in a quick position to shoot a one-timer. I do think they need to figure out their righty/left pairings because a lot of time can get lost if a player needs to receive the pass and then flip the puck over to their forehand. That extra half a second or so is all it takes for a defender to block the shooting lane.

I think Bjorkstrand scored a lot of PP goals from that exact bumper spot when playing in Portland. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I agree, he can fire pucks from that position but I always find myself holding my breath and sensing various uncomfortable tensions in my body if he doesn't get the puck in his "wheelhouse" and he is forced to pass it back to right side, left side or up to the point. His passing skills don't impress me to say the least. And even when players have just entered the zone and are setting up the 1-3-1 formation, they usually switch places which means that Bjorkstrand needs to play some positions temporarily (down low and right halfwall) with puck on his stick before getting into his bumper spot. And those areas are not his "office" on powerplays. Again, haven't seen a lot of games from last year but I have to say I like major's idea of having Roslovic in the bumper more just because of his versatility.

My guess is that the line up you posted above is the one coaches will try out first once the camp starts. Most expensive guys belong to PP1 I guess. And yeah, they will probably run most of the plays through Voracek. In that case they'll probably pick a left-handed guy to play in front (=more room for passing). Just please don't be Jenner.

 

[majormajor]

I think Bjorkstrand scored a lot of PP goals from that exact bumper spot when playing in Portland. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I agree, he can fire pucks from that position but I always find myself holding my breath and sensing various uncomfortable tensions in my body if he doesn't get the puck in his "wheelhouse" and he is forced to pass it back to right side, left side or up to the point. His passing skills don't impress me to say the least. And even when players have just entered the zone and are setting up the 1-3-1 formation, they usually switch places which means that Bjorkstrand needs to play some positions temporarily (down low and right halfwall) with puck on his stick before getting into his bumper spot. And those areas are not his "office" on powerplays. Again, haven't seen a lot of games from last year but I have to say I like major's idea of having Roslovic in the bumper more just because of his versatility.

My guess is that the line up you posted above is the one coaches will try out first once the camp starts. Most expensive guys belong to PP1 I guess. And yeah, they will probably run most of the plays through Voracek. In that case they'll probably pick a left-handed guy to play in front (=more room for passing). Just please don't be Jenner.

While I'd prefer to stick with Roslovic who had great results in the bumper last year, I don't share this reaction to Bjorkstrand. He showed much better vision last year. I think his touch is good all-around and his hockey sense is superb. He is excellent at winning pucks back in any game state. My only hesitancy with him in the bumper is more that he plays with a longer stick and he doesn't pivot as quickly as Roslovic. Really I just think Roslovic is perfect for that job. It's rare for a bumper guy to lead a PP in scoring, because it's hard to run a lot of plays through such a tight space. But Roslovic just did that by executing whatever plays came his way.