Prospect Info: Carl Neill, 2015 5th Round Pick (144th Overall)

[Phenomenon13]

I just noticed today that Carl Neill is in the Q and not in the AHL.


Is there a reason he is not playing for Utica?

 

[Waveburner]

I just noticed today that Carl Neill is in the Q and not in the AHL.


Is there a reason he is not playing for Utica?

He's not ready. Weak skater and extremely raw defensively. Probably not a prospect worth investing time. Solid Q player, not much pro future IMO

 

[geebaan]

He's not ready. Weak skater and extremely raw defensively. Probably not a prospect worth investing time. Solid Q player, not much pro future IMO

Thats extremely dissapointing to hear. Can't we just take skill in the later rounds? Please....

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Oops

 

[NoRaise4Brackett]

Thats extremely dissapointing to hear. Can't we just take skill in the later rounds? Please....

Isn't that what they did when they drafted a dman that can put up points? - hoping he rounds out the rest of his game?

I've heard a lot of people say defence can be learned/taught, and a lot of people point to Horvat and say skating can be improved, so...

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Thats extremely dissapointing to hear. Can't we just take skill in the later rounds? Please....

He's a D that puts up a much of points. He's the perfect example of drafting skills in the late round.

 

[timw33]

Thats extremely dissapointing to hear. Can't we just take skill in the later rounds? Please....

We did. We took a player who has shown good offensive skill, but needs to round out rest of their game. It's the exact kind of player we should be taking. Much better this than Mackenzie Stewarts and Sawyer Hannays.

 

[geebaan]

He's a D that puts up a much of points. He's the perfect example of drafting skills in the late round.

My bad, I must have been thinking of another one of our D prospects. I never associated him as a "skill" player. Much like a Garrison or Bouwmeester type, who can put up points but you wouldn't call them skilled offensive players. Wish he had their defensive games at least haha.

 

[Siludin]

28 points in 22 games from a defenseman is nothing to scoff at regardless of his age. He has size to spare, too.

With his size and some more coaching in the AHL, this guy might be able to play. At the very least he should push fringe guys like Subban/Sautner.

 

[FlowMaster]

We need to stockpile 5th round picks. Heck, let's swap all of our picks and pick the entire 5th round this year.

 

[Siludin]

We need to stockpile 5th round picks. Heck, let's swap all of our picks and pick the entire 5th round this year.

Only if they are defensemen

edit: Wait, forgot about Gaudette! But I went back a little bit, Gaudette is the only forward the Canucks have taken in the 5th round since Prabh Rai in 2008. Even when the Canucks took Gaudette, they took Neill in the 5th round too.

 

[VanJack]

We need to stockpile 5th round picks. Heck, let's swap all of our picks and pick the entire 5th round this year.

And while we're at it maybe we can find a way to get back that fifth rounder we flushed away for 20 games of Brandon Prust last season.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

And while we're at it maybe we can find a way to get back that fifth rounder we flushed away for 20 games of Brandon Prust last season.

And the sixth round pick we gave up for 20 games of Emersen Etem.

 

[TheWanderer]

And while we're at it maybe we can find a way to get back that fifth rounder we flushed away for 20 games of Brandon Prust last season.

And the sixth round pick we gave up for 20 games of Emersen Etem.

Man... every thread I've opened today has a DIFFERENT REASON to hate Jim Benning...

How isn't he fired yet?

 

[VanJack]

Neill wasn't all that impressive in two prospects tournaments and still doesn't have a contract.....unlikely he gets signed, although a PTO in Utica might work.

 

[DL44]

Neill wasn't all that impressive in two prospects tournaments and still doesn't have a contract.....unlikely he gets signed, although a PTO in Utica might work.

No need to sugar coat it... he was VERY bad at the prospects camp this summer.
BUT.. he just turned 20.. and he's ripping it up for his team currently Offensively at least.

At 6'3, he's a project worth seeing through and hope with experience comes some 2-way reliability.

You have Neill and another dman (who I assume is his D partner) leading the squad in points with 31-32 pts... the next dman on the team has 7 points.


- Currently is 3rd in the Q in dmen scoring. Leader has 33, his partner has 32, he has 31.

 

[VanJack]

No need to sugar coat it... he was VERY bad at the prospects camp this summer.
BUT.. he just turned 20.. and he's ripping it up for his team currently Offensively at least.

At 6'3, he's a project worth seeing through and hope with experience comes some 2-way reliability.

You have Neill and another dman (who I assume is his D partner) leading the squad in points with 31-32 pts... the next dman on the team has 7 points.


- Currently is 3rd in the Q in dmen scoring. Leader has 33, his partner has 32, he has 31.

Yep...have to concede...he was pretty brutal in the prospects tourney....and the Canucks have two other guys coming out of junior, Olson and Brisebois, who will need contracts....can't sign all of 'em.

 

[Siludin]

Yep...have to concede...he was pretty brutal in the prospects tourney....and the Canucks have two other guys coming out of junior, Olson and Brisebois, who will need contracts....can't sign all of 'em.

Does anyone see the Canucks re-signing Pedan, Billins, McEneny, or Nilsson at the end of the year?

I sorta want to see how Olson/Brisebois/Neill pan out. I think the Canucks only have 47 players under contract right now.

 

[RobertKron]

Does anyone see the Canucks re-signing Pedan, Billins, McEneny, or Nilsson at the end of the year?

I sorta want to see how Olson/Brisebois/Neill pan out. I think the Canucks only have 47 players under contract right now.

Nilsson, Billins, and Pedan fill totally different organizational roles than those other three would be taking.

 

[me2]

Does anyone see the Canucks re-signing Pedan, Billins, McEneny, or Nilsson at the end of the year?

I sorta want to see how Olson/Brisebois/Neill pan out. I think the Canucks only have 47 players under contract right now.

Utica contracts could work for some of those guys rather than NHL deals.

 

[Siludin]

Utica contracts could work for some of those guys rather than NHL deals.

Don't they relinquish their rights if only Utica signs them, though? If they start to have a good season in the minors, they can sign an entry-level NHL deal with anyone. The Canucks would need to sign them to retain their rights.

 

[GetFocht]

There needs to be more discussion of him, 6'1, 200lbs, RH Defenceman.

Currently:

#1 in Points (for defenceman)
#1 in Goals (for defenceman)
#1 in Shots (for defenceman)
#1 in Dangerous Shots (for defenceman)
#3 in Assists (for defenceman
#3 in Points Per Game (for defenceman)

He's putting up an excellent season and is doing what you would want out of a draft pick which is dominating his league.

There is some real upside here and he has proven he can take the next step to the AHL at the very least.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

There needs to be more discussion of him, 6'1, 200lbs, RH Defenceman.

Currently:

#1 in Points (for defenceman)
#1 in Goals (for defenceman)
#1 in Shots (for defenceman)
#1 in Dangerous Shots (for defenceman)
#3 in Assists (for defenceman
#3 in Points Per Game (for defenceman)

He's putting up an excellent season and is doing what you would want out of a draft pick which is dominating his league.

There is some real upside here and he has proven he can take the next step to the AHL at the very least.

Uh, no he hasn't. But those are encouraging numbers. Let's hope he can keep on developing in Utica next season.

 

[GetFocht]

Uh, no he hasn't. But those are encouraging numbers. Let's hope he can keep on developing in Utica next season.

Typically when a junior player dominates his league and position, then he is ready for the next step.

What is the next logical step of progression? The AHL, is it really hard to grasp that he is ready to at least start playing in the AHL

 

[MS]

Neill has almost 2/3 of his points on a stacked PP.

He's not a good skater and isn't great defensively. Very borderline whether he's worth signing.