Player Discussion Carey Price - Who's Your Daddy? Edition

[ahmedou]

Not a top 3 goalie when you include the part of the season when we had Benn, Schlemko, Ouellet, Reilly, Alzner playing D for us. Once the D stabilized, Price was most certainly one of the best. Circumstance matters. No goalie would of put of solid numbers with the D we had from Oct to end of Nov. At one point for 2 or 3 weeks in November, it was Petry and a bunch of 3rd pairing guys.

But the way Price played from Dec to end of the year was impressive. Some of the best we have seen from him and apparently he is not in his prime anymore to some

It's out of his reach. His approaches as a goalie was disrupted. Overthinking too much. About things he's not related to it. Too much burdens to take care. Overcharged by that.

Conceded unpossessing of the puck. Again and over. Turning off the overturnovers. Unpositioned pions in front of him. What else.

Guess what that's not pleasant to deal with it.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

He would say it but it wouldn't be true.

Weber comes back and his numbers immediately spike. It speaks for itself.

Sure it made a difference, but Price was struggling early on with or without Weber.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Sure it made a difference, but Price was struggling early on with or without Weber.

Disagree and the numbers don't support it either.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Sure it made a difference, but Price was struggling early on with or without Weber.

He was strong the first ten games. Went threw a small slump and made his way up once Weber retuned. The slump was overplayed because he was under a microscope. It happens and he was coming off an unnaturally weak year the season prior.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Disagree and the numbers don't support it either.

The numbers do support it though, he had a SV % sub 900 or barely over it for a stretch. I'm not saying it was indicative of his season, but I'm not sure why you would deny that.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

He was strong the first ten games. Went threw a small slump and made his way up once Weber retuned. The slump was overplayed because he was under a microscope. It happens and he was coming off an unnaturally weak year the season prior.

True, people still had it in the back of their minds that he was going to repeat the year before. For awhile it looked like those concerns were legit, but he bounced back as strong as ever. Hard to get a nomination behind that D corp and on a non playoff team. He was top 5 this year IMO, but not top 3.

 

[ahmedou]

Price gets new tattoos in Calgary. On his left arms. Many symbols.

Bears. Forrest. Mountain. Airplane, certainly of his dad Jerry who brought him on his games and practices when he was young. Falcon.

An Anaheim Lake's representation.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The numbers do support it though, he had a SV % sub 900 or barely over it for a stretch. I'm not saying it was indicative of his season, but I'm not sure why you would deny that.

Because if you look at the article I posted it showed that a replacement goalie would've probably gotten killed to the tune of 5 points.

We were really good at limiting perimeter shots, really bad at letting in close ones and about average at giving up shots overall. So basically our guys couldn't defend for shit.

It still wasn't great when Weber came back but at least it was somewhat better. Cripes man, half the players who started the year on that back end got demoted or waived at one point or another last year. It was horrible.

 

[ahmedou]

Even a 1.000 % save, it's inevitable. Price gonna receive unfounded critics by then...

 

[Cole Caulifield]

Because if you look at the article I posted it showed that a replacement goalie would've probably gotten killed to the tune of 5 points.

We were really good at limiting perimeter shots, really bad at letting in close ones and about average at giving up shots overall. So basically our guys couldn't defend for ****.

It still wasn't great when Weber came back but at least it was somewhat better. Cripes man, half the players who started the year on that back end got demoted or waived at one point or another last year. It was horrible.

All of the above is mumbo jumbo '' advanced '' stats nonsense.

Anyone who watch games realize Price sucked early on.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Because if you look at the article I posted it showed that a replacement goalie would've probably gotten killed to the tune of 5 points.

We were really good at limiting perimeter shots, really bad at letting in close ones and about average at giving up shots overall. So basically our guys couldn't defend for ****.

It still wasn't great when Weber came back but at least it was somewhat better. Cripes man, half the players who started the year on that back end got demoted or waived at one point or another last year. It was horrible.

Except we were above average at limiting high danger scoring chances during Price's slump. He was bad for 5-10 games. There is no reason to deny this. In fact, he wasn't just bad, he was brutal, but he did bounce back.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

All of the above is mumbo jumbo '' advanced '' stats nonsense.

Anyone who watch games realize Price sucked early on.

Says the Therrien supporter...

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Except we were above average at limiting high danger scoring chances during Price's slump. He was bad for 5-10 games. There is no reason to deny this. In fact, he wasn't just bad, he was brutal, but he did bounce back.

We were third worst in the league at allowing in close shots.

 

[ahmedou]

Impossible to debate with each others. If we're not looking attentively at the stats before talking.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

We were third worst in the league at allowing in close shots.

At the time we weren't we were middle of the pack.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

At the time we weren't we were middle of the pack.

No, we were third worst. At the end of the year we were fifth worst.

We were about average overall for shots against if I remember correctly.

 

[LaP]

So Price got a Bruins tattoo?

Carey Price montre fièrement son nouveau tatouage honorant ses origines - Balle Courbe

 

[DAChampion]

All of the above is mumbo jumbo '' advanced '' stats nonsense.

Anyone who watch games realize Price sucked early on.

People don't want to believe that Price has significantly declined

Fact is, he will be an adequate goalie for the next while, with frequent subpar stretches.

He's being paid 11 million/year because he has the potential to sometimes have good stretches.

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

People don't want to believe that Price has significantly declined

Fact is, he will be an adequate goalie for the next while, with frequent subpar stretches.

He's being paid 11 million/year because he has the potential to sometimes have good stretches.

Price has not declined. That is simply false. He’s actually gotten better. Look at his play in 17-18 and compare it to how he’s played this year. He was better, right? Therefore, Price did not decline. He improved. Mind blowing.

 

[DAChampion]

Price has not declined. That is simply false. He’s actually gotten better. Look at his play in 17-18 and compare it to how he’s played this year. He was better, right? Therefore, Price did not decline. He improved. Mind blowing.

Price peaked in the period 2014 through to 2016. He had a good three year peak. H

will never again experience such a peak.

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

Price peaked in the period 2014 through to 2016. He had a good three year peak. H

will never again experience such a peak.

His incredible run did not end in 2016 because he was a Vezina nominee in 2017. He had one off year in 2018 and returned to being the best goalie in the world in 2019. This is the best he’s played since 2015.

 

[BLONG7]

Price peaked in the period 2014 through to 2016. He had a good three year peak. H

will never again experience such a peak.

When Weber returned this year, and the Habs sent 3 Dmen to the AHL Price was top 3-5 the rest of the season...he has alot left in the tank..................Price is the least of our worries...when he gets a decent NHL D corps in front of him, like almost every goalie in the league he is one of the best. Be glad we have one of the best....and by the way the cap hit is 10.5 not 11.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Price peaked in the period 2014 through to 2016. He had a good three year peak. H

will never again experience such a peak.

I think if we get a decent D his numbers will take a big bounce. Even just with Weber's return his numbers jumped.

If we keep putting him behind what he had in the 17-18 season though...

You can't have Jordie Benn used on your first pairing and expect it not to hurt you.

 

[nhlfan9191]

People don't want to believe that Price has significantly declined

Fact is, he will be an adequate goalie for the next while, with frequent subpar stretches.

He's being paid 11 million/year because he has the potential to sometimes have good stretches.

He was signed to $10.5 million because of how consistent he was. He gets hot frequently and stays hot for abnormal amounts of time. Inconsistency has recently worked its way into his game a bit, but the team around him has a lot to do with it.

Price peaked in the period 2014 through to 2016. He had a good three year peak. H

will never again experience such a peak.

He’s going to be 32. And his peak years were at a very high level. Even if he has regressed a little, which to be honest he has a little physically in my opinion but nothing major, he is still a top 5 goalie and still arguably the best in the league.

 

[japhi]

All of the above is mumbo jumbo '' advanced '' stats nonsense.

Anyone who watch games realize Price sucked early on.

I watched all those games and saw a tender hung out to dry by one of the worst d cores I’ve seen. Odd man rushes galore. Price wasn’t spectacular but no goalie is playing behind an AHL d.

Weber came in, stabilized the backend and Price looked great.