Carey Price is bad.

[JianYang]

He's been quite an injury prone goalie.

He had a great start to 08-09, and then bombed after a high ankle sprain. Then he went 3 seasons in a row where he couldn't even finish the season in 11-12, 12-13, and 13-14.

Since then, he's missed virtually an additional 2 full seasons with major knee issues.

He was a great goalie, but injuries have taken a toll, and they have finally caught up. That's not to say he can't be good, but his days of being at the very top are done IMO.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Yep

This is why I don't watch hockey games anymore. Nothing is more satisfying than drinking a cold beer while reading stats.

 

[HOPE]

He's been quite an injury prone goalie.

He had a great start to 08-09, and then bombed after a high ankle sprain. Then he went 3 seasons in a row where he couldn't even finish the season in 11-12, 12-13, and 13-14.

Since then, he's missed virtually an additional 2 full seasons with major knee issues.

He was a great goalie, but injuries have taken a toll, and they have finally caught up. That's not to say he can't be good, but his days of being at the very top are done IMO.

if we drafted kreider instead of leblanc, Price has 3 vezina and possibly a stanley cup!!

 

[Halakitlikethat]

I would take 10 million in cap space over Price.

Habs have a ton of cap space

 

[Bounces R Way]

The problem with paying a goalie that much money for that long is that it's stupid and you shouldn't do it ever.

 

[Kennedys]

AH ! The weekly "Price is bad/overrated" thread

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

I mean... he is, but you don't need to rub it in!

The cap space stuff would be relevant if the Habs had any use for that cap space at all. In my gut I know that 10.5m to a goalie who plays at most 70-80% of games is ridiculous but so far it hasn't impacted a thing on the Habs. Maybe if every Habs player turns out to be a stud (as many Habs fans like to imagine) and they all merit big raises it will turn out to be painful but by then we hope the cap will be higher.

The league is turning to be very top-heavy, and if young players and RFAs keep getting exploited then the Habs will have no choice but to trade away middle talents like Danault and Petry.

 

[BrendanGallagher11]

Hes won has last 4 starts

Looked damn good

 

[alg363636]

Hes won has last 4 starts

Looked damn good

vs Chicago Ott x 2 and Carolina. Okay.

Look he has been average to slightly below average all year. He hasn't been bad recently, but is that really the bar you want for a 10.5 million dollar goalie?

Fortunately Montreal has a ton of cap space so it doesn't really matter but it's not a good situation.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Hes won has last 4 starts

Looked damn good

He had a sub .900% in one of them and I think a .905 in another...not that good...

If we want to use wins as a metric then price has been middling at best through his career. The number of times he couldn't crack 20 or 25 wins is amazing when you consider how hyped he is.

When you look a his ability (or inability) to stay below a 2.5 GAA and when you look at his sv% it's similarly eye opening.

Guy couldn't stay healthy but for awhile, when he was healthy (and on his game), he was obviously a top G. They don't give you wins for all the games you miss though. They can't erase all the goals you let in during your down seasons either.

After dealing with some truly awful posts from habs fans in the "Is Price a HHOFer?" thread I'm loving this season. If he turns things around then it will be a microcosm of his career.

Good call to those select few. Real HOF stuff lol

 

[Kunta Kinte]

He had a sub .900% in one of them and I think a .905 in another...not that good...

If we want to use wins as a metric then price has been middling at best through his career. The number of times he couldn't crack 20 or 25 wins is amazing when you consider how hyped he is.

When you look a his ability (or inability) to stay below a 2.5 GAA and when you look at his sv% it's similarly eye opening.

Guy couldn't stay healthy but for awhile, when he was healthy (and on his game), he was obviously a top G. They don't give you wins for all the games you miss though. They can't erase all the goals you let in during your down seasons either.

After dealing with some truly awful posts from habs fans in the "Is Price a HHOFer?" thread I'm loving this season. If he turns things around then it will be a microcosm of his career.

Good call to those select few. Real HOF stuff lol

He is a HOF Lock. I can bet with you any five figures you want on it.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

and it does not include last night win against the bruins where he made 41 saves out of 43

 

[Kunta Kinte]

and it does not include last night win against the bruins where he made 41 saves out of 43

Nah... he is bad... read the thread...1 good season only (thats the best one tp see who is really a dumbass).

 

[Hostile Offer]

It's pretty crazy how Weber comes back and Price has looked like his old self ever since.

 

[King Mapes]

Nah... he is bad... read the thread...1 good season only (thats the best one tp see who is really a dumbass).

He isn't the hat good that's for sure. He had 2-3 good years though. But he'd need an incredible back half of his career to make the Hall. He could do it

 

[HabsDood]

lol

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

It's pretty crazy how Weber comes back and Price has looked like his old self ever since.

Having Weber instead of Benn on the top pairing does wonders to a goalie

 

[danisonfire]

He had a sub .900% in one of them and I think a .905 in another...not that good...

If we want to use wins as a metric then price has been middling at best through his career. The number of times he couldn't crack 20 or 25 wins is amazing when you consider how hyped he is.

When you look a his ability (or inability) to stay below a 2.5 GAA and when you look at his sv% it's similarly eye opening.

Guy couldn't stay healthy but for awhile, when he was healthy (and on his game), he was obviously a top G. They don't give you wins for all the games you miss though. They can't erase all the goals you let in during your down seasons either.

After dealing with some truly awful posts from habs fans in the "Is Price a HHOFer?" thread I'm loving this season. If he turns things around then it will be a microcosm of his career.

Good call to those select few. Real HOF stuff lol

If price wins a Stanley Cup he would be a lock.

That being said he does have a gold medal from the Olympics (.972 save %), has won a WJC (mvp of tournament/best goalie, .961 save%), several NHL trophies with a few key ones and has collected 304 wins. If he could pass 551 wins and hit second on the all time list plus maybe add another few key trophies he would have a shot in a weaker year without a cup. He would have to at least play until 40 and I doubt he catches Martin Brodeur in wins.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

He is a HOF Lock. I can bet with you any five figures you want on it.

Lock now? That means he retires now and is in. You're wrong if that's what you mean. Like I said, it would not be surprising if he plays another 5-10 years and does get in.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Nah... he is bad... read the thread...1 good season only (thats the best one tp see who is really a dumbass).

Would you kindly put up his stats before dec 1?

Or do you only indulge in cherry picking a mo th of play and extrapolating that to a HOF career while ironically calling other people dumbasses?

Which, yes, saying he had 1 good season is dumb. But so is your comment

 

[Riddum]

It's pretty crazy how Weber comes back and Price has looked like his old self ever since.

Nevermind the fact that even with Weber, the Habs have one of the worst defense in the league. Without Weber it was in fact the worst.

But eh, Price sucks and shouldn't be allowed in the NHL. He's an AHL goalie at best. He wouldn't hack it in the KHL. Hell, he probably wouldn't cut it in the SEL

 

[ijuka]

Wow, Price on a hot streak? Stop the presses. Niemi had a similarly hot streak just last season.

Still worth nowhere near what he's being paid.

 

[sandysan]

It's pretty crazy how Weber comes back and Price has looked like his old self ever since.

yeah who would have thought that having a less totally AHL level defense might help a goalie out ?

its stuff like this that the analytics nerds needs to let us know about !

 

[smack66]

Price has flashes of brilliance and looked great against the Bruins. The problem is that he has been extremely inconsistent the last few years. If he can finish the season strong and maybe have a good playoff run then the salary makes sense. Until then, in my opinion, he remains an extremely good goalie who is overpaid compared to his peers

 

[The Macho King]

Nevermind the fact that even with Weber, the Habs have one of the worst defense in the league. Without Weber it was in fact the worst.

But eh, Price sucks and shouldn't be allowed in the NHL. He's an AHL goalie at best. He wouldn't hack it in the KHL. Hell, he probably wouldn't cut it in the SEL

When a goalie is paid 10.5 million a season and is put forward as "OMG BEST IN THE LEAGUE!" they don't get to use the "but they have a shitty defense" defense. You pay a goalie that much to cover for a shitty defense, not to be covered for their bad play by using shitty defense as an excuse.