Carey Price is bad.

[Vancouver Canucks]

I've been saying this for years.

He's probably even worse than my weak goal count, as a lot of pucks should just be hitting this guy due to his massive girth and equipment. So goals that don't really look stoppable on him are probably shots that hit other similarly structured goalies like Ben Bishop.

I think he's a ghost. It feels as if pucks go through him.

 

[BLONG7]

The Habs are 3oth in the league in giving up high danger chances...haters gonna hate..............he is not playing nearly as bad as people think...watch the games...
That contract though....the result of a clown GM who is in over his head.

 

[IWD]

Thought it said Carey Price is bald at first. He will regain form in Seattle.

Ooo, that's an interesting possibility. Do players with NMCs need to be protected in the expansion draft?

 

[Jack DiBiase]

Thinking about a team and not a goalie... would about 3 GAA seem “out there” for a team you know is putrid defensively?


I don’t doubt Price had been playing bad, but goalies stats are team stats more than any other position
Sub .900 definitely looks bad but I don’t know enough about hockey how to analyze that and 3GAA together on a really bad defensive team.


If they’re allowing opponents to consistently own the net-front and walk into the slot, and or allowing opponents much zone time and generally losing small puck battles I can imagine that majorly affecting a goalies stats

Can't like this post enough for just a like button. That is 100% true. Price has been very good this season and starting to look like himself time to time. It's the overall team defence that has been absolutely terrible. The d-core is filled with waiver-wire-caliber 7th defencemen playing 20mins per game, so naturally the goalies stats are doomed to fail.


EDIT: The contract is still terrible, but we know that.

 

[Seb]

I take Price over most goalies.

 

[The Macho King]

I take Price over most goalies.

I would take 10 million in cap space over Price.

 

[kp61c]

I take Price over most goalies.

good for you that he's on your team then.

 

[Seb]

I would take 10 million in cap space over Price.

His contract is really tarnishing his value, but as a hockey player, as a goalie, I still take him over most goalies.

 

[Seb]

good for you that he's on your team then.

I'm not one to complain, we've had an elite NHL goalie for a decade

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I've got to remember to link to that hilarious thread where a few desperate Habs fans wanted to offer some of the more insipid arguments I've ever seen in favor of Price being in the HHOF

 

[Brobust]

It’s like the pressur eof his contract has shook him. He needs to see a sports phsycologist and find a way to get focused again

No.

He's got knee issues. I think he had some groin injury as well. Those types of injuries lead to quick, irreversible declines for big goalies.

 

[gorangers0525]

Bad is an understatement. He’s been truly awful for a long time already.

 

[Nizdizzle]

Ooo, that's an interesting possibility. Do players with NMCs need to be protected in the expansion draft?

Yes, unless they agree to waive them.

 

[613Leafer]

Is it the worst contract in the entire cap era (assuming he doesn't improve)?

• 8 year contract
• In year 1, he's tied for 3rd highest caphit in the entire league
• In year 1, he's in the running for worst starting goalie in the NHL
• Goalies, unlike forwards/defencemen, are only valuable (i.e. worth more than a ~2M caphit) if they're a #1G. A #1C can still slowly shift to a #2C then #3C as they decline, and still retain at least fairly decent value. Goalies can't really play a depth role. They're either starting or they're not.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Don't ever give big term and cap to any goalie past their mid 20s, and never pay any goalie anything north of $7.5-8m. You can thank me later.

I mean.

I feel that outside of 1 man, anybody who has ever watched a hockey game knows these things.

I agree but there are exceptions. It worked very well for the Rangers. Hank has been great and still is a very good goalie.

 

[sansabri]

Strange timing... am I missing something?

 

[Albatros]

Seriously, trade him away and watch what happens to the team's win%.

In any case Niemi has a significantly better win%.

 

[ottomaddox]

It should be like saying water is wet or the sun is hot at this point.

That contract is an absolute albatross.

almost total confusion.

 

[Sens With Benefits]

To be fair he played very well last night against Ottawa.

 

[RogerRoger]

Can't like this post enough for just a like button. That is 100% true. Price has been very good this season and starting to look like himself time to time. It's the overall team defence that has been absolutely terrible. The d-core is filled with waiver-wire-caliber 7th defencemen playing 20mins per game, so naturally the goalies stats are doomed to fail.


EDIT: The contract is still terrible, but we know that.

Yeah, but the Habs Defense used to be putrid as well and Price would carry the team to the playoffs anyway or at least play great and have great stats.

 

[gorangers0525]

Is it the worst contract in the entire cap era (assuming he doesn't improve)?

• 8 year contract
• In year 1, he's tied for 3rd highest caphit in the entire league
• In year 1, he's in the running for worst starting goalie in the NHL
• Goalies, unlike forwards/defencemen, are only valuable (i.e. worth more than a ~2M caphit) if they're a #1G. A #1C can still slowly shift to a #2C then #3C as they decline, and still retain at least fairly decent value. Goalies can't really play a depth role. They're either starting or they're not.

He could drastically improve to “average”, and the contract would still be awful. I still don’t think the Rangers should have signed Lundqvist to his contract, but at least he had a large sample size of being an elite goalie. Price had a good season, a fantastic season, and then got paid like he’s been elite for a decade.

His defense isn’t great. He is far from the only goalie dealing with this issue.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Is it the worst contract in the entire cap era (assuming he doesn't improve)?

• 8 year contract
• In year 1, he's tied for 3rd highest caphit in the entire league
• In year 1, he's in the running for worst starting goalie in the NHL
• Goalies, unlike forwards/defencemen, are only valuable (i.e. worth more than a ~2M caphit) if they're a #1G. A #1C can still slowly shift to a #2C then #3C as they decline, and still retain at least fairly decent value. Goalies can't really play a depth role. They're either starting or they're not.

to make it even worse, he is 31 in the 1st year of the deal.

So they are paying an overrated goalie $10m a year from ages 31-39

 

[Todd from Leduc]

I’d do Lucic for Price one for one.

 

[Tuggy]

He was really good last night.

 

[RibFrabcus]