Movies: Captain Marvel

[SirQuacksALot]

Movie isn't even out yet and it's getting review bombed. No way this isn't the work of soft-bodied trolls.

 

[x Tame Impala]

I just hope it’s a good movie and that she’s a good character so her presumable big role in Endgame is a net positive to the movie.

People’s social implications of the movie are predetermined anyway and only matter as much as you chose to let them.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

I just hope it’s a good movie and that she’s a good character so her presumable big role in Endgame is a net positive to the movie.

People’s social implications of the movie are predetermined anyway and only matter as much as you chose to let them.

yup.

pretty telling that after 11 years and 20 movies, Marvel getting around to featuring one of its female heroes (and one of the biggest in the comic books) is suddenly "SJW garbage and pandering"

i swear this country needs to wash the sand out of its "area" sometimes and just enjoy things without politicizing it

 

[ThePhoenixx]

No, because the only commentary I pay attention to and the kind that should matter is that this is the first female lead Marvel movie.

Well. There you go.

If one is going to ignore facts because they don't agree with them, then its hard to take that opinion seriously on the matter.

 

[Jussi]

There was elektra but I take it you speak more in terms of this current MCU; but this discussion will ever into politics and social justice stuff which is frowned upon here so we will have to agree to disagree on what the comment in her tweet is about

Elektra was Fox so it doesn't count.

All this social justice talk is completely alien to us Finns, at least when it comes to women's role in the society because we're one of the most advanced countries in the world on that department. So there's no reason to pay attention to it.

 

[Jussi]

 

[The Head Crusher]

Oh god it is a Flerken......kill it!

 

[Jussi]

Another screening held last night so more reactions available.

 

[Pilky01]

I liked that funny cat trailer.

With all the talk of 90's music and girl power, I don't want to get my hopes up but I will legit swoon if something like Malibu or Awful by Hole shows up.

 

[S E P H]

Elektra was Fox so it doesn't count.

All this social justice talk is completely alien to us Finns, at least when it comes to women's role in the society because we're one of the most advanced countries in the world on that department. So there's no reason to pay attention to it.

It has nothing to do with a female being cast for one of the more powerful Marvel superheros, but that SJW agenda in movies and games is so damn forced that it ruins the movie or game. Think about the latest Star Wars movie and how the casino planet and the CGI animals had absolutely nothing to do with the original storyline.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

It has nothing to do with a female being cast for one of the more powerful Marvel superheros, but that SJW agenda in movies and games is so damn forced that it ruins the movie or game. Think about the latest Star Wars movie and how the casino planet and the CGI animals had absolutely nothing to do with the original storyline.

"The Empire Strikes Back"? More like "The SJW Strikes Back", amirite?

This supposed SJW agenda is such a gigantic boogeyman and it is kind of strange to see it brought up for virtually every single movie that features a female protagonist.

 

[S E P H]

"The Empire Strikes Back"? More like "The SJW Strikes Back", amirite?

This supposed SJW agenda is such a gigantic boogeyman and it is kind of strange to see it brought up for virtually every single movie that features a female protagonist.

Oh it absolutely exists in movies and games, of course not in every entertainment device, but to deny it as a huge boogeyman is nonsense (more like, where there's smoke there's fire). However, the anti-SJW crowd is becoming just as annoying because as you said, they would call any movie with a female protagonist an SJW agenda movie and that's far from the case in like 90% of movies. I am going to say that all this SJW talk about Captain Marvel is simply fearmongering by the anti-SJW crew. However, I wouldn't put it past Disney to **** it up as they did in some of their recent films and totally bomb it with forced politics. Hopefully, this is not the case because this is the movie I am most looking forward to since Dr. Strange.

 

[Osprey]

This supposed SJW agenda is such a gigantic boogeyman and it is kind of strange to see it brought up for virtually every single movie that features a female protagonist.

The reason is that, virtually every time that a female protagonist is criticized, someone comes along to say or insinuate that the critic just has a problem with strong females. There is definitely a strong agenda out there to try to expose people as sexists. That's no boogeyman. That's not exactly what he was referring to, though, I don't think. He specifically mentioned the casino planet in TLJ and that scene didn't have anything to do with the main protagonist being a female. Something very similar to that release of the racing animals is how L3 releases all of the captive droids in Solo, and that's a film with a male protagonist. SJWing doesn't refer only to pushing females, but any kind of social justice.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I specifically kept away from discussing Star Wars because this thread isn't related to Star Wars.

And yes, it is a boogeyman, but I don't really expect to convince you of it regardless of how many times I try to explain it.

 

[Osprey]

And yes, it is a boogeyman, but I don't really expect to convince you of it regardless of how many times I try to explain it.

I haven't seen you explain it or many of your positions much recently. You've mostly just taken shots at people's arguments, made claims and then found reasons to not explain them. I know that you'll never be convinced, either, but at least I've tried to have a debate. Debate isn't necessarily about convincing the other party. There's value in testing your argument and just helping the other side understand yours, even if, in the end, you agree to disagree.

 

[Blender]

MCU Movies with a male lead:

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America
The Avengers
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
Ant-Man and the Wasp

MCU Movies with a female lead:

Captain Marvel

It's patently absurd that the narrative being thrown around is that Disney is perpetuating some kind of "SJW agenda" with this movie. Disney wants to make money, and making a Captain Marvel movie is an attempt to expand their audience in the same way making a Black Panther movie did. They care about profit, plain and simple.

 

[Kurtz]

MCU Movies with a male lead:

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America
The Avengers
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
Ant-Man and the Wasp

MCU Movies with a female lead:

Captain Marvel

It's patently absurd that the narrative being thrown around is that Disney is perpetuating some kind of "SJW agenda" with this movie. Disney wants to make money, and making a Captain Marvel movie is an attempt to expand their audience in the same way making a Black Panther movie did. They care about profit, plain and simple.

This guy gets it.

It's not about any social cause. It's as it always was, about opportunist capitalism.

The corporation identified the young girl demo as an under-served market for their action hero product, and produced a female superhero.

 

[Osprey]

It's patently absurd that the narrative being thrown around is that Disney is perpetuating some kind of "SJW agenda" with this movie. Disney wants to make money, and making a Captain Marvel movie is an attempt to expand their audience in the same way making a Black Panther movie did. They care about profit, plain and simple.

I haven't been following this movie much, so maybe I missed it, but where are you getting "Disney is perpetuating some kind of 'SJW agenda'" from? I just read through all of the audience "dislikes" on Rotten Tomatoes to see what the issue is and the majority cite Brie Larson's comments while promoting the film as the reason that they won't pay to see it. That doesn't have anything to do with Disney. It's just Brie Larson doing her thing and not doing Disney any favors (or maybe it'll end up helping the box office; who knows).

 

[Blender]

I haven't been following this movie much, so maybe I missed it, but where are you getting "Disney is perpetuating some kind of 'SJW agenda'" from? I just read through all of the audience "dislikes" on Rotten Tomatoes to see what the issue is and the majority cite Brie Larson's comments while promoting the film as the reason that they won't pay to see it. That doesn't have anything to do with Disney. It's just Brie Larson doing her thing and not doing Disney any favors (or maybe it'll end up helping the box office; who knows).

Scroll up in this thread? There are complaints already about this being part of some social agenda rather than what it (and every Disney movie) really is, which is a market tested and metrics based movie aimed at maximizing profits by targeting the widest audience possible.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

MCU Movies with a male lead:

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America
The Avengers
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
Ant-Man and the Wasp

MCU Movies with a female lead:

Captain Marvel

It's patently absurd that the narrative being thrown around is that Disney is perpetuating some kind of "SJW agenda" with this movie. Disney wants to make money, and making a Captain Marvel movie is an attempt to expand their audience in the same way making a Black Panther movie did. They care about profit, plain and simple.

I think they are hoping to tap in to that Wonder Woman cash. It was a good movie. People enjoyed it. Made a truck load.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

This guy gets it.

It's not about any social cause. It's as it always was, about opportunist capitalism.

The corporation identified the young girl demo as an under-served market for their action hero product, and produced a female superhero.

Not all the time.

Sometimes a director/producer doesn't get the memo.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Scroll up in this thread? There are complaints already about this being part of some social agenda rather than what it (and every Disney movie) really is, which is a market tested and metrics based movie aimed at maximizing profits by targeting the widest audience possible.

It was also part of the original comics. They did not just fabricate her.

 

[Jussi]

Annette Bening confirmed on Colbert's show that she's playing....The Supreme Intelligence.

 

[Jack Straw]

Annette Bening confirmed on Colbert's show that she's playing....The Supreme Intelligence.

Annette Bening looks nothing like a giant head with tentacles.

 

[Jussi]

Annette Bening looks nothing like a giant head with tentacles.

I can imagine that being a form more easily acceptable to a human brain (as shown in the clip on the show). Meaning it might be temporary.