Speculation: Caps Hockey General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) -- 2017-18 Regular Season Edition

[hockeykicker]

 

[Calicaps]

Yay! Pay the man.

 

[hockeykicker]

 

[Langway]

One team that hasn't been mentioned for Grubauer but that could be a logical fit is Detroit. Howard is UFA after next season and they have no clear heir apparent type that's close currently. He could be a good fit for their rebuild. They own picks at 30, 33 and 36. They have a couple of prospects in Hronek & Smith that could hold some value. In addition, I'd guess Buffalo, Calgary and a couple of maybes in Colorado and Dallas.

I don't think the Caps are going to want to do the Islanders any favors but if they can get 12 for Grubauer+31 that may be hard to top. Would they value 30+Smith over that? I wouldn't. At the very least, five to six teams with serious interest should allow them to hit the late first, early second type range MacLellan mentioned.

 

[895]

Eh...would've thought that meeting would've happened by now already.

 

[hockeykicker]

Eh...would've thought that meeting would've happened by now already.

could be another meeting. might have met before, now that they know the cap they negotiate for real

 

[hockeykicker]

random thought, would carlson's agent be in dallas if there wasant optimism to get the deal done?

 

[Carlzner]

Carlson is his most important client right now. He'd be a fool not to be in Dallas no matter where the two parties stand.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Cap space is not an issue for the Isles at all. Getting that number one defenseman is more important than worrying about 2m in overpayment.

They can just expose him to Seattle anyway. He'd by far the best player available so I think Seattle would bite too.

When you talk about contracts you have to look beyond one year. The Islanders have a lot of cap room right now. The Islanders are likely signing Tavares to a long term deal north of $10 million, then they have to look to pay Eberle after next year and Barzal in two years, then presumably a number 1 G. Two million dollars is a ton of cap space when you really get down to it. Here we are splitting hairs right now about losing Beagle or DSP and if we had an extra 2 million we'd be set.

To lock up two players for 20 million dollars for 15 years would be a huge problem, 1/4 of your salary cap would be invested in two guys. Also you'd be insane to make huge moves like that and figure you have a bail out when next expansion draft comes. There is no guarantee regarding the health or production of Carlson at that point, let alone what team Seattle is building.

 

[Calicaps]

random thought, would carlson's agent be in dallas if there wasant optimism to get the deal done?

Everyone’s in Dallas.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

random thought, would carlson's agent be in dallas if there wasant optimism to get the deal done?

Carlson's agent wouldn't be doing his due diligence if he wasn't in Dallas...


that said I don't think he's allowed to talk to other teams yet. Seems far more likely that he also represents a prospect.

 

[RandyHolt]

Why does his agent have to be in Dallas. He can just sit back and watch the phones blow up, right? George faxes.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Uh I suppose it’s possible he’s repping others or searching for clients right? Certainly wouldnt hurt to try to get a bidding war going if he can over JC 74....relationships and pressing palms matters.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

It would be tampering for other GM's or teams to inquire about JC, to do it at the draft would be moronic. It far more likely that he represents multiple prospects.

 

[Langway]

He's a big agent for one of the biggest agencies. Of course he's there.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Very easy to talk hypothetically with a GM and avoid tampering.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Very easy to talk hypothetically with a GM and avoid tampering.

It's really not, even hypotheticals are clearly tampering.

Under the current CBA until July 1 all you're generally allowed to express is interest in a guy, like literally going "I'd like to have that guy on my team."

Anything pertaining to cost or term is tampering.

 

[Langway]

10 Thoughts: Bergevin looking to add centre, defenceman for Canadiens - Sportsnet.ca

6. Speaking of the Capitals, it sounds like there’s been quite a bit of interest in Philipp Grubauer. One exec, who admitted interest, said Wednesday that the price could be higher than he thought it would be.

Two outsiders that might make some sense: Chicago and Ottawa.

Chicago has a second first rounder thanks to the Hartman deal at 27. They may need some insurance for Crawford. Ottawa earlier in the article was mentioned as making Craig Anderson available. They have the 22nd pick from the Brassard deal.

 

[McVechkin]

The time to deal grubs is now (and any other cap casualties) You don’t want to start signing the UFAs and have a repeat of mojo last year where the return was cheapened because everyone knew the caps were in cap trouble.

Gmbm better learn from those mistakes and clear the room earlier.

 

[artilector]

If there's indeed significant competition for Grubauer in a pretty narrow range, maybe one of those teams will bite on Orpik as part of the deal, hmm?

 

[895]

If there's indeed significant competition for Grubauer in a pretty narrow range, maybe one of those teams will bite on Orpik as part of the deal, hmm?

Have to wonder about Ottawa. They have to trade Karlsson but it's not like they can tank since they don't have their pick. They might be forced to trade for some cheap but effective assets in order to try to ice a competitive team without Karlsson. Orpik's actual salary is only 4.5m so he makes some sense for them.

Would do Grubauer and Orpik for Pittsburgh's 1st.

 

[Portable Mink]

Trading with Pittsburgh should never ever happen.

I am in a fantasy hockey keeper league with my ex girlfriend and my mates and not once ever have I offered a trade to her.

 

[895]

Trading with Pittsburgh should never ever happen.

I am in a fantasy hockey keeper league with my ex girlfriend and my mates and not once ever have I offered a trade to her.

Ottawa owns Pittsburgh's 1st

 

[Hivemind]

random thought, would carlson's agent be in dallas if there wasant optimism to get the deal done?

Because literally all of the GMs in the league will be there, and he represents at least six other free agents plus Jeff Skinner (who's on the trade block).

 

[Todos a la Calle]

Maybe we can get away with just trading Connolly? I like the scoring depth he provides, but I also think DSP outperformed him in the playoffs, showing he deserves a shot at a bigger role on the team.

Trading Bura would allow more cap space, but Bura has more upside and seems (to me at least) to be a bigger part of the team's fabric. The return for either one would probably be similar.

Capfriendly shows we have $15.7 million in space -- without trading anyone.
Carlson $8.5m + Wilson $4.25m + Kempny $1.5m + DSP $1.5m = $15.75
(not sure if those contracts are close to what it will take, but I hope so)

Add Connolly's $1.5 million to that -- and we can add a bargain bin vet (or two?) or bank cap space.

I'd be reluctant to trade Orpik for chemistry reasons.