Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2021 Regular Season Part 1
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Carlzner
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It’s three games people, I like Vanecek but also why trade Samsonov? He makes $2 mil, just keep him…most teams have worse backups making more money. I’m content with the goaltending situation as it stands
txpd
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Carlzner
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He’s practically been gifted the starters role for the 3rd season in a row now and still can’t seize it.
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VV does well in first 2 games of season
Caps fans - "Well, this means Samsonov must be terrible"
Caps fans - "Well, this means Samsonov must be terrible"
Carlzner
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Uh I guess that's one way to take a sentence completely out of context.VV does well in first 2 games of season
Caps fans - "Well, this means Samsonov must be terrible"
Samsonov has the potential and talent to be an elite goaltender and it is now the 3rd season in a row where he has struggled to win the starter's role for a team with a massive goaltending problem.
It'd be one thing if they were going back and forth like they appear to be doing with HL/CMC, and like they did last season, but it's clearly not that anymore.
txpd
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I would suggest that the insiders with the team didnt gift him the starter gig, but they did let Seattle take Vanecek. Not sure where they would be if they hadnt gotten him back.
txpd
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VV does well in first 2 games of season
Caps fans - "Well, this means Samsonov must be terrible"
Dont you think this says more about Vanecek than about Samsonov? Who has said Sammy is terrible?
Carlzner
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I didn't mean he was literally gifted the job, I meant there was a very clear opportunity for a young goaltender of his caliber to win the job on a cup contender with a massive goaltending hole, and he has failed to do so over 3 seasons now.
Samsonov was an elite prospect. He has not lived up to that billing. That is what I mean by it becoming a yikes situation.
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that should be the talking point….scary thought. Welcome back Copley or Fucale maybe.
VV does well in first 2 games of season
Caps fans - "Well, this means Samsonov must be terrible"
You must be new to this board. Or as a great songwriter once penned "If it wasn't for over reaction, we wouldn't have any reactions".
(Sing that in your head, it flows like AJF's hair)
txpd
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My take is that the team selected Samsonov over Vanecek when they knew who they left unprotected was very likely the choice off their team Seattle would take. I suppose they may have known from the jump they would get him back, but I dont like the odds of that being the case.
My view was that the Caps would give Samsonov every chance to be the starter. I thought that meant that Vanecek would have to wait his turn and Sammy would start the season as the #1. Then he missed a game or two with an injury. I thought when he started the last pre season game that he was in. Apparantly he is not and my guess now is that its Vanecek's job til he opens the door with poor play. I dont know
txpd
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Maybe I am not reading well. What overreaction has their been? You are not surprised that Vanecek is starting the 1st 3 games? Didnt the Caps protect Samsonov to use him that way? Thats what I thought.
Your sense of humor and mine, they are just on different frequencies, but its all good
Do a quick search for "trade" and "yikes" in this thread, you will find some things that made some people think there may be some overreaction going on. But its all fine, we're all just here to talk
txpd
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Your sense of humor and mine, they are just on different frequencies, but its all good
Do a quick search for "trade" and "yikes" in this thread, you will find some things that made some people think there may be some overreaction going on. But its all fine, we're all just here to talk
Yikes is a favorite word of mine. Used it as a response to a post on twitter from Padma Lakshmi this morning
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Yours wasn't the only comment I was responding to (see at least two responses on the previous page as well).
We're not even three games into the season and you're already declaring that not only is the coaching staff not rotating starts, but also that Samsonov has failed to seize the job. Talk about a premature reaction. Let's save the panic for after Sammy has laid an egg in some regular season games instead of freaking out that the coaches are following the hot hand (which VV has shown right now and is what basically everyone thought they would do).
txpd
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It was fashion oriented but it was nice. I am well behaved. Ive worked in the entertainment business too long to misbehave.
I could have messed the timing but that discussion was in full force since first covid incident IIRC
txpd
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I remember that squarely on Kuzy's plate. Not Samsonov. The way I remember that was Sammy needs to grow up. Kuzy knows better. but, ok.
Meanwhile that wouldnt be new to this new season.
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SherVaughn30
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Through training camp, preseason and 2 regular season games, VV is looking poised and sending a message that he deserves the #1 job. For all the hype with Samsonov since he came over from the KHL, he has been a big disappointment. He just doesn't seem to fully want to be here(it appears that way to me). He has had a challenge adjusting to the American culture and his learning/speaking of the English language has been slow. If you can't adopt the culture of the country you are playing professionally in and can't fully grasp speaking/understanding the English language, then you are going to have struggles following what your coach(goalie coach in this case) is trying to teach you.
It's unfortunate. Samsonov has all the tools to be a #1 goalie, but his mental game is lacking. He's not showing enough that he's on track to improve and take that level above VV. I'm still seeing the same issues he had when he came over from Russia.
VV should be paid the $2 million and Samsonov $700k!
It's unfortunate. Samsonov has all the tools to be a #1 goalie, but his mental game is lacking. He's not showing enough that he's on track to improve and take that level above VV. I'm still seeing the same issues he had when he came over from Russia.
VV should be paid the $2 million and Samsonov $700k!
Melkor
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Vanecek has been the better goalie pretty much since the start of both of their careers. That's not saying much considering how badly they sucked last year but says a lot about Samsonov personally. Being a top prospect for like 7-8 years and finding yourself in this situation now with the history of his f*** ups...that boy dumb as hell.
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