Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2020 Offseason Pt. 1

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Why would the Flyers buy out Niskanen? That doesnt make any sense.

For the same reasons we traded him for Gudas To get more cap space

 

[txpd]

For the same reasons we traded him for Gudas To get more cap space

The Caps traded him. Niskanen was 2nd on the Flyers in TOI and is in the last year of his contract. There is no way that Philly couldnt get a nice return for him. Of course as he is the change in the culture there that they needed and I would venture to guess the defacto captain. I would be stunned if the Flyers moved him.

How much would you give Philly to get him back? He was what they were missing this season

 

[Calicaps]

It's well-known that Reirden worked on the PP as an assistant. This speculation seems exactly backward.

So you're crediting TR rather than Forsythe with the PP success of prior years? But it was very good before Reirden too.

 

[txpd]

So you're crediting TR rather than Forsythe with the PP success of prior years? But it was very good before Reirden too.

I think he might be suggesting that the crappy zone entries were Reirden. But then again Forsythe is supposed to be the worst coach ever

 

[Bieronymus Trotz]

So you're crediting TR rather than Forsythe with the PP success of prior years? But it was very good before Reirden too.

I'm saying we know for sure that Reirden was working on the PP for years when it was good, so to conclude that he intervened in the PP work during a time when we have no reason to think he was involved in it and in doing so caused it to get worse requires a bunch of gigantic leaps.

I don't know how much credit either guy deserves, or how much credit Oates deserves. I have no idea whether Forsythe is good at his job or not. It's clear a few different coaches have thought he was worth keeping around.

 

[Calicaps]

I think he might be suggesting that the crappy zone entries were Reirden. But then again Forsythe is supposed to be the worst coach ever

Apparently the opposite of this.

 

[Ridley Simon]

I'm saying we know for sure that Reirden was working on the PP for years when it was good, so to conclude that he intervened in the PP work during a time when we have no reason to think he was involved in it and in doing so caused it to get worse requires a bunch of gigantic leaps.

I don't know how much credit either guy deserves, or how much credit Oates deserves. I have no idea whether Forsythe is good at his job or not. It's clear a few different coaches have thought he was worth keeping around.

Or Patrick did. We just know

 

[895]

Pietrangelo to test UFA. Wow. That Justin Faulk deal was terrible.

You have to think Toronto will go hard for him but they don't have much cap space.

A savvy team could get a good player for cheap from Toronto if they acquire him without sending salary back.

 

[Brian23]

Would you pay Pietrangelo 9 million a year to come in? Part of me says yes. Move Panik and one of Kempny or Jensen and I think it's do able.

 

[txpd]

Would you pay Pietrangelo 9 million a year to come in? Part of me says yes. Move Panik and one of Kempny or Jensen and I think it's do able.

He wouldnt come here. The Caps dont have the ice time with Carlson there

 

[Hivemind]

He wouldnt come here. The Caps dont have the ice time with Carlson there

Any other inside scoops from Pietrangelo's agent?

 

[txpd]

Any other inside scoops from Pietrangelo's agent?

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Would you pay Pietrangelo 9 million a year to come in? Part of me says yes. Move Panik and one of Kempny or Jensen and I think it's do able.

I would because he’s so good but I fear we would turn into the Sharks with to much money invested in 2 #1s

How many guys would we need to dump to get the cap space for him
I’m fine dumping any of the bottom 6 outside of Eller

Parlaying the Holtby savings into a #1 was always the long shot dream

Get TJ Oshie on the phone and have him sell the team

 

[Brian23]

Realistically, the rumor is they were thinking of moving Orlov. Having Piets and Carlson carrying two lines would be better then Orlov and Carlson, but I don't think it does enough for you.

I think they'd be fine money wise, both Carlson and Piets could be moved (probably) if they're true #1s. We actually aren't in the worst spot as far as money goes.

 

[caps4cup]

Pietrangelo to test UFA. Wow. That Justin Faulk deal was terrible.

You have to think Toronto will go hard for him but they don't have much cap space.

A savvy team could get a good player for cheap from Toronto if they acquire him without sending salary back.

Johnsson would be a good middle 6 add. Would fit well with Eller. Would much rather have him aft his salary than Panik at his.

 

[Kalopsia]

Johnsson would be a good middle 6 add. Would fit well with Eller. Would much rather have him aft his salary than Panik at his.

Isn't Johnsson coming off a major knee injury? I'd feel pretty nervous about adding him without any way to know if there's gonna be lingering effects for his skating.

 

[txpd]

Realistically, the rumor is they were thinking of moving Orlov. Having Piets and Carlson carrying two lines would be better then Orlov and Carlson, but I don't think it does enough for you.

I think they'd be fine money wise, both Carlson and Piets could be moved (probably) if they're true #1s. We actually aren't in the worst spot as far as money goes.

Where are there rumors of moving Orlov? As for Pietro. He gets 40% of his points on the pp. Take pptoi away from Carlson after he wins the Norris to make room for a guy he outscored 213 to 147 over the last 3 seasons isnt going to make for a happy member of your core. Given Carlson being there, I am not sure why Pietrangelo signs up to ride 2nd fiddle. Wouldnt he rather go to a team where he was the man?

 

[Ridley Simon]

Capitals are not signing Pietrangelo, as much as I’d love to see it happen.

Redskins have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl then the Capitals donor signing Pietrangelo.

I’m sure I’m 100% wrong here......amirite???

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Capitals are not signing Pietrangelo, as much as I’d love to see it happen.

Redskins have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl then the Capitals donor signing Pietrangelo.

I’m sure I’m 100% wrong here......amirite???

Probably would take a ton of money.
But it sounds like he’s not happy with STL. Testing FA almost always goodbye

 

[trick9]

Koivu is being left go by the Wild. He's really slow these days but still a good defensive center and really good on the faceoff circle. Would be an upgrade on Dowd.

 

[aonb]

Koivu is being left go by the Wild. He's really slow these days but still a good defensive center and really good on the faceoff circle. Would be an upgrade on Dowd.

Love Koivu but he looks like a dog shit these days. Dowd is meh but he can skate at least

 

[TheLegendOfPatPeake]

Hard pass. Dowd has speed and his contract is amazing.

Koivu is being left go by the Wild. He's really slow these days but still a good defensive center and really good on the faceoff circle. Would be an upgrade on Dowd.

 

[Hivemind]

Would have loved Koivu in the past, but he ain’t it anymore.

 

[895]

The opportunity with Pietrangelo hitting UFA is not so much signing him but making a deal with Toronto to take a good player on a big contract for cheap.

Would you do Nylander for Vrana?

 

[Hivemind]

Where are there rumors of moving Orlov? As for Pietro. He gets 40% of his points on the pp. Take pptoi away from Carlson after he wins the Norris to make room for a guy he outscored 213 to 147 over the last 3 seasons isnt going to make for a happy member of your core. Given Carlson being there, I am not sure why Pietrangelo signs up to ride 2nd fiddle. Wouldnt he rather go to a team where he was the man?

I'm convinced you'd argue against having Niedermayer and Pronger, or Rafalski and Lidstrom on the same team because of PP1 ice time distribution.