Don't think it was mentioned but Samsonov is getting the start tomorrow night, first consecutive starts of the year for him if I'm not mistaken.
Looking like another 2018 situation which would be nice to repeat IMO.
Guess you weren’t watching last season when Brett Connolly put up 46 while playing on Eller’s wing. But yeah keep it up with your fantasy world idea that McDavid wouldn’t score more than 40 next to him
Your eyetest is a very bad tool. Brett Connolly didn't score all the 46 points with Lars Eller on the ice. This is exactly the problem. Let me help you with my smart stats.
(1) Brett Connolly scored only 29 0f his 46 points playing with Lars Eller on the ice in 735 TOI minutes (2.36 points per 60 minutes).
(2) Brett Connolly scored other 17 points w/o Lars Eller on the ice in 345 TOI minutes (2.95 points per 60 minutes).
(3) This season Brett Connolly is playing with Vincent Trocheck and scored 22 points in 450 TOI minutes with him (2.93 points per 60 minutes).
(4) Andre Burakovsky scored only 10 0f his 25 points playing with Lars Eller on the ice in 402 TOI minutes (1.49 points per 60 minutes).
(5) Andre Burakovsky scored other 15 points w/o Lars Eller on the ice in 443 TOI minutes (2.03 points per 60 minutes).
(6) This season Andre Burakovsky is playing with Joonas Donskoi and scored 16 points in 332 TOI minutes with him (2.89 points per 60 minutes).
From (1)-(3) we get: Lars Eller is a bad hockey player. From (4)-(6) we get: Lars Eller is a bad hockey player.
(7) Connor McDavid has scored 74 points so far this season.
From (1)-(6) and (7) it is safe to say that playing with Lars Eller, Connor McDavid would have scored 30% less points due to disastrous offensive line chemistry on all Lars Ellers lines. With Lars Eller Connor McDavid would have scored 52 points this season and would be out of top10 NHL point scorers list.
This explains you why Lars Eller is a terrible 3C on a professional NHL team.
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Your eyetest is a very bad tool. Brett Connolly didn't score all the 46 points with Lars Eller on the ice. This is exactly the problem. Let me help you with my smart stats.
(1) Brett Connolly scored only 29 0f his 46 points playing with Lars Eller on the ice in 735 TOI minutes (2.36 points per 60 minutes).
(2) Brett Connolly scored other 17 points w/o Lars Eller on the ice in 345 TOI minutes (2.95 points per 60 minutes).
(3) This season Brett Connolly is playing with Vincent Trocheck and scored 22 points in 450 TOI minutes with him (2.93 points per 60 minutes).
(4) Andre Burakovsky scored only 10 0f his 25 points playing with Lars Eller on the ice in 402 TOI minutes (1.49 points per 60 minutes).
(5) Andre Burakovsky scored other 15 points w/o Lars Eller on the ice in 443 TOI minutes (2.03 points per 60 minutes).
(6) This season Andre Burakovsky is playing with Joonas Donskoi and scored 16 points in 332 TOI minutes with him (2.89 points per 60 minutes).
From (1)-(3) we get: Lars Eller is a bad hockey player. From (4)-(6) we get: Lars Eller is a bad hockey player.
(7) Connor McDavid has scored 74 points so far this season.
From (1)-(6) and (7) it is safe to say that playing with Lars Eller, Connor McDavid would have scored 30% less points due to disastrous offensive line chemistry on all Lars Ellers lines. With Lars Eller Connor McDavid would have scored 52 points this season and would be out of top10 NHL point scorers list.
This explains you why Lars Eller is a terrible 3C on a professional NHL team.
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Why drag this crap over here? *Ugh*
The only thing that is explained here is that you don't know what you are talking about.
We know you are a founding father of the “I hate Lars Eller” club.
My eyes showed me that Lars Eller was on the ice for 18 out of Connolly’s 22 goals. My math tells me that’s 82%. My brain tells me that’s pretty good.Your eyetest is a very bad tool
My eyes showed me that Lars Eller was on the ice for 18 out of Connolly’s 22 goals. My math tells me that’s 82%. My brain tells me that’s pretty good.
My eyes showed me that Lars Eller was on the ice for 18 out of Connolly’s 22 goals. My math tells me that’s 82%. My brain tells me that’s pretty good.
Like I’ve said to you a billion other times. Context matters. I’d be willing to bet that the 2nd line of the Florida Panthers has more favorable matchups than the 3rd line of the Capitals had from last season. Zone starts, quality of competition, etc. Connolly is also playing with Trochek on the Panthers 2nd PP unit.in 2019/20 Connoly scored 12 goals with Trocheck in 450 minutes >>>>>>>> than 18 goals in 735 minutes with Lars.
How about Burakovsky?
All I want to say is that Eller is a very good PK and defensive specialist but he is not good at setting up offensive plays. It is normal that his teammates are scoring 30% points less than playing with him. That's exactly what was going on with Connolly and Burakovsky. The same thing is happening to Panik and Hagelin. Some people here are bashing these two for a bad reason. I see it and I say it. Panik and Hagelin are 2nd line playoff talents. For some here Lars is untouchable because he scores points himself. But it’s a trap that make them unable to see reality: Lars is good but have BIG issues on a SC contender 3C role.I mean Lars is what he is, that’s why he’s a 3C and not a 2.
I know he’s got warts, but he’s a gamer IMO.
Now if someone charted all the 3C’s league wide and he’s a bottom feeder in the majority of important “things”.....I’d be surprised.
Don't think it was mentioned but Samsonov is getting the start tomorrow night, first consecutive starts of the year for him if I'm not mistaken.
Looking like another 2018 situation which would be nice to repeat IMO.
Ok, you don't like stats. But look at Lars plays with more attention. How often he makes personal plays, don't pass the puck, shoots from bad positions. You will see by yourself.Like I’ve said to you a billion other times. Context matters. I’d be willing to bet that the 2nd line of the Florida Panthers has more favorable matchups than the 3rd line of the Capitals had from last season. Zone starts, quality of competition, etc. Connolly is also playing with Trochek on the Panthers 2nd PP unit.
You really think Bura’s struggles last season were because of Eller? The guy didn’t do well playing on any line here and was super streaky. He’s showing his true colors for the Avs now after a hot start where the Avs had to use Bura as a top line player with MacKinnon.
There is no contradiction with the fact that Connor McDavid will score much less points playing with Lars Eller. I think we are all right.Any criticism of Eller which is basically “he possesses the puck too much” flies in the face of modern wisdom. If he possesses the puck maybe we score and they can’t.
I never once said I don’t like stats.Ok, you don't like stats. But look at Lars plays with more attention. How often he makes personal plays, don't pass the puck, shoots from bad positions. You will see by yourself.
Are we trading for Mcdavid and putting him on the 3rd line?There is no contradiction with the fact that Connor McDavid will score much less points playing with Lars Eller. I think we are all right.
#freepanik #freehagelin #tothehellpointswatching
CMM seem to have the same profile as Lars.I never once said I don’t like stats.
In fact, Eller’s stats are telling me that’s he’s on pace to have a career year in points scored despite playing with two guys that have a combined 17 points.
We already have The '4th line McDavid' in Dowd.Are we trading for Mcdavid and putting him on the 3rd line?