Confirmed with Link: Canucks re-sign Troy Stecher - 2 years, 2.325 AAV - avoiding arbitration.

[Mr. Canucklehead]

For those wondering about leverage and how Stecher had it, the answer is arbitration. I believe Ryan Biech (or someone from CanucksArmy) did a solid breakdown of some comparable salary awards and the risk that could pose to the Canucks.

I'm in the camp that feels that even though Stecher doesn't put up lofty numbers, that he's a valuable defenseman for us. He reminds me of Mike Weaver - a bit undersized, but brings a huge compete level, is responsible in his own end, blocks shots, works the PK, and seems like the kind of guy who will be a good leader for this team. At the very worst, I think he's better than most of the defensemen on the squad not named Edler or Tanev.

Happy to have him back, and the cap hit -IMO - is reasonable, especially considering what he likely could have attained via arbitration.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Unfortunately, there is *too much* common sense in your post.

The anti-Benning narrative of course, is that Green hates Hutton and Hutton is an innocent victim that has been pushed aside in favor of the “coach’s pet” Derrick Pouliot. Hutton’s commitment and lack of fitness? Nnnnnnope! No issues whatsoever.

The anti Hutton narrative is that Green hates Benning. And that Benning is innocent and Naslund and Gillis.

Yikes.

He was absolutely awful last year and had zero leverage.

He wasn't actually.

Troy Stecher Was One of The Best Penalty Killing Defensemen in the NHL

Canucks Army Year in Review: Troy Stecher

 

[EpochLink]

Local boy stays, Stetcher has grown on my through out the years.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Seems like a bit much for a small defenseman that couldn’t put up points. I don’t mind Stecher but what leverage did he have to earn himself over 2 mill/year?

That's $2 million in Vancouver dollars remember. Closer to $1.4 anywhere else.

 

[Josepho]

Based on his rookie season he absolutely was worth keeping around but he wasn't exactly good last year and this is a tad excessive.

I find it ridiculous that this team can be interpreted as even remotely resemblant of a winning culture when we seem to just give the entire team raises and pats on the back every year. Zero f***ing accountability. Simply garbage.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Yaaaaaa!!! We now have re signed all of the same 8 guys we had last year. Worst team in the league.... better lock these guys up.

Somehow we got worse and got no draft picks

 

[Aqualung]

 

[Pip]

Definitely a player I'm glad to have back. Payed maybe a tad bit too much but better then losing him for nothing.

He was an RFA, so there was no risk of that

 

[Johnny Canucker]

That's $2 million in Vancouver dollars remember. Closer to $1.4 anywhere else.

Are you a tax lawyer / accountant? Or just tossing out fake numbers?

 

[rypper]

Are you a tax lawyer / accountant? Or just tossing out fake numbers?

I think he's making light of the Benning tax that's applied to most, if not all, our contracts.

 

[Askel]

Are you a tax lawyer / accountant? Or just tossing out fake numbers?

You realize he meant that Benning is overpaying on every contract right.

 

[PM]

I liked stecher but it’s pretty clear his first year success came from being paired with Edler. He’s like a smaller worse version of Yannick Weber who was hated here. A defenseman like him needs to put up points or he’s useless. With that said, I still wanted to keep him for another year or two but I don’t see why he deserves a raise at all. Same defense as last year...

 

[Nuckles]

Ah yes, the signature Benning move to give a sizable multi-year raise to someone who didn't play well for an entire year.

 

[Fire Benning]

Don't really get this he isn't that great and had no leverage.

 

[StreetHawk]

That's $2 million in Vancouver dollars remember. Closer to $1.4 anywhere else.

Is that $1.4 likely what an arbitrator would award? He has arbitration rights unlike someone like virtanen. Canucks likely feel this amount is within what an arbitrator would award him.

 

[Hit the post]

That's $2 million in Vancouver dollars remember. Closer to $1.4 anywhere else.

edit: ok, I get the joke *now*.

 

[StreetHawk]

Don't really get this he isn't that great and had no leverage.

That isn’t correct.

No leverage is someone like virtanen who has no arbitration rights and hasn’t done much in the nhl.

Stecher has arbitration rights, so someone outside the Canucks can decide how much he gets paid, after which the Canucks can opt to walk away from the award which they were unlikely to do over a few hundred grand.

My guess is that stecher camp came in looking for hutton money at around $2.8 while Vancouver countered between $1.8 to $2 million. Opted to settle for $2.3.

 

[bossram]

Better than Edler or Tanev? Please. Those two can carry a pairing. 3rd best, I guess one can make that argument (but the rest excluding Stecher is a pretty sorry lot IMHO).

That said, I don't have a problem with the contract he just signed.

Edler (who I still am and always have been) a fan of, really did have a down season. It could be just accumulation of age + injuries. The perception of Edler was kept afloat because of some powerplay production keeping his counting totals fairly high.

Stecher is a capable defenseman and one we should keep around.

 

[Fire Benning]

The Canucks are now one of two teams in the NHL paying 6 defensemen over 2 million. Other being Pittsburgh.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Are you a tax lawyer / accountant? Or just tossing out fake numbers?

I'm just tossin' out fake numbers

 

[Zombotron]

The Canucks are now one of two teams in the NHL paying 6 defensemen over 2 million. Other being Pittsburgh.

to be the best you gotta PAY 'em like the best

-jim benning

 

[Hit the post]

Edler (who I still am and always have been) a fan of, really did have a down season. It could be just accumulation of age + injuries. The perception of Edler was kept afloat because of some powerplay production keeping his counting totals fairly high.

Stecher is a capable defenseman and one we should keep around.

I realize both are right side D but I'd like to see Stecher carrying a guy like Guds (which Edler did reasonably well) before I'd rank him higher than Edler (even at Edler's present age & downside of his career). But that's just my perception.

 

[VanJack]

Canucks braintrust must be either in a state of denial or completely delusional about the state of their blueline. Everybody from Craig Button on down has pointed out that one of the big reasons the Canucks can't score is that they can't transition the puck out of their own zone. General consensus was there's no way they could bring the same d-men back this season and expect any improvement.

Yet here we are half way through summer, and the same eight guys are back for another go-around. What am I missing here?

 

[StreetHawk]

Canucks braintrust must be either in a state of denial or completely delusional about the state of their blueline. Everybody from Craig Button on down has pointed out that one of the big reasons the Canucks can't score is that they can't transition the puck out of their own zone. General consensus was there's no way they could bring the same d-men back this season and expect any improvement.

Yet here we are half way through summer, and the same eight guys are back for another go-around. What am I missing here?

At some point they have to make a decision on Edler. This is hamhuis part 2 right now. Same age, as both would be ufa 15 years after their draft year.

Extend him this summer or ask to trade him so that he can secure a contract before joining the new team.

Edler doesn’t strike me as guy who wants to move at the TDL.

 

[Hit the post]

At some point they have to make a decision on Edler. This is hamhuis part 2 right now. Same age, as both would be ufa 15 years after their draft year.

Extend him this summer or ask to trade him so that he can secure a contract before joining the new team.

Edler doesn’t strike me as guy who wants to move at the TDL.

....just don't wait until like a few weeks or a month before the trade deadline.