Post-Game Talk: Canucks Def. Penguins | 5-1 | Pearson, Horvat (2), Kuzmenko, & Miller

[quat]

Guys they can waive down, Rathbone and Dries

Lockwood might moving

Like we are all aware of Rathbone's defensive short comings, but letting a player that has improved, albeit over a small sample size, go when he's got so much upside and moves the puck so well seems very short sighted. He could easily play a bottom pairing role, and quarter back either PP. I'd give this player a lot of support and ice time to see what you have before getting rid of him for nothing.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Yeah, no. He's struggled this season and it looks like a lack of mobility and some questionable decision making that's been extending offensive pressure for the opposing team. If it was a matter of being overextended, you'd see some mistakes but generally sound play.

Not the greatest start for OEL this season, and it hasn't been for Quinn Hughes either...Exacerbated by the fact that both players have been playing insane minutes to make up for injuries, absences, and lack of experience on the Canuck D.

Having Myers back, stabilized the D, somewhat..If Bear can play, and when Hughes comes back, hopefully they can shorten OEL's workload.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Apparently both Hughes and Boeser are back for Tuesday's date with the Devils....will be interesting to see who comes out after back-to-back wins. And of course both Bear and Studnicka will be available for duty as well.

Boudreau has a lot of interesting lineup decisions to make in the coming days.

I've heard these players may be back, but not confirmed.

I'd say it would be pretty tough for Boudreau to break up Bo's line (putting Miller with Bo,finally got him off the Schneid )...or Petes line with Kuz/Mik...I would assume that Brock has to work himself into game shape on the 3rd line.

 

[rypper]

Like we are all aware of Rathbone's defensive short comings, but letting a player that has improved, albeit over a small sample size, go when he's got so much upside and moves the puck so well seems very short sighted. He could easily play a bottom pairing role, and quarter back either PP. I'd give this player a lot of support and ice time to see what you have before getting rid of him for nothing.

I kind of feel like Rathbone has legitimized PP2 and made it more of a threat.

If they sent him down it defaults to OEL and I'd rather stick with Rathbone.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

If Bear is in the lineup Monday (and Hughes returns)..who comes out?.....You cannot possibly take out Burroughs IMO

OEL..MYERS
HUGHES..SCHENN
BURROUGHS..BEAR

RATHBONE

 

[McDavid is too whiny]

If Bear is in the lineup Monday (and Hughes returns)..who comes out?.....You cannot possibly take out Burroughs IMO

OEL..MYERS
HUGHES..SCHENN
BURROUGHS..BEAR

RATHBONE

I guarantee you Bear doesn’t play Monday. That’s too soon.

 

[rypper]

Dress 7 defenders or give OEL a "maintenence day."

If we're going by merit.

 

[MS]

Dress 7 defenders or give OEL a "maintenence day."

If we're going by merit.

It remains insane that NHL teams never practice load management on older players like OEL and instead just run them into the ground because hockey culture says you must play every game.

 

[4Twenty]

It remains insane that NHL teams never practice load management on older players like OEL and instead just run them into the ground because hockey culture says you must play every game.

LA does it with Edler.

 

[VanillaCoke]

how'd that work out?

Only 10 bucks pitts-3.5 so nbd, plenty more big losses still to come

 

[mathonwy]

It remains insane that NHL teams never practice load management on older players like OEL and instead just run them into the ground because hockey culture says you must play every game.

Bruce is in a tough spot because management decided to spend money on forwards and the injuries to multiple key dmen.

Everyone wants to manage load until reality hits them in the face.

And OEL asking for a maintenance day while on a 7 game losing streak is just not gonna happen I tell u what.

Hell. Oel shouldn’t even be on this god forsaken team. We actually should still have Chris and Alex. f*** you FAQ.

 

[Nucker101]

I just hope Hughes isn’t rushing back.

Is it wrong that I’m not looking forward to Boeser being back in the lineup?

 

[logan5]

With Boeser, I think he only works if the team is playing well. When he comes back, and things continue to go smoothly, he will start scoring goals. For 5 seasons he has consistently scored at a 30 goal pace. Only 50 (give or take) players in the league are capable of scoring 30, so if he comes back and keeps scoring like he has, he is a positive value asset.

 

[me2]

After that game so were the Pens.

Canucks played great, totally unexpected that they would play better than the night before.

Hate to think that those trades might have inspired the team to greater heights.

Martin "Demko'd" them, the team still gave up a bushel basket of grade A scoring chances, but Grade A wasn't enough to beat Martin.

Still room on the Martin > Demko bus. Hop aboard now before it fills, limited places left

 

[Vector]

If Bear is in the lineup Monday (and Hughes returns)..who comes out?.....You cannot possibly take out Burroughs IMO

OEL..MYERS
HUGHES..SCHENN
BURROUGHS..BEAR

RATHBONE

Monday would be insane considering the game is Tuesdsy.

I guarantee you Bear doesn’t play Monday. That’s too soon.

Exactly!

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Monday would be insane considering the game is Tuesdsy.



Exactly!

Good to know..thx...

 

[MS]

With Boeser, I think he only works if the team is playing well. When he comes back, and things continue to go smoothly, he will start scoring goals. For 5 seasons he has consistently scored at a 30 goal pace. Only 50 (give or take) players in the league are capable of scoring 30, so if he comes back and keeps scoring like he has, he is a positive value asset.

He’s averaged about 15 ES goals/82 since the start of the 19-20 season.

2022 Brock Boeser isn’t a 30-goal scorer and if he isn’t getting PP1 minutes he’ll probably struggle to get to 20.

What he did in the fall of 2017 is basically irrelevant at this point.

 

[Knight53]

Getting a player of Kuzmenko’s calibre for free is a nice feeling. So fun to watch. Smarts and skills for days. With better luck/finishing would easily be point per game. Definitely has 60-70 point potential.

 

[SurferBroChad]

I absolutely DESPISE Aquilini and desperately want new ownership

do any of you actually think the canucks are going to get new ownership?

and you think someone who buys the team is going to be aby different then aqualini?

some of you live in dream world

every owner is going to be some rich douche. wake up

 

[logan5]

He’s averaged about 15 ES goals/82 since the start of the 19-20 season.

2022 Brock Boeser isn’t a 30-goal scorer and if he isn’t getting PP1 minutes he’ll probably struggle to get to 20.

What he did in the fall of 2017 is basically irrelevant at this point.

His even strength production is good overall, taking into consideration some shortened seasons. There isn't enough of a sample size to say that he has declined. Last year was a horrible year for him personally. Just hope he can stay healthy, then he will likely score at his usual 30 goal pace.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Yeah, no. He's struggled this season and it looks like a lack of mobility and some questionable decision making that's been extending offensive pressure for the opposing team. If it was a matter of being overextended, you'd see some mistakes but generally sound play.

Like I said, he hasn't been as good as last year I'm not saying it's only being overextended. But the idea that he's been 'the worst on the team' is just a nonsense take.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

You can if you're elite in other areas like playmaking, defensive positioning, board battles and net front. Unfortunately he's terrible at all of that as well.

This meme is getting tiresome.

I just hope Hughes isn’t rushing back.

Is it wrong that I’m not looking forward to Boeser being back in the lineup?

No its right in line with the narrative on these boards.

Boeser is the worst player ever to wear a nucks jersey and if he died today there would be a multi day parade in Vancouver.

 

[McDavid is too whiny]

every owner is going to be some rich douche. wake up

yet not every rich douche thinks they’re the gm and actively prevents winning but i guess that’s ok cause reasons

 

[CherryToke]

This meme is getting tiresome.

What meme?

 

[MS]

Like I said, he hasn't been as good as last year I'm not saying it's only being overextended. But the idea that he's been 'the worst on the team' is just a nonsense take.

For the first 6 or 7 games, yeah. He was down from last year and not skating well but still okish and not the worst player in the ice by any stretch.

The last two games were woeful. And yeah, he probably was the most problematic player on the ice.

Last night he was asleep at the switch for two breakaways against. Multiple turnovers. Handled the puck like a grenade. Problems in the 3rd started with OEL having maybe the worst shift for any Canuck this season. Skating terribly - like Dekeyser in preseason.

Hopefully he’s tired or in a funk and can play out of it. But the concern over these last couple games is legit. He was really bad.