Post-Game Talk: Canucks def. Golden Knights - 5-4 (OT) (Horvat, Podkolzin, Pettersson, Richardson, Hughes)

[Reverend Mayhem]

Horvat may very well be the best finisher from the bumper in the league.

 

[Canucks LB]

Canucks are now 28-13-8 under Boudreau - .653 point %

Clearly needs to be let go

 

[Peen]

Clearly needs to be let go

I’m in favor of keeping him, but again, once you account for the initial Boudreau bump, the team has been playing at a 3rd in div/wild card type pace - which is really where a lot of people forecasted us to be competing.

You have to be sure that Bruce can extrapolate more from youth considering that’s unquestionably the route they’re going to go this summer.

I get why people like Bruce. The results have been the best since 14/15 with him, but there’s more than just the record here when considering keeping him.

 

[calnuck]

I’m in favor of keeping him, but again, once you account for the initial Boudreau bump, the team has been playing at a 3rd in div/wild card type pace - which is really where a lot of people forecasted us to be competing.

You have to be sure that Bruce can extrapolate more from youth considering that’s unquestionably the route they’re going to go this summer.

I get why people like Bruce. The results have been the best since 14/15 with him, but there’s more than just the record here when considering keeping him.

Idk why people keep discounting and brushing off the winning streak when he was first hired. Teams go on winning streaks all the time, that was no different. Should we just ignore every teams winning streaks to see what they really are?

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Idk why people keep discounting and brushing off the winning streak when he was first hired. Teams go on winning streaks all the time, that was no different. Should we just ignore every teams winning streaks to see what they really are?

Agreed..Rutherford said that a coaching bump usually only lasts a couple of games..The only thing that really killed the momentum we’re all the covid quarantines in January…

Boudreau has done an outstanding job.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Pwnage.

 

[Vector]

Idk why people keep discounting and brushing off the winning streak when he was first hired. Teams go on winning streaks all the time, that was no different. Should we just ignore every teams winning streaks to see what they really are?

You know who also had a winning streak after he was hired?

Geoff Ward

 

[Peen]

Idk why people keep discounting and brushing off the winning streak when he was first hired. Teams go on winning streaks all the time, that was no different. Should we just ignore every teams winning streaks to see what they really are?

It’s just the point I personally think is from where after you can get a fair read on the team.

It is relatively similar to our entire season pace as well.

Like, my rebuttal to that would be that there’s historically always been those initial coaching bumps. Then the bad start with a sour culture as well.

I’m just trying to take the portion I feel is the most representative of the true talent level of the team - which is the period after the bump rather than the entire season or the bump included.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

Management makes different moves if the team is playing at a playoff pace all year as well. Can't simply look at the current roster. Could have made noise if the purge happened when everyone was screaming for it early.

 

[Get North]

Boudreau has a point. This game was disastrous defensively, sure VGK is a great hockey team, but we gave up many odd man rushes and they played so loose with a banged up line-up.

I like Lockwood's speed, Lammikko and Podkolzin's effort, but the defence was left out to dry tonight. Need more structure and calm pace rather than forcing pressure on Vegas. They made us look silly tonight at times especially Shea Theodore.

Giving up a point to a non-playoff team you are chasing... While you had 2 goal lead in the 3rd period.. They really are young and raw considering how jacked up they got about the OT goal.

 

[Canuckle1970]

Yes, we had a 2 goal lead after 2 periods, but did anyone expect a Vegas team of now healthy veterans to lay down and die in the 3rd?

Let's give the Vegas team some credit. They are an uber-competitive team to begin with, and kept themselves in the playoff race when they had a platoon of stars out with injuries. They are never an easy out. They earned that tie tonight.

I'm impressed that we were able to score 10 goals on Vegas in our last 2 outings. And Demko has 31 wins.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

The fact that after a game like that the literal gdt is full of people stiiiiiillll going on and on about Benning has to be indicative of some derangement syndrome at some point.

The sun has risen like 100 times since he left and it seems like some of you have missed some great games.

Playing a team like Vegas that is now healthy, while missing 4 important forwards is pure guts and it was a stressful watch, but what a pleasure.

I hope people can see past OEL's contract, it's not his fault and he's a fabulous defenseman. A pleasure to watch the lanes he chooses to close guys off, the way he protects the puck, and the way he gives it to guys in stride with space.

People who were calling for us to trade Petey like 2 months ago, my God man give your head a shake. The kid is a superstar and he will be better next year. That he's found his stride amidst such an adversarial season is huge.

Horvat goes from having a poor year to being a 30 goal scorer. He, Petey, Hughes, Demko, and Podz are the core that is etched in concrete. After that, there are decisions to make.

Chiasson deserves a lot of credit for the way he's played recently. He's a really good 13th forward, ultimately, but he's been plugged into our top 6 during the most important stretch of the season and he has been really showing well. Has earned himself another 1 way contract though quite likely not with us.

Demko made a number of incredible saves as he always does, but he actually let in a couple of weird ones today. With that said, he's absolutely top 3 in the league.

Miller is looking tired and he's a very mercurial player. He's either the reason you win, or he's contributing the other way. That said, while he made some mental fatigue giveaways that were terrible, he found the reserves to battle to get the puck back or neutralize the space for the opposition after his mistakes. An important player, but I suspect this is his last year here and I support that (assuming he wouldn't give us any kind of sweetheart deal).

The refs giving Vegas those two hooking calls minutes apart late in the 3rd was just...okay, are those going to be penalties in the playoffs? No? Weird, almost like there's no consistency in officiating.

 

[rypper]

Benning is still going to be discussed for years to come because his impact on the team is going to be felt for that long.

You can't really discuss OEL without mentioning him for example.

 

[Soups On]

Benning had a near 10 year reign on this franchise and was a f***ing disaster. His terrible decisions (and yes, good ones too) affect this roster and absolutely should continue to be discussed - said players are still on this team for better or worse. And seriously, just because some posters rip on Benning doesn't mean they've "missed some great games" lmao





On a more related note, No Horvat with something like 20 pts in his last 18 (March 1 - present). Man's about to have his second highest point total of his career after an abysmal first half or so of the year. Props to him.

 

[RussianRacket]

The fact that after a game like that the literal gdt is full of people stiiiiiillll going on and on about Benning has to be indicative of some derangement syndrome at some point.

The sun has risen like 100 times since he left and it seems like some of you have missed some great games.

Playing a team like Vegas that is now healthy, while missing 4 important forwards is pure guts and it was a stressful watch, but what a pleasure.

I hope people can see past OEL's contract, it's not his fault and he's a fabulous defenseman. A pleasure to watch the lanes he chooses to close guys off, the way he protects the puck, and the way he gives it to guys in stride with space.

People who were calling for us to trade Petey like 2 months ago, my God man give your head a shake. The kid is a superstar and he will be better next year. That he's found his stride amidst such an adversarial season is huge.

Horvat goes from having a poor year to being a 30 goal scorer. He, Petey, Hughes, Demko, and Podz are the core that is etched in concrete. After that, there are decisions to make.

Chiasson deserves a lot of credit for the way he's played recently. He's a really good 13th forward, ultimately, but he's been plugged into our top 6 during the most important stretch of the season and he has been really showing well. Has earned himself another 1 way contract though quite likely not with us.

Demko made a number of incredible saves as he always does, but he actually let in a couple of weird ones today. With that said, he's absolutely top 3 in the league.

Miller is looking tired and he's a very mercurial player. He's either the reason you win, or he's contributing the other way. That said, while he made some mental fatigue giveaways that were terrible, he found the reserves to battle to get the puck back or neutralize the space for the opposition after his mistakes. An important player, but I suspect this is his last year here and I support that (assuming he wouldn't give us any kind of sweetheart deal).

The refs giving Vegas those two hooking calls minutes apart late in the 3rd was just...okay, are those going to be penalties in the playoffs? No? Weird, almost like there's no consistency in officiating.

Great post and I agree1

 

[4Twenty]

Folks who praised the man for the better part of his tenure shouldn’t be making give your head a shake posts.

The fact that after a game like that the literal gdt is full of people stiiiiiillll going on and on about Benning has to be indicative of some derangement syndrome at some point.

The sun has risen like 100 times since he left and it seems like some of you have missed some great games.

Playing a team like Vegas that is now healthy, while missing 4 important forwards is pure guts and it was a stressful watch, but what a pleasure.

I hope people can see past OEL's contract, it's not his fault and he's a fabulous defenseman. A pleasure to watch the lanes he chooses to close guys off, the way he protects the puck, and the way he gives it to guys in stride with space.

People who were calling for us to trade Petey like 2 months ago, my God man give your head a shake. The kid is a superstar and he will be better next year. That he's found his stride amidst such an adversarial season is huge.

Horvat goes from having a poor year to being a 30 goal scorer. He, Petey, Hughes, Demko, and Podz are the core that is etched in concrete. After that, there are decisions to make.

Chiasson deserves a lot of credit for the way he's played recently. He's a really good 13th forward, ultimately, but he's been plugged into our top 6 during the most important stretch of the season and he has been really showing well. Has earned himself another 1 way contract though quite likely not with us.

Demko made a number of incredible saves as he always does, but he actually let in a couple of weird ones today. With that said, he's absolutely top 3 in the league.

Miller is looking tired and he's a very mercurial player. He's either the reason you win, or he's contributing the other way. That said, while he made some mental fatigue giveaways that were terrible, he found the reserves to battle to get the puck back or neutralize the space for the opposition after his mistakes. An important player, but I suspect this is his last year here and I support that (assuming he wouldn't give us any kind of sweetheart deal).

The refs giving Vegas those two hooking calls minutes apart late in the 3rd was just...okay, are those going to be penalties in the playoffs? No? Weird, almost like there's no consistency in officiating.

congrats to you for being able to support them through it all.

Many folks will likely need more than a hundred days and a lot more roster turnover. Cool that you can be all in on Benning and just continue it.

I do find the notion that “stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilll being on about it” after 100 days as some unlikely occurrence silly. Not everyone just laps up what this team does but congrats you appear to be that.

Just saying but I saw but Gillis in GDT’s after 1000 days. Might’ve even been you. The irony is hilarious.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Pwnage.

Andrew Walker was a complete asshole for the entirety of the time he spent covering the Canucks. Watching him eat shit over this colossally bad take is just awesome.

 

[Hoglander]

Seeing Hughes shove Eichel aside in front of his own net with the game on the line, has me thinking Eichel will have a rude awakening when it comes to actual playoff hockey.

 

[ziploc]

Seeing Hughes shove Eichel aside in front of his own net with the game on the line, has me thinking Eichel will have a rude awakening when it comes to actual playoff hockey.

To be fair, Hughes is a monster beast. Scott Stevens 2.0.

 

[m9]

Andrew Walker was a complete asshole for the entirety of the time he spent covering the Canucks. Watching him eat shit over this colossally bad take is just awesome.

It wasn't really a bad take though - EP was playing awful leading up to when he said that. It was kind of an obvious take at the time.

Since around then, he has been amazing.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

It wasn't really a bad take though - EP was playing awful leading up to when he said that. It was kind of an obvious take at the time.

Since around then, he has been amazing.

Even when Petey was at his worst this year, he wasn't AHL material. It was a brutal hot take in an attempt to be edgy (Walker to a T) and it blew up in his face when Petey rather predictably rounded back into form.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I never lost faith that EP would find his game and be a star. I've been wrong about plenty of other things but I was 100% sure that he would rebound. What a treat to watch when he is playing at this level.

 

[Regress2TheMeme]

Pettersson with another very strong game. I always assumed he was going to bounce back at some point, but it's so big for this team that he's actually done it. I'm expecting he'll have learned a lot from this experience and be motivated to come into camp prepared to be the star player he is.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I never lost faith that EP would find his game and be a star. I've been wrong about plenty of other things but I was 100% sure that he would rebound. What a treat to watch when he is playing at this level.

Players who think the game as well as he does and want to win as badly as he does don't drop off a cliff at 22. Just a blip.

 

[Tomatoes11]

Idk why people keep discounting and brushing off the winning streak when he was first hired. Teams go on winning streaks all the time, that was no different. Should we just ignore every teams winning streaks to see what they really are?

Well that’s called a variable and yes you do factor those in. You might not bet your farm on a new coach bump but they exist. If you want to be completely safe you can take out the first 4 games instead of the 7 if you want less of a margin for error.

But you then would also have to factor in the state of the team when Boudreau was hired. They have been playing for their playoff lives and with a chip on their shoulders to prove to the new management that they should go all in with this group while probably at least 25 or more of the other 32 teams (ie our opponents that gifted us this .653%) haven’t been in playoff mode or not sweating it if you want to put it that way. So you definitely can’t just give them the .653% Scott free without looking at all the variables. That would be foolish lol.

let’s just say if you follow this team at all and think we are a legit .653% team then you are foolish. Then we would be legit contenders. Lol Tampa is .658.