Value of: Canucks contract(s) to NJ Devils

[Johnsie19]

What is the Value of Sutter say between 50% retained? He is a good leader and decent player with only a yr left. That would save us 2 mil in cap, and I don't think it would require a sweetener. Sutter is worth 2.5 as a players and mentor on a young team.

Any interest from the devils?

 

[vanarchy]

Take our trash, New Jersey. TAKE OUR TRASH.

- OP

 

[devils29]

What is the Value of Sutter say between 50% retained? He is a good leader and decent player with only a yr left. That would save us 2 mil in cap, and I don't think it would require a sweetener. Sutter is worth 2.5 as a players and mentor on a young team.

Any interest from the devils?

No. Like it’s been said cap dumps are going to cost a fortune. Valuable players are getting nothing, no one is going to help out any team just because. If a team is in trouble and needs to dump cap there is no escaping it unharmed

 

[hidek91]

Virtanen Sutter Benn and 2021 4th for Severson and 2022 2nd

While we are there, let's add Zacha for Beagle swap there as well! And let's swap 4th rounders in 2023!

 

[bleedgreen]

Take our trash, New Jersey. TAKE OUR TRASH.

- OP

And if they’re paid to do it, why wouldn’t they?

 

[Cogburn]

One year cap dumps I don't think would affect the Devil's too badly.

Not they should take them as a charity case, but it is an easy way to accrue good talent/assets in this situation without taking a back breaking contract.

 

[Jayan]

Personally I think the Devils are beyond the point where they should be taking bad contracts from other teams. That’s for teams early in a rebuild imo.

Rebuild? I thought Shero was building a contender with Hall, Subban, Hughes and Hirshier... oh wait

 

[SJinNewJersey]

Low hockey IQ. Has all the tools (fastest skater on the Canucks, laser shot, good size and strength), but makes poor decisions frequently.

Sounds like Wood without the laser shot.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Rebuild? I thought Shero was building a contender with Hall, Subban, Hughes and Hirshier... oh wait

 

[member 328930]

What is the Value of Sutter say between 50% retained? He is a good leader and decent player with only a yr left. That would save us 2 mil in cap, and I don't think it would require a sweetener. Sutter is worth 2.5 as a players and mentor on a young team.

Any interest from the devils?

Would NJ take a B prospect for him? A Kole Lind? What would NJ require to take Louie?

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Rebuild? I thought Shero was building a contender with Hall, Subban, Hughes and Hirshier... oh wait

Rebuilding is what happens after you have a decade of success!

Not that id expect a Ranger fan to know about that

Devils are past the point of taking dead cap dumps

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Would NJ take a B prospect for him? A Kole Lind? What would NJ require to take Louie?

You surely have been paying attention to the market for cap dumps, right?

You don't want to know the answer to that.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

One year cap dumps I don't think would affect the Devil's too badly.

Not they should take them as a charity case, but it is an easy way to accrue good talent/assets in this situation without taking a back breaking contract.

We only have about 5-6m to spare after signing RFAs to their likely deals - NJ is saving that space for a Cernak-type, not a Eriksson or Sutter type

 

[_Del_]

We only have about 5-6m to spare after signing RFAs to their likely deals - NJ is saving that space for a Cernak-type, not a Eriksson or Sutter type

Bingo! Teams with cap space are going to be looking for more Schmidt for peanuts deals from teams who are needing to shed cap/salary. They aren't going to line up to pay Erkisson and eat his contract for a mediocre prospect.

 

[member 328930]

You surely have been paying attention to the market for cap dumps, right?

You don't want to know the answer to that.

Whats the price to take Sutter, no retention? Louie?

 

[TBF1972]

Teams are not going to dump a contract without feeling major pain on the prospect or pick side.

The longer Fitzgerald waits, the better off he'll be.

i wouldn't have any issues with keeping the cap space available for the next off-season. i expect even more desparate teams looking to shed unwanted contracts from their pay roll.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I’ll take Virtanen for a 2022 5th

 

[Canuck86]

Take our trash, New Jersey. TAKE OUR TRASH.

- OP

Yes...we need to shed salary, so moving someone out is the only way. People thinking LE will retire, that won't happen he will drag us down to the bitter end.

We need to ship out at least 1 contract, maybe it is Pearson who had a career year last year... recoup a 3rd in 2022 in moving him?

 

[Smitty426]

Would Sutter waive his NTC to come to Jersey? At 31 years old, he's probably not looking to join a rebuilding team like ours.

Sutter, Rathbone, 2021 2nd for cap space works for me.....

With a promise to Sutter to move him elsewhere, Fitzy's got some magic, use it!

 

[Cogburn]

We only have about 5-6m to spare after signing RFAs to their likely deals - NJ is saving that space for a Cernak-type, not a Eriksson or Sutter type

Erikssons contract would be that kind back breaker I'm saying shouldn't be considered.

But if all other RFAs are signed and holes are filled, and all other options are exhausted, taking one year of a Sutteresque (one year, very overpaid but not entirely useless as a player) contract for picks, or prospects, or a young player, is what I'm advocating.

If we had the cap space I'd want Vancouver to take this approach as well.

If Cernak (or a similar RFA) is available for trade or open to an offer sheet, then forget what I'm saying then. That would be a far better investment.

 

[TBF1972]

Would NJ take a B prospect for him? A Kole Lind? What would NJ require to take Louie?

two years of louie would be your next three first round picks without any protection or something equally valuable. preferable in more quality than quantity. and boeser isn't that piece.

 

[Smitty426]

• Definitely.

Woo and Lind, Sven and Sutter for not a bunch, (3rd/4th in '21). Based on what just happened in Vegas/Van. I mean you guys had it drop in your lap, now you know what its like on the other side.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Whats the price to take Sutter, no retention? Louie?

Astronomical, if I'm being honest. And that's just Sutter.

There is no reason for us to take one of your dead-weight contracts when we could conceivably poach Virtanen on the cheap, due to said dead-weight contracts.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

two years of louie would be your next three first round picks without any protection or something equally valuable. preferable in more quality than quantity. and boeser isn't that piece.

Starts with Q and rhymes with Win Hughes.

 

[member 328930]

Astronomical, if I'm being honest. And that's just Sutter.

There is no reason for us to take one of your dead-weight contracts when we could conceivably poach Virtanen on the cheap, due to said dead-weight contracts.

But taking a guy like Sutter, in the final year of his deal.....for Virtanen, that's not enough? What do you think they'd deal Virtanen to you for?

 

[Peter Griffin]

Woo and Lind, Sven and Sutter for not a bunch, (3rd/4th in '21). Based on what just happened in Vegas/Van. I mean you guys had it drop in your lap, now you know what its like on the other side.

Deal.