GDT: Canes visiting in LA vs Kings
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FlyingSquirrels
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Brind'Amour had a hate on for both Skinner and Zykov, which is exactly why neither is on this team anymore. He hates skill and wants to ice a team reminiscent of his glory days.
Hulkacaniac
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I feel like we had a guy who was a right shot and really good down low, but it seems like his name’s been waived from my brain.. hmmm...
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You mean the guy who scored zero goals in 13 games?
Tired of debating which career AHL player is our savior. If we want high end talent up front, we're gonna have to pay for it. Probably more than we would like.
FlyingSquirrels
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With all due respect Hank, Zykov performed admirably last year but was given ZERO chance to succeed this year. He cannot be classified as a career AHL player at this point.
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Or just find someone who is willing to trade a 30+ goalscorer for a 2nd, and some poo.
1) When you trade away 2 of your top 4 most offensively talented players (arguably 2 of your top 3). You are going to have a tough time scoring goals.
2) When your coach overplays grinders and guys he's friends with you're going to have a tough time scoring goals
3) When your fist line consists of a turnover machine, brick hands McGee, and a grinder plug you're going to have a tough time scoring goals
4) when you can't score on a 5-3 pp because that turnover machine and brick hands McGee are out there the whole time you're going to have a tough time scoring goals
Replace Jordan Staal’s offensive minutes with a playmaker that Rod will actually trust and this team scores an extra goal per game. Staal has bottom-10 hands among regular NHLers. Any team playing him 24 minutes a night centering 5v3 opportunities is going to be an offensive wasteland.
But can they grit and grind?
That game was so Canes I am not sure that there isn't anything left to say. Any other posters who come to our boards should be made to watch that game before asking us about anything.
CanesFanBudMan
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Not letting in a softy early on is new. The offense was pretty Canes though
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You are right, but it’s not even about Zykov in particular for me. It’s about misusing players, trying to fit them into round holes instead of trying to play to their strengths. Zykov is a useful player in certain situations, but he was never put in those situations. No, he’s not a well rounded player, not by a long shot. But put him in a position to succeed and that’s a few more goals, a few more successful PPs, we didn’t have before.
I’ve heard every theory for why this team is and has been mediocre. No talent, horrible goaltending, bad coaches. The only thing now is that the goaltending is clearly not the issue. Say what you will about Peters, but the offense was never this bad under him. He may have lost the room, but it was the goaltending that sunk him while he tried every possible lineup combination. Did Peters have enough talent to win (other than goaltending)? Why is it that when we trade E Staal, Lindholm, and Skinner they seem to blow up? Is it because our team stifles talent or because we don’t have enough talent for these guys to play with? With Francis and Peters we had a passive GM and blend-o-matic coach. Now we have an impetuous front office and a coach unwilling to make changes or adapt to his players. How do we know any talented players will even succeed here?
We’re all stuck and sick of asking the same questions year after year. And while so much has changed the one constant is the mediocrity and stubborn nepotism of the organization.
Unsustainable
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Didn’t watch, seen we lost to a hot goalie?
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Yep, the hottest of hot. So fiery hot, blue flame hot, he was so hot.
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Wasn't staal willians aho tt faulk the pp unit that went 1 for 33 in the opening weeks?
Sigurd
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F*** it. Let's just tank for a forward in the top 3 in the 2019 draft. Oh wait, we can't even get a top 5 pick outside of the lottery despite sucking so bad for years. Oops, I forgot we are always a playoff bubble team.
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Can you please clarify what you mean brick hands McGee is? We have lots of options. I'm guessing Jordo?
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I ask myself this a lot.....why does everyone underachieve in a Canes jersey? I thought it was coaching the past years but I should probably eat crow there. I'm starting to believe lots of players don't want to play for this org.
I don't buy that narrative. His audition last season was late in the year when the pressure was off. Yes, he looked impressive and his goal scoring seemed to camouflage the limitations in his overall game. In retrospect, his success could have caused him to be overconfident coming in to this year.
TBH, I thought he looked lazy and disengaged (not the hardest worker in practice either), which earned him healthy scratch status ultimately. I think he was given a chance but blew it not the other way around.
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We have the wrong players. And we keep having the wrong players. And the players we think are the wrong players are actually the right players, but we trade away.
I think good players are like uranium in a nuclear reactor: you need critical mass to make it work. If you don't have critical mass it doesn't work, it doesn't mean the uranium is "broken", just that you don't have enough. And when you don't have enough and it is not working, it is still toxic. We keep trading away guys that aren't working because they are "toxic", but in reality, we need to bring more like them in so it all works.
Plugs are like iron: they always work, but are often covered in rust.
Just now watching the goal replay.
2 minutes left so Rod subs in McGinn to the Wallmark-Martinook line like he likes to do to protect the end of the game. McGinn proceeds to get clowned on a pivot.
Even the tiny adjustments that Rod is willing to make suck. Not saying that McGinn shouldn’t be out there, just mixing lines at the end of the game to protect leads seems intuitively that it could lead to coverage breakdowns.
2 minutes left so Rod subs in McGinn to the Wallmark-Martinook line like he likes to do to protect the end of the game. McGinn proceeds to get clowned on a pivot.
Even the tiny adjustments that Rod is willing to make suck. Not saying that McGinn shouldn’t be out there, just mixing lines at the end of the game to protect leads seems intuitively that it could lead to coverage breakdowns.
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If Zykov is apparently the difference between this team winning and losing, it wasn't a very good team to begin with.
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I mean, if he had done something that normally works with staal, but didn't with wallmark, sure, but it wasn't. It was blown coverage on who he normally covers because he was watching the puck on a set faceoff play. Martinez waited to see if he would look away like a receiver faking a db, and he did.
McGinn is overrated defensively, and that was awful play on his part, but the team didn't score a single goal and lost basically 1-0. In that kind of game, a single play is going to define the entire outcome, never mind the other 59 where i thought mcginn was pretty good.
To throw wally a bone, Williams was fine on the 5 on 3, it was staal who shouldn't have been out there. Rask, wallmrk, have aho take thd draw and send in Hamilton...
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