GDT: Canes visiting in LA vs Kings

[geehaad]

It's their ninth year out of the playoffs, working on their tenth.

I guess? Not sure how downtrodden TOR fans are on a day-to-day basis because their team hasn't won the Cup in 50-some-odd years.

 

[bleedgreen]

Peters was a very good coach. The problem here had nothing to do with coaching. As a group this board gets appropriately frustrated, and finds places to point it at. For some reason Peters got the finger around here, it never really made sense. He had a great system, he didn’t have the horses to execute it. He publicly asked for better players. He didn’t get them.

 

[AD Skinner]

I don't disagree with you bleed, but I do think Peters could have worked a little on his people skills. Publicly calling out players and saying the ones you have aren't good enough can't make for a positive environment, whether he was right or not (and it sure seems like he was). I think especially his first few years here he was able to squeeze some blood from the stone but by last season I think he was getting tuned out and at that point it's better for both parties to move on.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I guess? Not sure how downtrodden TOR fans are on a day-to-day basis because their team hasn't won the Cup in 50-some-odd years.

If we had a +29 goal differential I'd be f***ing delighted too, wouldn't I?

Look, if you're delighted to be a Hurricanes fan right now, fine.

 

[bleedgreen]

I don't disagree with you bleed, but I do think Peters could have worked a little on his people skills. Publicly calling out players and saying the ones you have aren't good enough can't make for a positive environment, whether he was right or not (and it sure seems like he was). I think especially his first few years here he was able to squeeze some blood from the stone but by last season I think he was getting tuned out and at that point it's better for both parties to move on.

I don’t disagree completely. I think he went public the one year we had a ton of extra picks and the media told us we were making trades. I think he probably thought he was safe to say so then, and probably thought he was pumping Rf’s tires a bit because of the incoming moves. Nothing materialized, which I don’t hold against Francis either. It was a stagnant market and no one wanted to play with us.

If Peters had gone more public the first couple of years I would agree he would be wrong to do so. He understood the plan, agreed with it and was on board.

I don’t care remotely what he said to Lack. I don’t care if he calls out guys out. Many of them deserve it. Grow some thicker skin. I don’t know how much he really meant for us to get caught up in all that in that moment anyways.

I don’t really care about the public speaking and player coddling. We have a buddy coach now, one who rewards hard work no matter how ineffective the play is. We’ve all seen it can be equally as bad. I also think this years team coached by Peters would’ve done well, at least as good as we have done. I think we miss some of the structure we had before.

I wish Peters had reconciled a way to play Skinner as a featured player. Two dmen in OT drive me nuts even if he was right. He played Ryan too much because of the same reason Mo played Larose too much. Every coach has his favorites and it’s usually the guy who does exactly what you tell him to do over a guy you’re not sure is on board.

I also thought Ryan put up good stats for a low paying guy and that the real issue was a lack of other better players to play above him.

If we traded Staal I wouldn’t care. Even if the return was bad and it signaled a change for the immediate worse for a longer term good. My last f*** to give on that situation floated away on a gentle breeze. I think three coaches have looked bad because they play him a ton, because they have to and just didn’t get the results they needed out of him. Outside of one month years ago and a few games against the Pens, he’s a moose who doesn’t create offense while being in a position where it’s his job to do it on some level. I can’t see giving that contract to a defensive specialist, even if the numbers are finally getting to the point where it’s not the worst contract in the league anymore. There was a point where his would be in the argument. No matter how solid he is he’s never brought what he was paid to do.