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I don't even have it in me to get mad. Just depressed to be back where we always are. Hope they can find some of the early season magic again, but meh.
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Joe McGrath
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I think the complete aberration that was the first 5 games skewed expectations for a lot of folks here.
They are not a good team. Accept it. Center depth is shit. Goaltending is shit. Special teams are shit. Those are the 3 most important things on a hockey team and they are bad at all of those.
They are not a good team. Accept it. Center depth is shit. Goaltending is shit. Special teams are shit. Those are the 3 most important things on a hockey team and they are bad at all of those.
Why is Jaccob Slavin getting a regular shift on the PP again? He's not integral to zone entries. He's not much of a playmaker or even PP QB. His shot from distance is weak. What do Brind'Amour and co. see in him?
dogbazinho
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I think you have to fix 1 power play unit and work from there. You put Hamilton, Faulk out there with skilled fowards and the 2nd unit you just have Staal, Williams and some other suck on it.
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I think the early season magic was a combo of the other teams being sloppy and the motivation of new coach new team etc... now the other teams have tightened up their games and the motivation has worn off.
The fast and loose ‘system’ they played early in the season only works if everyone is busting their asses and I guess that effort level was unsustainable.
Unfortunately it looks like Rod is reverting to the only system he has known from a coaching perspective (Bill Peters)
Saw a lot of coasting and reaching this game and reguardless of system you are not going to win too many games doing that.
Hopefully they can get something going but they have a lot they need to fix... system, effort, and finish.
Edit: forgot to mention goaltending: need to fix that too. Yikes
dogbazinho
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If we admit we suck. It sort of makes the Hamilton trade worse. I liked the trade at the time because it seemed to make us more immediately competitive by sacrificing some future.
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I mean, Slavin's been the best defenseman, on both sides of the puck, for the past few weeks.
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Right now I'm calling it the Lindholm trade as he appears to be best player in the deal. But again, it's early in the season so who really knows.
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Nah, didn't you read it? He's concerned about winning. As well he should have been. As well we all should be.
My Special Purpose
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I still think Hamilton is, but until Rod Brind'Amour realizes this, he'll be misused and undervalued.
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Even with Hamilton being misused, he has looked pretty unimpressive for most of the season. His skating is pretty bad and he might as well be 5'6'' the way he uses his size (or doesn't use it in this case).
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He's also not as offensively gifted as we'd hoped. Like every other defenseman on the team, his decision making with the puck in the offensive zone usually amounts to "Shoot it directly into an opposing blocker"
"I didn't see them (Vegas) getting to the net much either."
Brind'Amour said that with a straight face.
Brind'Amour said that with a straight face.
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If anybody thinks this is better with Skinner.... please leave the room 
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An actual NHL player in return might have helped. Just saying.If anybody thinks this is better with Skinner.... please leave the room
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Exactly. Trading Skinner was never the issue. He wasn't going to be a good fit in the system RBA wants to play, and we weren't going to pay him what he's going to want when he hits FA. So trading him was the obvious choice.
But we traded him, Lindolm and Hanifin and did nothing to actually improve the team in the process. Didn't acquire a goaltender, nor any offensive talent (still iffy on Ferland). We traded those three to maybe improve our defense? The one aspect of the team that wasn't a huge issue last year?
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Prediction: we gonna end up as a bottom 5 team in the end of the season.
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I watched the highlights (if they could be called that) and what a letdown. Brind'amour is already losing the team because he has no strategy other than point shot/tip/rebound. That and I guess work out harder than the other team. On one version of the EA NHL game I remember the commentary would start making fun of you if you kept trying the same thing over and over and I find myself thinking those same things watching this team- "that's not going to work- they've taken it away!" They need to bite the bullet and bring in some kind of special teams/strategies coach. I'm sure there's someone willing to do it for cheap and they could have any vague title the braintrust wants to give them.
And of course it's not on darling when the team in front of him doesn't score, but how many games does he need to be below average before the team moves on? His body language is terrible- there's no way skaters on this team feel comfortable with him back there when every time he lets that first one in he completely falls apart. Mrazek and mcbackup aren't considerably better but the idea that they would rotate the 3 until a starter emerged doesn't look likely to happen to me. None of them are starter material.
EDIT to expand on that a little, NHL average sv% was .912 last year and around .915 for the past few years. This season we've had 3 games where a hurricanes goalie hit that mark. Even if you lower the mark to .900 that gets you three extras. So in over half of the games so far this year the goaltending has been below average at best, no matter which goalie is out there. Not sure exactly what point I'm trying to make here other than the goaltending is trash, just like we all knew it would be
And of course it's not on darling when the team in front of him doesn't score, but how many games does he need to be below average before the team moves on? His body language is terrible- there's no way skaters on this team feel comfortable with him back there when every time he lets that first one in he completely falls apart. Mrazek and mcbackup aren't considerably better but the idea that they would rotate the 3 until a starter emerged doesn't look likely to happen to me. None of them are starter material.
EDIT to expand on that a little, NHL average sv% was .912 last year and around .915 for the past few years. This season we've had 3 games where a hurricanes goalie hit that mark. Even if you lower the mark to .900 that gets you three extras. So in over half of the games so far this year the goaltending has been below average at best, no matter which goalie is out there. Not sure exactly what point I'm trying to make here other than the goaltending is trash, just like we all knew it would be
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we did not take well our landing on planet earth..
DDRhockey
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Elias lindholm looks good in calgary
dogbazinho
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I'm really curious about Skinner's fit in the try hard system. I mean since he never even got a chance. What's he worst that could have happened, he quit 1 game sooner than everyone else?
Novacane
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Pretty obvious now that Game 1 of the season was the true showing out of this team and the string of four was smoke and mirrors
Oh well, there’s always next season
Oh well, there’s always next season
