Confirmed with Link: Cam Talbot to the MN Wild (3yrs $3.67AAV)

[Spurgeon]

No idea.

Looks like the determination of that is if he’s 25 by June 30th, so thankfully not. I’m just worried about giving him a contract without any NHL experience next offseason. Hopefully BG gets him on a 2-year deal.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Us: #1 in xGA
Them: #18 in xGA

but when they actually give up more goals... that's meaningless

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Holtby Must’ve not been interested in coming here
I guess

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

We’ve been waiting for Kahkonen to make the jump for a while now. If they’re not going to move Stalock to give him a shot as a backup, I’m not sure they see him and an NHL player.

I mean, I'd much rather go Talbot/Kahkonen this year, but I was just considering the rumblings from Russo about him at least starting in Iowa again.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

but when they actually give up more goals... that's meaningless

That seems to be a reflection on a certain position on the ice.

 

[2Pair]

but when they actually give up more goals... that's meaningless

I would guess that the goaltending plays a role in that? Just a hunch though

 

[TaLoN]

but when they actually give up more goals... that's meaningless

Yes, which shows how bad the goaltending was. Calgary had pretty good goaltending, we didn't.

We make a goaltender's job easy, yet Calgary gave up fewer goals.

That's about goaltending.

 

[2Pair]

HFWild- our defense is so good that all we really need is a league average or better goalie and we will be fine.

Also HFWILD- why the hell would Guerin bother to sign a league average or better goaltender?

 

[HotDish]

Ooof. I cant imagine we weren't calling him but my guess is he wasn't interested so we had to shift focus.

My guess was he was aiming for a contender. At this point we have to prove we are a contender.

 

[Bazeek]

HFWild- our defense is so good that all we really need is a league average or better goalie and we will be fine.

Also HFWILD- why the hell would Guerin bother to sign a league average or better goaltender?

Yeah, I'm lost. What did people expect to happen here?

If Holtby and Greiss sign for 2x2 elsewhere this kinda sucks, but it's very much in line with expectations.

 

[TaLoN]

My guess was he was aiming for a contender. At this point we have to prove we are a contender.

Meh, I'm more worried about cap when it comes to goaltenders. I'm thrilled to get a very slightly above avg goaltender for very average cap hit. Staying below $4m aav for your starter is a win.

 

[Circulartheory]

Yeah, I'm lost. What did people expect to happen here?

If Holtby and Greiss sign for 2x2 elsewhere this kinda sucks, but it's very much in line with expectations.

Honestly, its better than my expectations. I didnt realize how good is stat line was last season and its for a digestible contract.

 

[2Pair]

Yeah, I'm lost. What did people expect to happen here?

If Holtby and Greiss sign for 2x2 elsewhere this kinda sucks, but it's very much in line with expectations.

There are legitimate questions about the term and/or salary, but I can't understand anyone being surprised that they signed a goalie like Talbot

 

[mezcal]

I would have much rather had Greiss.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Yes, which shows how bad the goaltending was. Calgary had pretty good goaltending, we didn't.

We make a goaltender's job easy, yet Calgary gave up fewer goals.

That's about goaltending.

no they didn't. Rittich was worse than Stalock and they gave up fewer goals because again, their D is as good as the Wild's if not better. Talbot hadn't been good at all in three years but did ok playing 26 games. Now he's the Wild starter, and it's no lock that he'll be better than Stalock or Kahkonen but he's making more money than either one.

Yes, the Wild needed a goalie upgrade. Not too convinced this is the guy. The money isn't terrible obviously but like with the Johansson trade what purpose does downgrading a little bit serve except to buy some trade deadline flexibility?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

no they didn't. Rittich was worse than Stalock and they gave up fewer goals because again, their D is as good as the Wild's if not better. Talbot hadn't been good at all in three years but did ok playing 26 games. Now he's the Wild starter, and it's no lock that he'll be better than Stalock or Kahkonen but he's making more money than either one.

Yes, the Wild needed a goalie upgrade. Not too convinced this is the guy. The money isn't terrible obviously but like with the Johansson trade what purpose does downgrading a little bit serve except to buy some trade deadline flexibility?

He had a bad 2018-19. That's about it for his career.

 

[Webster]

CapFriendly poll: Was this a good signing? 80% voted no...ugh

Talbot is not that bad.

 

[milesfj]

any chance this deal is in place for the expansion draft?

 

[HotDish]

 

[milesfj]

good grief. khudobin is going to get 3 year 3.5 to stay in dallas
stupid signing of talbot

 

[Saga of the Elk]

He had a bad 2018-19. That's about it for his career.

in 17-18 he had a .908 save percentage in one of the few years he had to actually start as a number one. Put another way, worse than Stalock's this past season.

He's 33. What you see is what you get.

Not a lot of miles, but streaky. As I said, he's a slight upgrade on Stalock, not necessarily one on Kahkonen. And it begs the question of why - what is this team trying to do?

 

[TaLoN]

no they didn't. Rittich was worse than Stalock and they gave up fewer goals because again, their D is as good as the Wild's if not better. Talbot hadn't been good at all in three years but did ok playing 26 games. Now he's the Wild starter, and it's no lock that he'll be better than Stalock or Kahkonen but he's making more money than either one.

Yes, the Wild needed a goalie upgrade. Not too convinced this is the guy. The money isn't terrible obviously but like with the Johansson trade what purpose does downgrading a little bit serve except to buy some trade deadline flexibility?

xGA% says the Wild defense is FAR better than Calgary's defense. The goal differential after that says Calgary's goaltenders were better despite their defense making their job much more difficult.

Stalock had a very easy job compared to the goaltenders in Calgary. The fact that their stats were similar is a slight against Stalock, not a slight against either Calgary goaltender who had much tougher saves to make on a regular basis.

That's how xGA% vs actual goals allowed works. It analyzes the level of work a goaltender is facing.

An avg goaltender is going to have top tier stats behind our defense. We had only below avg goaltending last season.

 

[Circulartheory]

Remember, Alex Stalock was our 1A goalie last season and we made it into the playoffs.
Our 1B weighed us down with a below .9% save percentage. And we still made the playoffs.

Now, Stalock is our 1B because we got a better goalie. Imagine how well the team will be with out having a 1A/1B goalie giving us below .9% save.

Forwards is a different issue but in terms of goalie, it seems like we got a really really good bandage for the next few years.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

in 17-18 he had a .908 save percentage. Put another way, worse than Stalock's this past season.

He's 33. What you see is what you get.

Not a lot of miles, but streaky. As I said, he's a slight upgrade on Stalock, not necessarily one on Kahkonen. And it begs the question of why - what is this team trying to do?

Playing in front of Edmonton. Are you going to say that their defense is better than ours too?

 

[milesfj]

Remember, Alex Stalock was our 1A goalie last season and we made it into the playoffs.
Our 1B weighed us down with a below .9% save percentage. And we still made the playoffs.

Now, Stalock is our 1B because we got a better goalie. Imagine how well the team will be with out having a 1A/1B goalie giving us below .9% save.

Forwards is a different issue but in terms of goalie, it seems like we got a really really good bandage for the next few years.

this season cant count. 3/4 of the teams made it to the playoffs