Not saying you're wrong on everything else, but wasn't it team Sweden that all looked bad because the whole team was sick?
C Isac Lundestrom - Lulea HF, SHL (2018, 23rd, ANA)
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Not saying you're wrong on everything else, but wasn't it team Sweden that all looked bad because the whole team was sick?
His production has always been average at best. Might be still a decent 3rd , 4th liner good at zone entries/possession but not expected to produce much offensively.
No only 5 players were sick which was later in the tournament, the team did look bad though but players like Bemstrom, Brannstrom still had good tournys.
His production in the SHL has not been average at his age, it has been way above average. Most players his age aren't even playing at that level much less producing. That's just wrong.
Well lately Sweden is producing mostly bottom 6 players and role players some of whom were around his production in the SHL. When you look at his ppg I realized its pretty good historically for a u20 player in the league. He could end up better than I expect because of this but the sample size is small. I was talking more his production at lower levels in juniors plus what I saw watching him play in NA and WJC this year that left me with desiring more.
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On par with Zibanejad at same age. Thatd be a great player to get at #23
Yeah i thought the same thing. Seems like a very good prospect i'm gonna keep an eye on him for sure.
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He looked solid in nhl/ahl i thought.... obviously wed love to see him score more but he is a smart player and i thought he showed offensive upside.
Might be to hard towards him but Swedish hockey has been producing top 6 players rather sporadically recently. I don't know what expectations are for Lundestrom though, especially from Duck fans.
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Ducks fans are pretty high on him after how well he played in his time in the NHL. His poise with the puck and defensive play were outstanding for any rookie player, let alone an 18 year old. Also showed good vision and hands, he had a couple nice cross ice passes. Definitely exceeded our boards expectations of him from when he was drafted.
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His production should be compared to other players drafted around his range, not every player. If you compare him to every player, his production is very good, but thats an unproductive comparison.
In what is looking like a weak draft, I don't think its a bad outcome to get a quality 3rd line center who can create some offense with playmaking and skating, along with playing solid defense, but lacks the high end skill to be more than a 30-40 point player per season. He was picked 23rd. Most players picked 23rd are not better than a good 3rd line center.
In what is looking like a weak draft, I don't think its a bad outcome to get a quality 3rd line center who can create some offense with playmaking and skating, along with playing solid defense, but lacks the high end skill to be more than a 30-40 point player per season. He was picked 23rd. Most players picked 23rd are not better than a good 3rd line center.
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This makes it sound like progression is linear which it’s not. Although I do agree with him topping out as a 3C
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I was very impressed with him at times when he played in the SHL playoffs for Luleå. He showed flashes of brilliance and will definitely do better than De La Rose.
Obviously it's very difficult to project if he'll be a top 6 player but everything so far points towards him being atleast a defensively reliable 3C.
My guess is he'll be in the middle 6; spending a lot of time in the 3rd line but not looking too out of place in the 2nd either.
Obviously it's very difficult to project if he'll be a top 6 player but everything so far points towards him being atleast a defensively reliable 3C.
My guess is he'll be in the middle 6; spending a lot of time in the 3rd line but not looking too out of place in the 2nd either.
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I guess... i dont think any of us think he has 1c upside... but 2-3c is in the realm of possibility... id say hes a 3c minimum
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Zibanejad's U20 season: 20 points in 42 games in the NHL, 11 in 23 in the AHL.
Lundeström's U20 season: 2 in 15 in the NHL, 6 in 12 in the AHL, 9 in 17 in the SHL.
Your one year off on Zib. D+1 he bounced around similar to Lundestrom
theslatcher
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Those were both their U20 seasons, so I'm not off by a year when it comes to age. If I said they were their D+1 years I'd be off by a year though like you say, though.
I mean its the matter of 5 months...
For what it`s worth, Isac turned another gear towards the end of the year and kept it going in the playoffs with 2+6 in 10 games.
His first part of the year he bounced around from NHL to AHL to WJC to SHL. He still certainly can improve his offensive games as there are flaws, which is normal to have for a late first round pick in D+1 year.
His first part of the year he bounced around from NHL to AHL to WJC to SHL. He still certainly can improve his offensive games as there are flaws, which is normal to have for a late first round pick in D+1 year.
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theslatcher
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Well, the one you quoted isn't. The one I made before that you could 100% argue is.
Except nobody looks at it as their u20 season, they go by draft year. And their D+1 years are similar.
In 15 years nobody looks back and says "man look at this crop of u20 players back in 2019", they say "look how loaded this 2018 draft is"
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