Confirmed Trade: [BUF/NAS] Jimmy Vesey's Draft Rights for 2016 3rd (#76) Part III

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Ohh sorry, we were talking about different things then. This isn't a "I hate Boston, their players suck" post. It's about realistically needing high scoring line mates for Calder consideration as a forward. If your not putting up 60+ pts, maybe even 70+, as forward, your not likely to get the nod next year. If the rest of the team isn't hitting those numbers, Vesey isn't likely to either. Boston spread the scoring strategy may or may not have its merits. I don't have a strong opinion on it - so if you want to claim they can win a cup that way, by all means, I will not argue it. But if I were Vesey, I would like my odds of getting to 60+ pts next to Kane, who had 106 pts, 46 goals alot more than Krejci, Spooner or Pastrnak who had 43 goal combined.

I am really not trying to besmirch your team. Simply pointing out why it is not THE BEST career decision for Vesey. An idea can have its merits but still fall short of excellence. And in this case, I must say Vesey to Boston, does.

60+ 70+ points?

He does that and he would probably be an all star too and the unanimous choice for the Calder.

Is he even a guy who will score 70+ points at the absolute peak of his career?

I think you may have unrealistic expectations if you think he is going to score at that rate no matter who he plays with.

The best choice for him is to play where he wants to play whether it is Boston or anywhere else, Boston's forward are pretty formidable and score more than at least 80% of the other teams in the league. The Bruins scored more than the Blackhawks last season and 3 goals less than the Penguins.
 

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I still don't get why everyone is clamouring over this mid 3rd round draft choice having an easy run in university.

Now people are projecting 30g-70pts?
If he becomes a solid 3rd or 2nd liner who scores 40 points you will be lucky.

Nothing I have seen from him guarantees success at NHL level.
He "could" turn into a good Donskoi level signing. But again, he might not
 
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It's funny that Chi is flying in to watch him play in a summer league. Heh.
You can watch every shift on yt.
Kids the real deal. Gonna be a good 'un.
So i can see why Chi is putting in all the effort.
Would love him in Pitt.
 
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Hmmmm can't be there actually checking in on their own player as well as any number of other players that are there? It's kinda funny the conclusions that have been jumped to while ignoring a multitude of possibilities and the many other players, coaches, scouts and agents that are also there.
 

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I still don't get why everyone is clamouring over this mid 3rd round draft choice having an easy run in university.

Now people are projecting 30g-70pts?
If he becomes a solid 3rd or 2nd liner who scores 40 points you will be lucky.

Nothing I have seen from him guarantees success at NHL level.
He "could" turn into a good Donskoi level signing. But again, he might not

You on one side everyone as you say on the other

There is your answer
 

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It's funny that Chi is flying in to watch him play in a summer league. Heh.
You can watch every shift on yt.
Kids the real deal. Gonna be a good 'un.
So i can see why Chi is putting in all the effort.
Would love him in Pitt.

They can do nothing but watch him. That would be tampering, so I don't get the "all the effort" comment.
 

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Buffalo
Selling point: Jack Eichel

Eichel and Vesey have been playing together in a summer league in the Boston area, and the Sabres' franchise center can make a solid case for them. After a full teardown and rebuild, Buffalo is ready to become a contender again. Eichel scored 56 points in an impressive rookie season, while former No. 2 overall pick Sam Reinhart scored an under-the-radar 23 goals. Whether it's with the first or second line, Vesey would get a chance to play with elite talent on a team that is likely to compete for a playoff spot this season and a Stanley Cup within the next few years if everything went according to plan.

Drawback: Market size

Buffalo has one of the most rabid fan bases in the NHL. Last summer, fans packed the First Niagara Center for a prospect-camp scrimmage simply because it gave them a chance to see Eichel for the first time. However, the city is far from Hollywood. It is one of the smaller American markets, which may make it difficult to garner national attention.

Boston
Selling point: Hometown

Vesey not only is from the Boston area but also played his college hockey there and says he grew up as a Bruins fan. He told Comcast New England, "To a little bit of an extent I'm a homebody, and I definitely have a big crew of family and friends in the Boston area, so it would be comforting to have them around." Playing in front of the home crowd would not be the only draw to the Bruins. Their top three centers are all talented veterans: Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci and David Backes. Vesey could slot into a top-nine wing spot pretty comfortably with one of those centers by his side.

Drawback: Closing window to win

The Bruins missed the playoffs last season and appear to be on the way down in the Atlantic Division despite signing Backes. They are an aging team, with all three centers over 30 and Zdeno Chara already defying the age curve by performing well at age 39. The Bruins are short on quality defensemen, lost Loui Eriksson in the offseason and got below-standard goaltending last season. Even with Vesey, they could miss the postseason again

Toronto
Selling point: The future

Like the Sabres, the Maple Leafs will be selling the long game. They picked their future No. 1 center Auston Matthews with the No. 1 overall selection in the NHL draft this summer and have several more recent top draft picks in William Nylander and Mitch Marner who are just beginning promising careers. The Leafs also have an impressive group of salesmen in general manager Lou Lamoriello, coach Mike Babcock and president Brendan Shanahan, who are all hockey royalty. If they say Toronto's plan is going to work, it's hard to argue.

Drawback: Pressure

Ask Phil Kessel about the pressure of playing in Toronto. He was heavily scrutinized for the team's disappointments, only to leave and win a Cup with Pittsburgh. If the Maple Leafs do not reach their expectations on the timeline that they have laid out, media and fans will be quick to come down hard on all involved.

NY Rangers
Selling point: Star power

There is just something special about playing in the bright lights of Madison Square Garden. The Rangers are an Original Six team with lots of cachet. They also do not have a true superstar forward. Even though the Blueshirts have terrific forwards like Derek Stepan, Mats Zuccarello and Rick Nash, none of them is a true face of the franchise. Vesey may see an opportunity to become the team's next-biggest star after netminder Henrik Lundqvist.

Drawback: Cup chances

After a first-round exit this past spring, it is hard not to wonder whether the Rangers have missed the Stanley Cup boat. This summer, they traded away arguably their best center from last season in Derick Brassard and lost Keith Yandle in free agency. Plus, Lundqvist may be an elite goalie for only so much longer. They will be competitive, but the Rangers' chances are slimmer than the chances of some other Vesey contenders.

Chicago
Selling point: Stanley Cup(s)

The Blackhawks were eliminated in the first round this past season, but their window has not closed. Patrick Kane won the Hart Trophy as the league's most valuable player, and Artemi Panarin took home the Calder Trophy as the top rookie. Even with some questions on the blue line, the star power is enough to guarantee a playoff spot in Chicago and put the Blackhawks on a short list of Cup favorites. Also, there is an open wing spot next to Marian Hossa and Jonathan Toews with Andrew Shaw landing in Montreal.

Drawback: Cap troubles

One of the most attractive elements to signing Vesey is that he comes on an entry-level contract, meaning that cap-strapped teams can afford to make room for him. However, teams that have a ton of money tied up in big stars on long-term deals like Kane's and Toews' $10.5 million cap hits end up having trouble paying players down the road. The Blackhawks had to trade Brandon Saad to Columbus for cap reasons in 2015. Saad got paid, yes, but not by Chicago. If Vesey is looking for a long-term team, it would not be with a club that might have to move him in two years.

PICK: Chicago
The Blackhawks can basically check off all boxes. They are a Cup contender, they can offer him playing time with Hall of Fame players, and they can give him plenty of spotlight. (Chicago plays 21 times on national TV this season.) The fact that he is allowed to sign only a two-year contract should be incentive to pick a team that can win this season over one that is still growing such as Buffalo or Toronto, in spite of the fact that his long-term home may be elsewhere.


WILD CARDS :

Pittsburgh
The Stanley Cup champions will be a favorite to win again next season, especially because they will return almost the entire lineup. For Vesey, that could be good or bad. He would not be guaranteed a spot with either Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin at even strength or power-play time, and the third line of Nick Bonino, Carl Hagelin and Kessel is unlikely to be broken up. Of course, if Vesey did earn a position next to Crosby or Malkin, we would expect big goal totals.

New Jersey
While most people wouldn't put the Devils' name at the top of the Cup favorites list, general manager Ray Shero's trade for Taylor Hall made New Jersey more attractive. The Devils have enough talent in their forward group with 30-goal scorers Adam Henrique and Kyle Palmieri to offer Vesey a chance to produce points, but there are enough gaps in the lineup that he would have an easy path to a top-six gig.

NY Islanders
The Islanders' arena situation may be unattractive, but they will be competitive. The question for Vesey would be: How much opportunity is available? The Isles have a combination of established NHLers and up-and-coming players like Michael Dal Colle and Ryan Strome. Playing time with superstar John Tavares may be a possibility, but the Isles signed Andrew Ladd to a contract through 2023 during the offseason, and he is likely to fill the slot to Tavares' left.

Los Angeles
The cost of living in Los Angeles might be a drawback for a player on an entry-level deal, but the roster construction looks to be in Vesey's favor. The Kings have three quality right wingers in Marian Gaborik, Tyler Toffoli and Teddy Purcell, but their left-wing situation is much less promising. That would open the door for a top-six spot with either Anze Kopitar or Jeff Carter. Playing with either of those two would be a formula for earning some of that money back on his next deal.

Edmonton
Milan Lucic bluntly said he signed with the Oilers this offseason because of Connor McDavid. While Oilers fans have suffered through the past decade, they are a virtual can't-miss for being a top team in the West over the next decade. The Oilers have three centers in McDavid, Leon Draisaitl and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who are elite playmakers, which should catch the eye of any winger.

PICK: Pittsburgh
Although the Cup champs are in a position where they do not have to promise Vesey anything, there is a good chance he could beat out Bryan Rust or Conor Sheary for playing time and become an instant success alongside Crosby or Malkin. Who could turn that down?
 
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Buffalo
Selling point: Jack Eichel

Eichel and Vesey have been playing together in a summer league in the Boston area, and the Sabres' franchise center can make a solid case for them. After a full teardown and rebuild, Buffalo is ready to become a contender again. Eichel scored 56 points in an impressive rookie season, while former No. 2 overall pick Sam Reinhart scored an under-the-radar 23 goals. Whether it's with the first or second line, Vesey would get a chance to play with elite talent on a team that is likely to compete for a playoff spot this season and a Stanley Cup within the next few years if everything went according to plan.

Drawback: Market size

Buffalo has one of the most rabid fan bases in the NHL. Last summer, fans packed the First Niagara Center for a prospect-camp scrimmage simply because it gave them a chance to see Eichel for the first time. However, the city is far from Hollywood. It is one of the smaller American markets, which may make it difficult to garner national attention.

Boston
Selling point: Hometown

Vesey not only is from the Boston area but also played his college hockey there and says he grew up as a Bruins fan. He told Comcast New England, "To a little bit of an extent I'm a homebody, and I definitely have a big crew of family and friends in the Boston area, so it would be comforting to have them around." Playing in front of the home crowd would not be the only draw to the Bruins. Their top three centers are all talented veterans: Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci and David Backes. Vesey could slot into a top-nine wing spot pretty comfortably with one of those centers by his side.

Drawback: Closing window to win

The Bruins missed the playoffs last season and appear to be on the way down in the Atlantic Division despite signing Backes. They are an aging team, with all three centers over 30 and Zdeno Chara already defying the age curve by performing well at age 39. The Bruins are short on quality defensemen, lost Loui Eriksson in the offseason and got below-standard goaltending last season. Even with Vesey, they could miss the postseason again

Toronto
Selling point: The future

Like the Sabres, the Maple Leafs will be selling the long game. They picked their future No. 1 center Auston Matthews with the No. 1 overall selection in the NHL draft this summer and have several more recent top draft picks in William Nylander and Mitch Marner who are just beginning promising careers. The Leafs also have an impressive group of salesmen in general manager Lou Lamoriello, coach Mike Babcock and president Brendan Shanahan, who are all hockey royalty. If they say Toronto's plan is going to work, it's hard to argue.

Drawback: Pressure

Ask Phil Kessel about the pressure of playing in Toronto. He was heavily scrutinized for the team's disappointments, only to leave and win a Cup with Pittsburgh. If the Maple Leafs do not reach their expectations on the timeline that they have laid out, media and fans will be quick to come down hard on all involved.

NY Rangers
Selling point: Star power

There is just something special about playing in the bright lights of Madison Square Garden. The Rangers are an Original Six team with lots of cachet. They also do not have a true superstar forward. Even though the Blueshirts have terrific forwards like Derek Stepan, Mats Zuccarello and Rick Nash, none of them is a true face of the franchise. Vesey may see an opportunity to become the team's next-biggest star after netminder Henrik Lundqvist.

Drawback: Cup chances

After a first-round exit this past spring, it is hard not to wonder whether the Rangers have missed the Stanley Cup boat. This summer, they traded away arguably their best center from last season in Derick Brassard and lost Keith Yandle in free agency. Plus, Lundqvist may be an elite goalie for only so much longer. They will be competitive, but the Rangers' chances are slimmer than the chances of some other Vesey contenders.

Chicago
Selling point: Stanley Cup(s)

The Blackhawks were eliminated in the first round this past season, but their window has not closed. Patrick Kane won the Hart Trophy as the league's most valuable player, and Artemi Panarin took home the Calder Trophy as the top rookie. Even with some questions on the blue line, the star power is enough to guarantee a playoff spot in Chicago and put the Blackhawks on a short list of Cup favorites. Also, there is an open wing spot next to Marian Hossa and Jonathan Toews with Andrew Shaw landing in Montreal.

Drawback: Cap troubles

One of the most attractive elements to signing Vesey is that he comes on an entry-level contract, meaning that cap-strapped teams can afford to make room for him. However, teams that have a ton of money tied up in big stars on long-term deals like Kane's and Toews' $10.5 million cap hits end up having trouble paying players down the road. The Blackhawks had to trade Brandon Saad to Columbus for cap reasons in 2015. Saad got paid, yes, but not by Chicago. If Vesey is looking for a long-term team, it would not be with a club that might have to move him in two years.

PICK: Chicago
The Blackhawks can basically check off all boxes. They are a Cup contender, they can offer him playing time with Hall of Fame players, and they can give him plenty of spotlight. (Chicago plays 21 times on national TV this season.) The fact that he is allowed to sign only a two-year contract should be incentive to pick a team that can win this season over one that is still growing such as Buffalo or Toronto, in spite of the fact that his long-term home may be elsewhere.


WILD CARDS :

Pittsburgh
The Stanley Cup champions will be a favorite to win again next season, especially because they will return almost the entire lineup. For Vesey, that could be good or bad. He would not be guaranteed a spot with either Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin at even strength or power-play time, and the third line of Nick Bonino, Carl Hagelin and Kessel is unlikely to be broken up. Of course, if Vesey did earn a position next to Crosby or Malkin, we would expect big goal totals.

New Jersey
While most people wouldn't put the Devils' name at the top of the Cup favorites list, general manager Ray Shero's trade for Taylor Hall made New Jersey more attractive. The Devils have enough talent in their forward group with 30-goal scorers Adam Henrique and Kyle Palmieri to offer Vesey a chance to produce points, but there are enough gaps in the lineup that he would have an easy path to a top-six gig.

NY Islanders
The Islanders' arena situation may be unattractive, but they will be competitive. The question for Vesey would be: How much opportunity is available? The Isles have a combination of established NHLers and up-and-coming players like Michael Dal Colle and Ryan Strome. Playing time with superstar John Tavares may be a possibility, but the Isles signed Andrew Ladd to a contract through 2023 during the offseason, and he is likely to fill the slot to Tavares' left.

Los Angeles
The cost of living in Los Angeles might be a drawback for a player on an entry-level deal, but the roster construction looks to be in Vesey's favor. The Kings have three quality right wingers in Marian Gaborik, Tyler Toffoli and Teddy Purcell, but their left-wing situation is much less promising. That would open the door for a top-six spot with either Anze Kopitar or Jeff Carter. Playing with either of those two would be a formula for earning some of that money back on his next deal.

Edmonton
Milan Lucic bluntly said he signed with the Oilers this offseason because of Connor McDavid. While Oilers fans have suffered through the past decade, they are a virtual can't-miss for being a top team in the West over the next decade. The Oilers have three centers in McDavid, Leon Draisaitl and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who are elite playmakers, which should catch the eye of any winger.

PICK: Pittsburgh
Although the Cup champs are in a position where they do not have to promise Vesey anything, there is a good chance he could beat out Bryan Rust or Conor Sheary for playing time and become an instant success alongside Crosby or Malkin. Who could turn that down?

Thanks. Does he have a reasoning or source, to put the Rangers on Vesey's shortlist though?
 

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Buffalo
Selling point: Jack Eichel

Eichel and Vesey have been playing together in a summer league in the Boston area, and the Sabres' franchise center can make a solid case for them. After a full teardown and rebuild, Buffalo is ready to become a contender again. Eichel scored 56 points in an impressive rookie season, while former No. 2 overall pick Sam Reinhart scored an under-the-radar 23 goals. Whether it's with the first or second line, Vesey would get a chance to play with elite talent on a team that is likely to compete for a playoff spot this season and a Stanley Cup within the next few years if everything went according to plan.

Drawback: Market size

Buffalo has one of the most rabid fan bases in the NHL. Last summer, fans packed the First Niagara Center for a prospect-camp scrimmage simply because it gave them a chance to see Eichel for the first time. However, the city is far from Hollywood. It is one of the smaller American markets, which may make it difficult to garner national attention.

Boston
Selling point: Hometown

Vesey not only is from the Boston area but also played his college hockey there and says he grew up as a Bruins fan. He told Comcast New England, "To a little bit of an extent I'm a homebody, and I definitely have a big crew of family and friends in the Boston area, so it would be comforting to have them around." Playing in front of the home crowd would not be the only draw to the Bruins. Their top three centers are all talented veterans: Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci and David Backes. Vesey could slot into a top-nine wing spot pretty comfortably with one of those centers by his side.

Drawback: Closing window to win

The Bruins missed the playoffs last season and appear to be on the way down in the Atlantic Division despite signing Backes. They are an aging team, with all three centers over 30 and Zdeno Chara already defying the age curve by performing well at age 39. The Bruins are short on quality defensemen, lost Loui Eriksson in the offseason and got below-standard goaltending last season. Even with Vesey, they could miss the postseason again

Toronto
Selling point: The future

Like the Sabres, the Maple Leafs will be selling the long game. They picked their future No. 1 center Auston Matthews with the No. 1 overall selection in the NHL draft this summer and have several more recent top draft picks in William Nylander and Mitch Marner who are just beginning promising careers. The Leafs also have an impressive group of salesmen in general manager Lou Lamoriello, coach Mike Babcock and president Brendan Shanahan, who are all hockey royalty. If they say Toronto's plan is going to work, it's hard to argue.

Drawback: Pressure

Ask Phil Kessel about the pressure of playing in Toronto. He was heavily scrutinized for the team's disappointments, only to leave and win a Cup with Pittsburgh. If the Maple Leafs do not reach their expectations on the timeline that they have laid out, media and fans will be quick to come down hard on all involved.

NY Rangers
Selling point: Star power

There is just something special about playing in the bright lights of Madison Square Garden. The Rangers are an Original Six team with lots of cachet. They also do not have a true superstar forward. Even though the Blueshirts have terrific forwards like Derek Stepan, Mats Zuccarello and Rick Nash, none of them is a true face of the franchise. Vesey may see an opportunity to become the team's next-biggest star after netminder Henrik Lundqvist.

Drawback: Cup chances

After a first-round exit this past spring, it is hard not to wonder whether the Rangers have missed the Stanley Cup boat. This summer, they traded away arguably their best center from last season in Derick Brassard and lost Keith Yandle in free agency. Plus, Lundqvist may be an elite goalie for only so much longer. They will be competitive, but the Rangers' chances are slimmer than the chances of some other Vesey contenders.

Chicago
Selling point: Stanley Cup(s)

The Blackhawks were eliminated in the first round this past season, but their window has not closed. Patrick Kane won the Hart Trophy as the league's most valuable player, and Artemi Panarin took home the Calder Trophy as the top rookie. Even with some questions on the blue line, the star power is enough to guarantee a playoff spot in Chicago and put the Blackhawks on a short list of Cup favorites. Also, there is an open wing spot next to Marian Hossa and Jonathan Toews with Andrew Shaw landing in Montreal.

Drawback: Cap troubles

One of the most attractive elements to signing Vesey is that he comes on an entry-level contract, meaning that cap-strapped teams can afford to make room for him. However, teams that have a ton of money tied up in big stars on long-term deals like Kane's and Toews' $10.5 million cap hits end up having trouble paying players down the road. The Blackhawks had to trade Brandon Saad to Columbus for cap reasons in 2015. Saad got paid, yes, but not by Chicago. If Vesey is looking for a long-term team, it would not be with a club that might have to move him in two years.

PICK: Chicago
The Blackhawks can basically check off all boxes. They are a Cup contender, they can offer him playing time with Hall of Fame players, and they can give him plenty of spotlight. (Chicago plays 21 times on national TV this season.) The fact that he is allowed to sign only a two-year contract should be incentive to pick a team that can win this season over one that is still growing such as Buffalo or Toronto, in spite of the fact that his long-term home may be elsewhere.


WILD CARDS :

Pittsburgh
The Stanley Cup champions will be a favorite to win again next season, especially because they will return almost the entire lineup. For Vesey, that could be good or bad. He would not be guaranteed a spot with either Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin at even strength or power-play time, and the third line of Nick Bonino, Carl Hagelin and Kessel is unlikely to be broken up. Of course, if Vesey did earn a position next to Crosby or Malkin, we would expect big goal totals.

New Jersey
While most people wouldn't put the Devils' name at the top of the Cup favorites list, general manager Ray Shero's trade for Taylor Hall made New Jersey more attractive. The Devils have enough talent in their forward group with 30-goal scorers Adam Henrique and Kyle Palmieri to offer Vesey a chance to produce points, but there are enough gaps in the lineup that he would have an easy path to a top-six gig.

NY Islanders
The Islanders' arena situation may be unattractive, but they will be competitive. The question for Vesey would be: How much opportunity is available? The Isles have a combination of established NHLers and up-and-coming players like Michael Dal Colle and Ryan Strome. Playing time with superstar John Tavares may be a possibility, but the Isles signed Andrew Ladd to a contract through 2023 during the offseason, and he is likely to fill the slot to Tavares' left.

Los Angeles
The cost of living in Los Angeles might be a drawback for a player on an entry-level deal, but the roster construction looks to be in Vesey's favor. The Kings have three quality right wingers in Marian Gaborik, Tyler Toffoli and Teddy Purcell, but their left-wing situation is much less promising. That would open the door for a top-six spot with either Anze Kopitar or Jeff Carter. Playing with either of those two would be a formula for earning some of that money back on his next deal.

Edmonton
Milan Lucic bluntly said he signed with the Oilers this offseason because of Connor McDavid. While Oilers fans have suffered through the past decade, they are a virtual can't-miss for being a top team in the West over the next decade. The Oilers have three centers in McDavid, Leon Draisaitl and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who are elite playmakers, which should catch the eye of any winger.

PICK: Pittsburgh
Although the Cup champs are in a position where they do not have to promise Vesey anything, there is a good chance he could beat out Bryan Rust or Conor Sheary for playing time and become an instant success alongside Crosby or Malkin. Who could turn that down?

why would anybody read anything this long from that terrible site lol
 

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Thanks. Does he have a reasoning or source, to put the Rangers on Vesey's shortlist though?

Vesey's agent is very close with both Gorton and Drury, and Vesey is great friends to Kevin Hayes.

If "being able to play close to home" is a valid reason for the Bruins to be on the short list, then the Rangers have valid reasons to be on the shortlist as well.

Not sure if it's his own speculation or if the writer has his own sources.
 

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Still can't believe that people think the Bruins future isn't bright. It actually makes me laugh.

After the WJC this year everybody will be talking about Bruins prospects.
 

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If he's not that good then why would Bruins fans lose their minds?


Imo its between Boston and Chigacco at, with the small chance of a very random team out of left field

Buffalo is only considered because they own his negotiating rights which was never his decision and if anything it shows he likely won't sign there because he likely would have already, and because Eichel plays there, but I have it on good authority that while Eichel likes playing with the guys on the Sabres and for the coach, he hates living in Buffalo. Doesn't spell well for the future of him staying or what he would suggest to his friend Jimmy in confidence. Not to mention if we're going to use the friend angle, Vesey has more friends in the Bruins organization

Most likely Vesey and his agent humor Buffalo but focus on the Bruins and Hawks and a team no one has mentioned yet. Boston will have to ensure him they'll provide a situation he can grow and put up points in and that the organization is headed in a good direction. Chigacco will have to convince him playing with toews is and in Chigacco is superior enough to playing with Krejci or Bergeron to move to a different time zone with little familiarity


Likely Vesey scores 20/20 his first season wherever he goes and goes on to be a 30-40 goal scorer

Sure you do.
 

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You on one side everyone as you say on the other

There is your answer

According to sites, analysts and hockey minds on sports shows.....His absolute ceiling if he hits his potential is 2nd line forward. His likelyhood projection is two way 3rd line forward.

Why people are throwing projections like 30 goals, 70 points is where I blur. 30 goals and 70 points makes you a top 15 points getter superstar, 30 goals top 20 superstar in today's NHL.

People on this site are projecting him to score like a Tavares or Stamkos, when the analysts and big name news coverage experts like Bob Mackenzie are projecting him to score like Andrew Shaw.

I am trying to figure out the reasoning.
 

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According to sites, analysts and hockey minds on sports shows.....His absolute ceiling if he hits his potential is 2nd line forward. His likelyhood projection is two way 3rd line forward.

Why people are throwing projections like 30 goals, 70 points is where I blur. 30 goals and 70 points makes you a top 15 points getter superstar, 30 goals top 20 superstar in today's NHL.

People on this site are projecting him to score like a Tavares or Stamkos, when the analysts and big name news coverage experts like Bob Mackenzie are projecting him to score like Andrew Shaw.

I am trying to figure out the reasoning.

I guess we will all just have to wait and see. I've seen him over the years. He lives 10 minutes from me and my kid also played same rink he did but girls side. I only saw him twice though this year live but we get Harvard games often enough on the weekends so I will check as much to watch Donato, Sherman, and a local kid Colin Blackwell. Been playing my entire life and going on my 33 or 34th year as a Bruins season ticket holder. My folks had seats since the late 40's. I been wrong before but I'm confident in my ability no disrespect to Bob, but I would go 25+ top 6.

Maybe he will suck I've read that. Put me down though first 5 year average 25/60.

I don't know about 30 and 80 but I would not be surprised if he puts up Nathan Horton numbers - and he was not a super star in my world unless we are talking overtime and the year is 2011
 
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    Staked: $1,050.00
    Event closes
    • Updated:
  • Finland vs Czechia
    Finland vs Czechia
    Wagers: 1
    Staked: $200.00
    Event closes
    • Updated:
  • Augsburg vs VfB Stuttgart
    Augsburg vs VfB Stuttgart
    Wagers: 1
    Staked: $500.00
    Event closes
    • Updated:
  • Frosinone vs Inter Milan
    Frosinone vs Inter Milan
    Wagers: 1
    Staked: $150.00
    Event closes
    • Updated:
  • Alavés vs Girona
    Alavés vs Girona
    Wagers: 1
    Staked: $22.00
    Event closes
    • Updated:

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