Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals XIV- Mod in OP
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Number8
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If Sweeney decides he has to move Cehlarik (don’t do it Donny), somehow I want T Toffoli on Krejci’s right wing when all the dust settles. $4.6 Cap is not cheap but not terribe for a 25 goal scorer. Young and signed for two more years. LA sucks and needs to rebuild
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If the Bruins add Schenn and a winger, I think the they can make some noise in the playoffs this year.
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You do realize that Toffoli has just one more goal this season (7) than does Donato, Kuraly, and Wagner (6) despite having played significantly more minutes than all three guys (836 vs. 616/570/425).
So he's not scoring goals at his normal rate. He's not fast. He's not physical.
Pass.
"I know its only 2 games but Cehlarik fits like a glove on Krejci's line. Great hands, big body and wins a ton of puck battles along the wall. They have been the best Bruin line the last 2 games. I said it when Cehlarik was called up that if he plays well with Krejci and Debrusk than the Bruins really only need to make one trade and that is for a 3C.
In no particular order all of these players are presumed available. Bruins have the pieces to acquire any one of them.
Schenn
Duchene
Eric Staal (cost a lot less than Schenn)
Pageau
Kevin Hayes
Brassard"
Sign me up for Staal. I doubt he's available though with the Wild currently in the playoff picture.
In no particular order all of these players are presumed available. Bruins have the pieces to acquire any one of them.
Schenn
Duchene
Eric Staal (cost a lot less than Schenn)
Pageau
Kevin Hayes
Brassard"
Sign me up for Staal. I doubt he's available though with the Wild currently in the playoff picture.
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I agree he’s down. But that whole LA team is a disaster. No denying he’s got a solid track record of mid 20 goal seasons.
I’m in camp that we keep Cehlarik on Krejci’s line and ride it with fingers crossed. Spend assets on 3C.
HOWEVER, if Cehlarik doesn’t work long term or we move him you have to get a goal scorer on that line. Toffoli would be an add to what we have. He’s not Donato (at this stage), Kuraly, or Wagner and you know it. You know it full well, actually.
I'm choosing to view Cehlarik differently than most here.
I'll choose to trust the Bruins on this one and assume he's been deserving of his time in Providence. If all of a sudden another team wants him as a key piece of a deal for a player like Schenn, I jump at that. If they prefer him over Heinen or Bjork or whomever, I love it. Gonna go on the assumption that the players who've been playing at this level all year and longer over Cehlarik are more valuable players to us. A nice two-game showing is great - good for the kid. And I liked how he looked with Krejci in the past. But if we can parlay that into adding a talent like Schenn by only adding Gryz and some minor piece, where do I sign?
Again, I like Gryz a lot and I'm sure the other pieces we'd have to give in this mythical deal that will never happen are good young pieces, but give me the best player in a trade. It's time this GM put his stamp on a team and line them up for some real success in the short-term. I'm not gonna gripe if he gives up a kid who has looked good THIS WEEK.
I'll choose to trust the Bruins on this one and assume he's been deserving of his time in Providence. If all of a sudden another team wants him as a key piece of a deal for a player like Schenn, I jump at that. If they prefer him over Heinen or Bjork or whomever, I love it. Gonna go on the assumption that the players who've been playing at this level all year and longer over Cehlarik are more valuable players to us. A nice two-game showing is great - good for the kid. And I liked how he looked with Krejci in the past. But if we can parlay that into adding a talent like Schenn by only adding Gryz and some minor piece, where do I sign?
Again, I like Gryz a lot and I'm sure the other pieces we'd have to give in this mythical deal that will never happen are good young pieces, but give me the best player in a trade. It's time this GM put his stamp on a team and line them up for some real success in the short-term. I'm not gonna gripe if he gives up a kid who has looked good THIS WEEK.
The don godfather
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Noise doesn't equate to cup. Just hold on our super prospects . Peter c is now one of them only 23 but looks like he's been playing in the nhl for 10 yrs. He's been a force on every shift. We have our schenn and maybe better .
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let's say that happens & we play Schenn on the 3rd line instead of JFK. Now you still need a winger for Krejci & still have Donato in the lineup when frankly he probably shouldn't be. I guess Nordstrom will replace him eventually, but I still don't think this addresses our biggest need.
I'm with @GloryDaze4877 in thinking they need to figure out how to make this work without giving up Heinen but I also think they can't give up Cehlarik because at the moment he's the only in-house option who has shown anything on that line even if it's a small sample size.
To me if you're adding Schenn he needs to play center and makes JFK redundant so I would be insisting that he's a piece going the other way.
My perfect world scenario would be if they can add Schenn & Ferland with the only roster players going out being Grizz & JFK. Totally pie in the sky stuff though as I don't see them making two big moves like that.
Oates2Neely
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Still can’t believe the number of people here ready to move Krug out.
He’s not Ray Bourque defensively, but he’s sufficient back there. However he is arguably one of the top offensive dmen in the NHL right now. He’s involved offensively every game.
If he is moved, I predict we will all soon be whining about the lack of an offensive dman. Oh how quickly we forget.
And nobody knows what he will ask for on his next contract. Enough with the predictions that he will ask for 7-8m per.
He’s not Ray Bourque defensively, but he’s sufficient back there. However he is arguably one of the top offensive dmen in the NHL right now. He’s involved offensively every game.
If he is moved, I predict we will all soon be whining about the lack of an offensive dman. Oh how quickly we forget.
And nobody knows what he will ask for on his next contract. Enough with the predictions that he will ask for 7-8m per.
I don't think they'd play Schenn as #3C. I think they'd play him on 2RW and solidify a potent 2nd line.
At that point we don't love the third line obviously, but this lineup could do just fine:
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Schenn-Krejci-DeBrusk
Heinne/Donato/Nordstrom-JFK-Nordstrom/Backes
Kuraly-Acciari-Wagner
Then if you get to the deadline and you can add a rental piece for 2RW (Williams, Simmonds, etc.), then you can slide Schenn to #3c and roll three deep centers.
But as of today I think the best spot for him is 2W. And honestly, those top two lines are terrific.
That line was by far the best line on ice. Jake was looking better as well. The third line needs to be fixed and I'm not giving up Gryz to do it.
BigBadBruins7708
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agreed.
you trade Krug and the very next day we're back to the multiple threads about "why does our PP suck" and "why cant we score on the PP"
Okay then what should we assume he'll ask for? If you were him, what would you ask for?
This is a board so we won't know exactly what his ask will be, but it seems to me like assuming anything other than recent league average for a dman with his stats is foolish. Can't assume a hometown discount and can't assume he's looking to set a new market. So who's the best comp and what's the AAV?
BruinDust
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I agree he’s down. But that whole LA team is a disaster. No denying he’s got a solid track record of mid 20 goal seasons.
I’m in camp that we keep Cehlarik on Krejci’s line and ride it with fingers crossed. Spend assets on 3C.
HOWEVER, if Cehlarik doesn’t work long term or we move him you have to get a goal scorer on that line. Toffoli would be an add to what we have. He’s not Donato (at this stage), Kuraly, or Wagner and you know it. You know it full well, actually.
He's not, I agree, just putting it into context.
I just don't know with Toffoli. He's a shooter who doesn't really create his own looks, which on a bad team like LA doesn't help his cause.
His strength is finding soft spots on the ice to use his shot off the cycle. He's not good at all scoring of the rush.
On one hand, he may be a great fit for Krejci, who loves the cycle game. Cehlarik - Krejci - Toffoli could be gang-busters actually.
On the other hand, he doesn't help the Bruins rush attack (which is a big weakness of this team IMO). Doesn't make them better on the forecheck (he's not fast nor physical).
It's a gamble, depends on the price I guess. The more I think about it I'm not totally against it.
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Negatives tend to outweigh positives on an even scale in peoples minds.
Everyone loves Krugs offense, but when he gets beaten defensively people immediate want him moved.
I think his minutes need to be adjusted to he is strategically deployed. He is playing minutes he should not right now.
Agree to disagree.
In no world should they be making moves or turning down moves based on two damn games. Hell David Backes scored last night...do we want to keep him too now?
Don't get me wrong I'm happy Cehlarik played well and happy they look good. But is the second line "fixed" all of a sudden based on two games? Hell no. If StL wants Cehlarik right now in a deal for Schenn, he's not holding it up. If nothing happens, which is obviously most likely if not certain, then we'll get another 40 days or so to see if Cehlarik can sustain.
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if the goal is to get a reliable 2nd line RW then Schenn shouldn't be the target IMO. He can play wing but by all accounts he's a much better fit at center.
The don godfather
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I bet my left ... That cehlerik can sustain. He has matured well in providence put some solid numbers and in 2 games I know 2 he knows exactly where to be and has instant chemistry with David . Getting schenn and giving up cehlerik doesn't look much of a bump to me now. Plus cehlerik can be with Bruins for multiple years instead of a one year and done with schenn .
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I'm fine with the Bruins keeping Cehlarik. I assume you are talking about Frederic. I don't think the Bruins will trade him but having Schenn and Fredric will make this team better down the line.
With Cehlarik showing some chemistry and promise on the 2nd line, they should be looking to add a 3C now and see if the new 2nd line can continue with the solid play. Ideally a trade for 3C should include JFK+. He is redundant short term and long term. If 2RW still is an issue at the deadline, deal Gryz+. Those should be the only 2 roster spots in play because we can't afford to lose any other roster players.
I'm not disagreeing with you , I'm just saying lets play it out to see what happens with that line before trading Gryz.
Oates2Neely
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I have no idea. If I were a decision maker I’d wait it out. Under his current deal the team has two more playoff runs with Krug. Looking at the teams core, I’d say keeping Krug the duration of his contract is a no brainer. IF he asks for big money on his next deal, let him walk as a UFA.
I don’t think anyone expected Pastrnak and Marchand to sign for what they did. I’d rather wait it out with Krug. He’s a vital piece of this team, and at the moment there isn’t anyone to step into his role. Hopefully McAvoy can, but he hasn’t yet
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I think a lot of people are basing this off the years the Bruins spent looking for a "PMD" before & after Wideman and between Kaberle & Krug.
The difference is that back then the Bruins D was largely made up of defensive stay at home types. Those teams didn't have a McAvoy or Grzelcyk or Moore (or Vaakanainen, Lauzon & Zboril for that matter). And this team doesn't have a Sean O'Donnell or Aaron Ward. Even Kevan Miller can skate. The only really poor skater on our D is Chara & he obviously brings other things to the table.
Losing Krug would be noticed and hurt at times, but I don't think all the offense would suddenly dry up without him like some people think.
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