Management Bruins GM Don Sweeney addresses signings- All Sweeney Talk Here

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Why do people judge a GM by not going crazy nut trading constantly like they do in their faild attempt in fantasy leagues?

 

[Glove Malfunction]

There is no NHL talent looking to take over those spots unless you play Heinen out of position.

Donato, JFK, Bjork, Frederic and Studnicka are not established NHL players. If you move Heinen you have another hole on the left side. Sweeney did not address these needs in the off season. Period. He showed it in his pursuit of Kovalchuk that he knows he has key weak spots but failed to fill them

Not being an established NHL player is a very very differnt thing from not being an NHL talent. All five guys you noted have NHL talent. If teams followed your rationale, they would never draft anyone because they weren't established NHL players. News flash - Even Wayne Gretzky was a rookie with no NHL experience at one point.

 

[SpeedyLazaro]

I forgot.. did they actually sign anyone this offseason?

 

[Fenian24]

Not being an established NHL player is a very very differnt thing from not being an NHL talent. All five guys you noted have NHL talent. If teams followed your rationale, they would never draft anyone because they weren't established NHL players. News flash - Even Wayne Gretzky was a rookie with no NHL experience at one point.

I just would have liked established options here, I get the importance of draft and develop, I just think you develop in the AHL not the NHL. Also pure percentages suggest that not all of these prospects will play even a single game in the NHL never mind being important contributors.

I also find it extremely annoying that Sweeney continues to reach for picks, Senyshyn being the perfect example.

 

[vjcsmoke]

I also find it extremely annoying that Sweeney continues to reach for picks, Senyshyn being the perfect example.

Debrusk was considered a reach as well... but he turned out a lot better than expectations on draft day.

Senyshyn still has upside due to his physical traits, and he did score 87 goals in 2 OHL seasons, but who knows if/when he can ever make the leap to the NHL level. I'd say give him some time to mature.

I think about the only aspect of GMing that I continue to give Sweeney credit for is his drafting.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Debrusk was considered a reach as well... but he turned out a lot better than expectations on draft day.

Senyshyn still has upside due to his physical traits, and he did score 87 goals in 2 OHL seasons, but who knows if/when he can ever make the leap to the NHL level. I'd say give him some time to mature.

I think about the only aspect of GMing that I continue to give Sweeney credit for is his drafting.

Debrusk was ranked 19 and taken 14, so not really much of a reach at all. As for the expectation, I think (as with anything) it depends on whose expectations you were listening to.

 

[rocketdan9]

One concern moving fwd should the Bruins lack of 1c or even 2c quality center on the depth chart

Sweeney obsession with defensive oriented centers (3c types) .... cost them a chance to draft Barzal, Konechy, DeBrincat for example

They say draft the BPA and let the kinks workout on its own later. But Sweeney seems like he wants to try to emulate the Bergeron line model from top to bottom. Which is ideal but trying to find another Bergeron is once in a decade kind of gift

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

One concern moving fwd should the Bruins lack of 1c or even 2c quality center on the depth chart

Sweeney obsession with defensive oriented centers (3c types) .... cost them a chance to draft Barzal, Konechy, DeBrincat for example

They say draft the BPA and let the kinks workout on its own later. But Sweeney seems like he wants to try to emulate the Bergeron line model from top to bottom. Which is ideal but trying to find another Bergeron is once in a decade kind of gift

name a center that they drafted when the guys you listed were available.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

name a center that they drafted when the guys you listed were available.

Frederic over DeBrincat but hasn't ADB been a winger since turning professional?

 

[LouJersey]

One concern moving fwd should the Bruins lack of 1c or even 2c quality center on the depth chart

Sweeney obsession with defensive oriented centers (3c types) .... cost them a chance to draft Barzal, Konechy, DeBrincat for example

They say draft the BPA and let the kinks workout on its own later. But Sweeney seems like he wants to try to emulate the Bergeron line model from top to bottom. Which is ideal but trying to find another Bergeron is once in a decade kind of gift

Um what team has a quality 1C or 2C just sitting around as a healthy scratch?

Konecny and DeBrincat don't play center.

JFK, Frederic or even Backes are more than capable to fill in for a little bit while someone is injured.

 

[rocketdan9]

name a center that they drafted when the guys you listed were available.

Frederic instead of DeBrincat
Senyshyn instead of Konecny

 

[LouJersey]

Frederic instead of DeBrincat
Senyshyn instead of Konecny

Maybe they didn't do that because those guys were projected wings in the NHL (Where their current teams use them?)

 

[b in vancouver]

Not being an established NHL player is a very very differnt thing from not being an NHL talent. All five guys you noted have NHL talent. If teams followed your rationale, they would never draft anyone because they weren't established NHL players. News flash - Even Wayne Gretzky was a rookie with no NHL experience at one point.

Made me laugh.
Of all the players to mention, you name the one player that was never a rookie in the NHL.
He came over from the WHA.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Frederic instead of DeBrincat
Senyshyn instead of Konecny

As was already pointed out, neither of those two have played C in the NHL.

I don’t know what the concern was with drafting Barzal. I think with Konecny it was probably size/concussion concerns?

 

[Son of Donegal]

Apparently the 2019 draft is all about an abundance of high quality centers. Not sure who will be available when the Bruins step up to the podium, but quality players always seem to fall and Sweeney has done a pretty spectacular job in this regards.

Here are a few of the the C's currently projected to go in the first round:

Jack Hughes
Alex Newhook
Alex Turcotte
Dylan Cozens
Trevor Zegras
Raphael Lavoie
Valentin Nussbaumer
Kirby Dach
Ryan Suzuki
Yegor Spiridonov
Blake Murray
Petr Cajka
John Beecher
Oleg Zaitsev

There is a lot of variability in where Alex Newhook is ranked. Some folks like Steve Kourianos have him ranked #2 overall. Craig button has him going at the end of the first. This just goes to show there is a possibility be a great C player available when the Bruins are ready to pick.

 

[rocketdan9]

Apparently the 2019 draft is all about an abundance of high quality centers. Not sure who will be available when the Bruins step up to the podium, but quality players always seem to fall and Sweeney has done a pretty spectacular job in this regards.

Here are a few of the the C's currently projected to go in the first round:

Jack Hughes
Alex Newhook
Alex Turcotte
Dylan Cozens
Trevor Zegras
Raphael Lavoie
Valentin Nussbaumer
Kirby Dach
Ryan Suzuki
Yegor Spiridonov
Blake Murray
Petr Cajka
John Beecher
Oleg Zaitsev

There is a lot of variability in where Alex Newhook is ranked. Some folks like Steve Kourianos have him ranked #2 overall. Craig button has him going at the end of the first. This just goes to show there is a possibility be a great C player available when the Bruins are ready to pick.

Is there by a chance of miracle the Bruins can draft Hughes?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Is there by a chance of miracle the Bruins can draft Hughes?

Not unless they miss the playoffs. Or trade someone for the 1st round pick of a non-playoff team.

Neither of those scenarios is likely IMO.

 

[Son of Donegal]

Is there by a chance of miracle the Bruins can draft Hughes?

Less than .00000001% chance.

The package required to trade for the 1st overall pick would essentially push the Bruins into an immediate rebuild process - and while Jack Hughes looks to be a dynamic forward, in the vein of Patrick Kane, he would not be worthy of such a package.

But let's not ignore the real story here...

The awful reality in Ottawa is that they traded a conditional 1st rounder to COL as part of the Duchesne trade. They had the option to make that pick a 2018 or 2019 pick - they opted to take Brady Tkachuk at 4th overall this past year - which means COL gets to use the OTT pick in 2019. OTT is in a world of hurt and that pick will likely be a lottery pick, with a high likelihood of being the 1st overall pick.

If OTT tanks this season, they will watch COL use their 1st overall to nab Jack Hughes...and on top of it all, Matt Duchesne only has one year left on his contract before turning UFA.

Think about that for a moment.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Less than .00000001% chance.

The package required to trade for the 1st overall pick would essentially push the Bruins into an immediate rebuild process - and while Jack Hughes looks to be a dynamic forward, in the vein of Patrick Kane, he would not be worthy of such a package.

But let's not ignore the real story here...

The awful reality in Ottawa is that they traded a conditional 1st rounder to COL as part of the Duchesne trade. They had the option to make that pick a 2018 or 2019 pick - they opted to take Brady Tkachuk at 4th overall this past year - which means COL gets to use the OTT pick in 2019. OTT is in a world of hurt and that pick will likely be a lottery pick, with a high likelihood of being the 1st overall pick.

If OTT tanks this season, they will watch COL use their 1st overall to nab Jack Hughes...and on top of it all, Matt Duchesne only has one year left on his contract before turning UFA.

Think about that for a moment.

The B’s wouldn’t need to trade for the first pick, just a non-playoff pick, as every non playoff pick is now a lottery pick...

Then win the lottery

 

[Son of Donegal]

The B’s wouldn’t need to trade for the first pick, just a non-playoff pick, as every non playoff pick is now a lottery pick...

Then win the lottery

The odds of a team outside the bottom 5 winning the lottery are terrible. So, if the Bruins are 100% committed to drafting Jack Hughes, the only way to make sure they get him is to make a behemoth trade on draft day.

 

[Son of Donegal]

The odds of a team outside the bottom 5 winning the lottery are terrible. So, if the Bruins are 100% committed to drafting Jack Hughes, the only way to make sure they get him is to make a behemoth trade on draft day.

Here are the lottery odds from 2018.

1—18.5%
2—13.5%
3—11.5%
4—9.5%
5—8.5%
6—7.5%
7—6.5%
8—6.0%
9—5.0%
10—3.5%
11—3.0%
12—2.5%
13—2.0%
14—1.5%
15—1.0%

 

[mjhfb]

Here are the lottery odds from 2018.

1—18.5%
2—13.5%
3—11.5%
4—9.5%
5—8.5%
6—7.5%
7—6.5%
8—6.0%
9—5.0%
10—3.5%
11—3.0%
12—2.5%
13—2.0%
14—1.5%
15—1.0%

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Here are the lottery odds from 2018.

1—18.5%
2—13.5%
3—11.5%
4—9.5%
5—8.5%
6—7.5%
7—6.5%
8—6.0%
9—5.0%
10—3.5%
11—3.0%
12—2.5%
13—2.0%
14—1.5%
15—1.0%

So better than .00000001%?

 

[gumgum]

Ya'll ever heard of Matt Barzal?

Frederic and Cehlarik should, by rights, make this roster and both are ready to be top 9 NHL contributors on a nightly basis.

 

[rocketdan9]

Ya'll ever heard of Matt Barzal?
.

Erase my memory =T