Player Discussion Brandon Sutter. Defensive Center. One More Year Remaining at $4.375 AAV (w/ M-NTC).

[Svencouver]

What on earth.

The longest stretch I can imagine is four or five minutes in a period against Ottawa or so

 

[Misko]

Not sure why he was signed to a 1 year deal. Stupid management. Did sutter tell benning he was good to go? I swear jr and Alvin are probably scratching their heads.

Sutter signing a 1 year deal at a very low cap hit with injury insurance built into the contract is hardly suspect. The effects of long-covid on him likely weren't obvious to him or the team back in the summer. He would have been a serviceable defensive 4C who'd probably make our currently atrocious PK a little better for not much more than league minimum against the cap.

Hamonic's contract is the real killer, signing a dude who has so much personal and injury baggage that it's baffling he was offered any kind of real $$, he's barely played this season despite being paid 3M. Poolman is not much better who has an even longer term.

Benning has signed a lot of bad contracts but Sutters 1 year deal is hardly one of them, he doesn't even make the Top 3 from last offseason, his cap hit is erased by LTIR and the Aquilini's can afford to pay him.

 

[kanucks25]

I think this thread title needs an update lol

 

[F A N]

Hamonic's contract is the real killer, signing a dude who has so much personal and injury baggage that it's baffling he was offered any kind of real $$, he's barely played this season despite being paid 3M. Poolman is not much better who has an even longer term.

What "personal and injury baggage" would have prevented Hamonic from getting something close to what he signed for with another team?

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Not sure why he was signed to a 1 year deal. Stupid management. Did sutter tell benning he was good to go? I swear jr and Alvin are probably scratching their heads.

He can score , he can win draws, he can defend...Had 9 goals in 43 games last season (averages out to a 17-18 goals in a regular season)...We could have desperately used him on our 32nd ranked, worst in the league ranked PK., this season....Useful player..I think he would have flourished under Boudreau ...I get why some Canuck fans are choked that he was previously overpaid, but at just over a million bucks in a reduced role at 4C, ...that would have been a bargain.

 

[quat]

I was unhappy having Sutter back on the team because he's emblematic of all the years of failure that encapsulate the Benning era, not because he wouldn't actually fit the role of a fourth line Centre/PK specialist. The illness is just a drag for everyone involved and must be particularly difficult for Sutter.

 

[Misko]

What "personal and injury baggage" would have prevented Hamonic from getting something close to what he signed for with another team?

I would tell you, but literally nobody knows, not even Boudreau, as to why Hamonic has refused to be able to play more games than he currently has. He was waived earlier this season and nobody decided to take his contract which means not one team thought he was worth taking a risk on.

I was never high on Hamonic to begin with, if somebody else would've wanted to shoot themselves in the foot to give Hamonic 2x3M then they could've been my guest.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I would tell you, but literally nobody knows, not even Boudreau, as to why Hamonic has refused to be able to play more games than he currently has. He was waived earlier this season and nobody decided to take his contract which means not one team thought he was worth taking a risk on.

I was never high on Hamonic to begin with, if somebody else would've wanted to shoot themselves in the foot to give Hamonic 2x3M then they could've been my guest.

Wasn't that to do with his vaccination status..?..having an unvaccinated player was not alluring to most teams, at the time.....Has nothing to do with his play..

Before he was signed in July, he had multiple offers from other teams, but chose Vancouver..The league vaccine mandate didnt come into effect until well after his signing..Thats where the issues began.

 

[Misko]

Hamonic never admitted he couldn't play because he refused to get vaccinated initially. He's been super vague, though that's likely the reason based on speculation. Doesn't change the fact that even if he was healthy and "personal issue" free I don't rate him highly as a dman and would've preferred us to pass than pay him what he did.

Still, this thread isn't about him tbf.

 

[rypper]

(For some reason I couldn't link directly to the article.)

 

[F A N]

I would tell you, but literally nobody knows, not even Boudreau, as to why Hamonic has refused to be able to play more games than he currently has. He was waived earlier this season and nobody decided to take his contract which means not one team thought he was worth taking a risk on.

I was never high on Hamonic to begin with, if somebody else would've wanted to shoot themselves in the foot to give Hamonic 2x3M then they could've been my guest.

For some reason my reply to you seems to be gone.

My question is, are you saying that YOU know something that "literally nobody knows" about Hamonic?

Regardless, Hamonic clearing waivers means nothing. It's not about taking on risk. At the time Hamonic was waived, he hadn't shown up to camp and there's no timeline for his return. Any team picking him up on waivers would need to keep him on the roster. Given that Hamonic isn't a superstar asset, it's reasonable that other teams didn't pick him up.

 

[dwarf]

I wish they would pay me that to stay home. Sutter is the luckiest guy in the world that Fransisco loves him.

 

[krutovsdonut]

in the nfl this contract would have been cut the first day of camp. even in the nhl i think it's kind of unusual to sign a player who is injured and then honour the contract when he does not heal and never plays a game. i thought there was a mechanism to terminate in that situation.

so i wonder did sutter's contract address his condition and guarantee his contract even if he could not pass a physical, or did the team choose not to exercise its option to terminate?

 

[VanJack]

Sutter, that infernal Ferland contract; and the Luongo cap recapture penalty will finally be off the books at the end of this season.....Three footnotes in the Canucks lore of ugly contracts.

 

[VanJack]

Sutter's situation should be a cautionary tale and a learning opportunity for all the anti-vaxxers, conspiracy peddlers and panderers to virulent opposition to public health orders.

Here is a superbly conditioned athlete in prime of his career, struck down by COVID and who's still experiencing debilitating symptoms a year after contracting the virus. And it might well spell the end of his career, although he's still hoping to work his way back.

But the reality is, that quietly and sadly, people are still in ICU's and dying in British Columbia even though the Pandemic appears to be easing.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Sutter, that infernal Ferland contract; and the Luongo cap recapture penalty will finally be off the books at the end of this season.....Three footnotes in the Canucks lore of ugly contracts.

Sutters mega contract is already off the books.

 

[Timmer44]

I hope for Brandon's sake that he recovers from whatever it is that is preventing him from playing hockey.

I hate to speculate, but I just never felt like Sutter was truly invested in playing hockey after the 2017 season. He seemed to always conveniently be hurt right around the trade deadline.

Is there another professional athlete that has been so horribly affected by contracting covid as Sutter has been?

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I hope for Brandon's sake that he recovers from whatever it is that is preventing him from playing hockey.

I hate to speculate, but I just never felt like Sutter was truly invested in playing hockey after the 2017 season. He seemed to always conveniently be hurt right around the trade deadline.

Is there another professional athlete that has been so horribly affected by contracting covid as Sutter has been?

I don't agree with that..Of course he wanted to play, but he had a bum groin...It was pretty easy to spot that he was clearly labouring/grimacing trying to play through a chronic injury problem.

 

[M2Beezy]

But Sutter was actually good

 

[BWJM]

Christ I almost had a heart attack reading this thread title

 

[ziploc]

I don't agree with that..Of course he wanted to play, but he had a bum groin...It was pretty easy to spot that he was clearly labouring/grimacing trying to play through a chronic injury problem.

A bum groin sounds awful.

 

[Kryten]

Sutter, that infernal Ferland contract; and the Luongo cap recapture penalty will finally be off the books at the end of this season.....Three footnotes in the Canucks lore of ugly contracts.

Ferland is on the books until after NEXT season

 

[PG Canuck]

Anyone have that article of the Sutter/Goldobin situation? Saw it posted somewhere but can’t find where and wanted to read it

 

[Lupuls Grit]

He would trade all that money in an instant to be normal and healthy again, if only for his family and children. Shut up you loser.

I was going to respond but figured someone else had already appropriately dealt with it. Well done!

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Anyone have that article of the Sutter/Goldobin situation? Saw it posted somewhere but can’t find where and wanted to read it

Brandon Sutter’s balls and a culture of negativity - Vancouver Is Awesome