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Not impossible - just not likelyI think Trelivings hands are tied thanks to Dubas and his top six overpaid players. Hopefully he trades one of them in the summer , if possible.
Maybe if they showed anything at all this week.I guess the question is why would they ever “buy in”, they have been handed everything they could ever want. Buying in and going deeper is hard and sometimes it hurts and they have given no indication that they have any interest in doing so. Finally they have never been held accountable by the GM’s, Shanny or Shanny’s bosses period
God. What drugs are you on, and can you mail me some?Leafs will be laughing when their rivals have no picks or asset to trade in the next few years and JT's 11 mil gets slashed in half on his retirement contract.
Even with no big name this year we are contenders
We chipped away at crease and grit issues. Team is good
Why don't you show me how I'm wrong so I can school you on the repliesGod. What drugs are you on, and can you mail me some?
This is the grit Leafs need to play with in the playoffs lmaoWhy don't you show me how I'm wrong so I can school you on the replies
Tannenbaum will hear it from tre .we ll see if Shanahan is backI guess the question is why would they ever “buy in”, they have been handed everything they could ever want. Buying in and going deeper is hard and sometimes it hurts and they have given no indication that they have any interest in doing so. Finally they have never been held accountable by the GM’s, Shanny or Shanny’s bosses period
Dubas is already hearing it from Pittsburgh fansHe did great today. He recognized this core isn’t going to win jackshit no matter who you acquire and basically stood pat.
Not sure what people expected we could acquire that would make Matthews, Marner and Nylander actually fight for the middle of the ice or make Tavares anywhere near an 11 million dollar center.
It is interesting that they didn't spend more. Shanny must not be feeling the heat that so many think he should. Imagine him getting canned because he didn't push Tre to make a deal for Walker. How much of a reduction in cost would there have been if no $4M cap dump attached to that deal? I like him but I heard he was looking for $5M+ on his next deal so I am not missing the add as much as I might.He did great today. He recognized this core isn’t going to win jackshit no matter who you acquire and basically stood pat.
Not sure what people expected we could acquire that would make Matthews, Marner and Nylander actually fight for the middle of the ice or make Tavares anywhere near an 11 million dollar center.
Leafs have no picksLeafs will be laughing when their rivals have no picks or asset to trade in the next few years and JT's 11 mil gets slashed in half on his retirement contract.
Even with no big name this year we are contenders
We chipped away at crease and grit issues. Team is good
Is it them or the coach? Dan Bylsma won a Cup with Pittsburgh and never got back there. Sullivan won two with Pittsburgh but hasn't been past the 2nd round in six years. Cassidy had .685, .683, and .714 seasons with the Bs and still got fired but won a Cup in Vegas. It seems like the coaching change is what gets you over the hump, but eventually even the Cup coach goes stale. You can be a good coach but still not the one the team needs. They are stuck with the millionaire boys club because the Leaf's rubber stamp NMC deals. If they don't have a big playoff lets move on from the Brampton Legend and see if a different voice resonates.I guess the question is why would they ever “buy in”, they have been handed everything they could ever want. Buying in and going deeper is hard and sometimes it hurts and they have given no indication that they have any interest in doing so. Finally they have never been held accountable by the GM’s, Shanny or Shanny’s bosses period
And honestly, the trade with St. Louis last year doesn't look as bad if SOMEONE hadn't decided to just let everyone walk...
Not according to him.He did great today. He recognized this core isn’t going to win jackshit no matter who you acquire and basically stood pat.
Not sure what people expected we could acquire that would make Matthews, Marner and Nylander actually fight for the middle of the ice or make Tavares anywhere near an 11 million dollar center.
Free Agents make their own choices.McCabe is way better than Boosh, though, plus he had multiple years. And honestly, the trade with St. Louis last year doesn't look as bad if SOMEONE hadn't decided to just let everyone walk...
Is that why he re-signed the two guys from the core who he has been allowed to re-sign to new deals with NMCs? Because he doesn't believe in the core? Gonna be weird when he re-signs Marner, too.He did great today. He recognized this core isn’t going to win jackshit no matter who you acquire and basically stood pat.
I think at this point another coaching change is needed but I’m concerned that the bad habits are already to ingrained in this core group, it’s probably just who they areIs it them or the coach? Dan Bylsma won a Cup with Pittsburgh and never got back there. Sullivan won two with Pittsburgh but hasn't been past the 2nd round in six years. Cassidy had .685, .683, and .714 seasons with the Bs and still got fired but won a Cup in Vegas. It seems like the coaching change is what gets you over the hump, but eventually even the Cup coach goes stale. You can be a good coach but still not the one the team needs. They are stuck with the millionaire boys club because the Leaf's rubber stamp NMC deals. If they don't have a big playoff lets move on from the Brampton Legend and see if a different voice resonates.
I agree they probably should have broken up the core but a coaching change should be the last step before they were to try that. Much easier than trying to get Mitch to waive his NM I think.
It’s going to be sad because it’s going to mean another 4-5 years of this shit show and lack of playoff successIs that why he re-signed the two guys from the core who he has been allowed to re-sign to new deals with NMCs? Because he doesn't believe in the core? Gonna be weird when he re-signs Marner, too.
I don't actually believe that. One thing I like about Treliving is his you gotta keep knocking at the door and eventually you'll break it down mentality. Winning is hard. Really hard. And with the current format, it's even harder because the division is so tough (not an excuse, just the truth).It’s going to be sad because it’s going to mean another 4-5 years of this shit show and lack of playoff success
Any habits this team has will change with the surrounding players and a coaching change the young kids have way more of an edge then the core really would love to see Matthews get nasty that's the one thing above many that's really missingI think at this point another coaching change is needed but I’m concerned that the bad habits are already to ingrained in this core group, it’s probably just who they are
It’s going to be sad because it’s going to mean another 4-5 years of this shit show and lack of playoff success
Everyone in the league shares it. Did Tampa trade any of their star players before they won a Cup? Did Colorado? Teams generally keep star players unless they are forced to trade them for other reasons. It's not rocket science.I don't actually believe that. One thing I like about Treliving is his you gotta keep knocking at the door and eventually you'll break it down. Winning is hard. Really hard. And with the current format, it's even harder because the division is so tough (not an excuse, just the truth).
What I find super interesting is that people seem to think Treliving is doing something very different or is hindered by what happened before him. He's re-signed Keefe, Matthews, and Nylander (he's likely to do the and with Marner). He's found depth pieces on both the cheap and flyers the same way we've been doing forI years now. Even Reaves, he's certainly the most fighter type guy we've had in a while, but it's not the first time in the last five years we've added that hard nosed, gonna make us tough to play against, character guy.
The process is so similar, it's obvious Shanahan has a vision and Treliving shares it.