Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

daveleaf

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Kyle Dumbass is definitely the worst GM in Leafs history and one of the worst in the history of the NHL.

Dumbass constantly tries to apply the logic of fantasy hockey and NHL’24 video games to building an NHL team. He’s making the exact same mistakes in Pittsburgh with Karlsson as he did in Toronto with Tavares.

Once the Leafs can start moving out the deadwood that Dumbass accumulated, they can begin building a competent team around Matthews, Marner and Nylander.

Brodie and his $5M boat anchor will be gone this summer.
Tavares and his $11M boat anchor will be gone next summer.

Thanks to Dumbass the Leafs have ZERO picks in 2025 until the 5th round. Treliving isn’t as stupid as Dumbass to trade away all of his top draft picks three or four years into the future.
I agree but Shanny ok'd all of it, he should have to pay the price as well. He hired him and kept him around way too long.
 

Donnie740

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Thankfully, Treliving didn’t waste this year’s 1st round pick on a mediocre 3rd line hack who would be gone in the summer.

This is such a fantastic change from the Kyle Dumbass era of wasting a 3rd round pick on Dave The Save Rittich or wasting a 1st and a 4th on an injured Nick Foligno.
 

Shooter14

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He's doing a great job of doing absolutely nothing. f*** this guy
Realistically his hands were tied, Dubas left him tight to the cap, not much capital in draft picks to negotiatea better deal. Also the cupboards are bare with prospects, that would have been difficult to trade away.
 
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Lemontree

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He's doing a great job of doing absolutely nothing. f*** this guy
Almost no draft pick capital for the next 3 drafts thanks to the moron who was the previous GM.

Which players moved today would have been a difference maker? This is what proper asset management looks like from a professional manager at the trade deadline. You must have been a fan of the previous GM, who shed assets like a spoiled kid who received an inheritance he didn't work for or deserve.
 

Lightsol

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I think Trelivings hands are tied thanks to Dubas and his top six overpaid players. Hopefully he trades one of them in the summer , if possible.
Yes, aren't we all looking forward to another decade of not making the playoffs when the board concludes from all this that draft rebuilding is clearly inferior to Cliff's DRAFT SCHMAFT plan? After all, they had two Final 4 appearances with the latter and nothing with the former, so clearly the solution is to buy free agents.
 

Lightsol

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Question to the Dubas supporters? Would you have been happier if Tre spent a 1st and a 2nd round draft pick on Lybushkin and Duwar. These guys are very comparable to McCabe and Lafferty from last deadline.....you geniuses loved that move at the time.
McCabe is way better than Boosh, though, plus he had multiple years. And honestly, the trade with St. Louis last year doesn't look as bad if SOMEONE hadn't decided to just let everyone walk...
 
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JEI

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Kept the core together.. to do nothing with it at the deadline .. certainly doing a job.
 

Lemontree

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McCabe is way better than Boosh, though, plus he had multiple years. And honestly, the trade with St. Louis last year doesn't look as bad if SOMEONE hadn't decided to just let everyone walk...
O'Reilly was a UFA and chose to sign elsewhere. Unless you have knowledge that the Leafs didn't offer him a contract than you are incorrect.

McCabe isn't way better, he might be slightly better but they are both 3rd pairing Dman.
 

Lightsol

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O'Reilly was a UFA and chose to sign elsewhere. Unless you have knowledge that the Leafs didn't offer him a contract than you are incorrect.

McCabe isn't way better, he might be slightly better but they are both 3rd pairing Dman.
They didn't. They didn't offer Accari or Schenn one either. That's what happens when you wait a few weeks before FA to hire your GM; Tre barely did ANY negotiations before FA hit.
 

Lightsol

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Oh so GM’s can make people sign here against their will…take a nap
Um, "deciding to let everyone walk" IS NOT THE SAME f***ING THING as "forced everyone to resign". They didn't even TRY to retain any of those players; Tre was busy resigning David Kampf instead.
 

Lemontree

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They didn't. They didn't offer Accari or Schenn one either. That's what happens when you wait a few weeks before FA to hire your GM; Tre barely did ANY negotiations before FA hit.
They spoke with O'Rielly, his camp let them know that he did not intend on returning with the Leafs and would test UFA. Accari and Schenn both wanted to test UFA and both got contracts that were great for them and not for the teams that signed them.

Would you have people believe that if Dubas was the GM than all 3 players would have resigned with the Leafs and less than what they received in UFA?
 
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Lightsol

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They spoke with O'Rielly, his camp let them know that he did not intend on returning with the Leafs and would test UFA. Accari and Schenn both wanted to test UFA and both got contracts that were great for them and not for the teams that signed them.

Would you have people believe that if Dubas was the GM than all 3 players would have resigned with the Leafs and less than what they received in UFA?
Seeing as Dubas was actually negotiating with both Accari AND Schenn when he left and the Leafs simply stoped talking to both of them and let them go to FA, yes. Yes I do believe they would have gotten them resigned, or at least come closer than "f*** it, they're gone".
 

Lemontree

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Thank goodness he paid for retention on both Lyubushkin and Edmundson.
Every little bit helps when you are up against the cap. They need the wiggle room for roster moves (call ups, etc) to finish the season.

And you know this for a fact?
Just another Dubas bot. Neither of us should continue to engage in conversation with this poster.

Seeing as Dubas was actually negotiating with both Accari AND Schenn when he left and the Leafs simply stoped talking to both of them and let them go to FA, yes. Yes I do believe they would have gotten them resigned, or at least come closer than "f*** it, they're gone".
You seem to have a lot of insight on the inner workings of Leaf management team. Why are you spending your time posting here?
 
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Until Mathew's Marner and Nylander decide they need to do what ever it take to win in the playoffs We won't win.
I thought last year we should have got Schenn and nothing else.
I wanted to see if the core four could finally get it done win a couple of rounds .
Dubas never understood you can't go all in every year.

Now we are left with nothing.

After the game against Boston treliving should only do a small deal for defense.

The big boys need to buy in they haven't yet

In the past couple of weeks Mathews has 0 goals against Boston Vegas Rangers that should scare everyone leaf fan
I guess the question is why would they ever “buy in”, they have been handed everything they could ever want. Buying in and going deeper is hard and sometimes it hurts and they have given no indication that they have any interest in doing so. Finally they have never been held accountable by the GM’s, Shanny or Shanny’s bosses period
 

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