Confirmed with Link: Boychuk to Isles for picks

[Scotto74]

He was their "big addition."

The quotation marks are ironic. It was a ****** deadline and it led to too many minutes/games for Bartkowski.

Now penciled in as our number four.

another one. Please tell me how Bart is #4 just how?

Z, Sides, Hamilton, Mcquaid, Miller, Krug are all ahead of him. This is just reaching saying he is now our number 4.

 

[EverettMike]

another one. Please tell me how Bart is #4 just how?

Z, Sides, Hamilton, Mcquaid, Miller, Krug are all ahead of him. This is just reaching saying he is now our number 4.

People in this thread, but more worrisome are lots of Bruins writers on Twitter.

 

[Beyonder91]

He was their "big addition."

The quotation marks are ironic. It was a ****** deadline and it led to too many minutes/games for Bartkowski.

Now penciled in as our number four.

Yes, it is ironic he would ever be called a big addition. He was added for depth due to injuries on our back-end.

 

[EverettMike]

McQuaid is not a top four guy. I don't think Miller is either.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Sens Dynasty?? I miss something?

They were a powerhouse NHL team for a long time, and although they never had the rings to show for it, they were the class of the East for a long time. Every year they were basically favored to run away with the East, and had some of the most impressive East squads in a long time. But yes, never good enough to seal the deal.

Still I went to Sens cup finals games long before Bruins cup finals games.

 

[Scotto74]

People in this thread, but more worrisome are lots of Bruins writers on Twitter.

I would eat my hat if Bart is even on the ice game one. The only one he might and that's a might get ice time before is Miller. I see them fighting it out for the 6th spot but there is no way he is taking the spot of Z, Sides, Hamilton, Krug, McQuaid. What do you think the order is Mike? Show me how he is your number 4.

 

[WPGBruinsfan4]

Yes, we may have been a bit jammed on the depth-chart and cap-wise, but this is basically just like giving Boychuk away, he's way more valuable than what we got in return. Islanders get a steal.

 

[ODAAT]

They were a powerhouse NHL team for a long time, and although they never had the rings to show for it, they were the class of the East for a long time. Every year they were basically favored to run away with the East, and had some of the most impressive East squads in a long time. But yes, never good enough to seal the deal.

Still I went to Sens cup finals games long before Bruins cup finals games.

Our definitions of "dynasty" as you put it is vastly different

 

[mtchbx]

Why would you trade Boychuk for picks when you know that you cant draft. Jordan Caron waived this morning. The part of New England sports organization that is incredibly arrogant and cant draft or trade, or sign free agents is already taken.

 

[Blitzkrug]

McQuaid is not a top four guy. I don't think Miller is either.

Agreed.

The logical thing to do would be to put Chara on a pairing with Dougie, and then shelter Krug's shortcoming by putting him with Seidnberg. Then you put Miller and Bart or Quaider on the bottom pair.

None of those last three should be sniffing top 4 minutes.

 

[Scotto74]

Why would you trade Boychuk for picks when you know that you cant draft. Jordan Caron waived this morning. The part of New England sports organization that is incredibly arrogant and cant draft or trade, or sign free agents is already taken.

no one says they have to use the picks and not maybe trade them.

 

[EverettMike]

I would eat my hat if Bart is even on the ice game one. The only one he might and that's a might get ice time before is Miller. I see them fighting it out for the 6th spot but there is no way he is taking the spot of Z, Sides, Hamilton, Krug, McQuaid. What do you think the order is Mike? Show me how he is your number 4.

I don't think we have anyone I want as our number four.

I have Bartkowski at 11.

 

[neelynugs]

haven't read the thread, assume 90% of the responses don't support this deal. I personally would've kept boychuk for this year and let him walk afterwards. team is weaker today, but obviously they have a plan to acquire more assets at some point.

the value of the trade is actually pretty good, just don't see why a cup contender deals a top 4 defenseman when other options were available.

 

[sarge88]

I encourage some folks to check out what the cap did to that Sens dynasty.

The Bruins and Hawks have been models of keeping good squads despite the cap. People get that good players get good money, obviously. Too many good players means you can't keep them all. So winning, in theory, shouldn't be something a team could do year in and year out. Yet here we are, another year where not many teams in the East are better than us, top to bottom.

Certainly accurate. The problem in this case I think is that JB was just about everything most Bruins fans want to see in a player.

He is a very good player who played the game hard, played it right and was tough and a gamer.

Plus he was a significant part of the only cup most of us have witnessed.

Losing a guy like that hurts and the fact that it was a "choice" (a difficult choice for Chia and Cam, but still a choice) makes it even harder for some of us to deal with.

 

[Braunbaer]

JB is a true #3/#4 dman. yes, he will be missed, but he is very replaceable. At the deadline, Chia will have stockpiled picks to make a significant move to help this team for another Stanley Cup run.

Like all the significant moves before the recent deadlines?

 

[Scotto74]

I don't think we have anyone I want as our number four.

I have Bartkowski at 11.

so you are not ok with a top 4 of

Z-Hamilton
Sides-Krug


That's what I see as the top 4 and I am happy with that.

 

[trenton1]

how is Bart in the top 4?

Z, Sides, Hamilton, Krug, Miller, Mcquaid are all above Bart in the depth chart. Where are you getting him as #4? he won't even be on the ice opening day.

Gaping hole on blueline just as there was last spring with one subtraction from top 4. Bart and Miller got a lot of minutes and they stunk. McQuaid and Krug are bottom pairing guys, too.

 

[EverettMike]

I love McQuaid as a number six. And I like Miller's game, but as a bottom pairing guy.

I wouldn't trust Bartkowski with any important role, or in an important game or important moment.

 

[Scotto74]

Gaping hole on blueline just as there was last spring with one subtraction from top 4. Bart and Miller got a lot of minutes and they stunk.

is this what you were saying in all the threads about our log jam at D and who was going to be the odd man out? I must have missed those posts. Dont' recall anyone pointing out how thin our D was.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Gaping hole on blueline just as there was last spring with one subtraction from top 4. Bart and Miller got a lot of minutes and they stunk.

Yes, but that hole was because of injury. That guy who plugged the hole is now back at 100%, thus losing Boychuk isn't nearly as bad as losing Seidenberg last year.

You get one guy, but lose the other.

Still leaves a hole, but at least the hole doesn't get bigger, if you get my drift.

 

[sarge88]

another one. Please tell me how Bart is #4 just how?

Z, Sides, Hamilton, Mcquaid, Miller, Krug are all ahead of him. This is just reaching saying he is now our number 4.

I think it's because McQuaid and Miller seem to be prototypical 3rd pairing guys and Krug is still kind of specialist with physical limitations.

Of the 3, Bart's skill set is more similar to Boychuk's, and therefore it makes sense to some of us that he'll be used that way.

 

[trenton1]

so you are not ok with a top 4 of

Z-Hamilton
Sides-Krug


That's what I see as the top 4 and I am happy with that.

Krug on the right side? Nope.

 

[EverettMike]

so you are not ok with a top 4 of

Z-Hamilton
Sides-Krug


That's what I see as the top 4 and I am happy with that.

Game six on the road? Nope.

Chara is 38 and has had trouble staying healthy in the spring.

Seidenberg coming off a major injury, missed a few playoff runs.

No margin for injury now on the back end. None.

 

[Lobster57]

haven't read the thread, assume 90% of the responses don't support this deal. I personally would've kept boychuk for this year and let him walk afterwards. team is weaker today, but obviously they have a plan to acquire more assets at some point.

the value of the trade is actually pretty good, just don't see why a cup contender deals a top 4 defenseman when other options were available.

this, a thousand times this. Way better chance of this team going deep in the post season with Boychuk than without him. If everyone is rolling an healthy at the deadline you go all-in and think of JB as the rental pick-up. If there is a rash of injuries to key guys and/or the mojo is way off, maybe you trade him to a western conference contender who would give up more for him.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

haven't read the thread, assume 90% of the responses don't support this deal. I personally would've kept boychuk for this year and let him walk afterwards. team is weaker today, but obviously they have a plan to acquire more assets at some point.

the value of the trade is actually pretty good, just don't see why a cup contender deals a top 4 defenseman when other options were available.

A riddle:
When does a Cup contender deal a top four defenseman for futures when other options are available?