Player Discussion Bobby Ryan Part VII

[alfstheman]

10 times out of 10 if teams had the option to take either Phaneuf or Ryan teams would take Phaneuf. Phaneuf is still still a good defenseman just not top 4 anymore. He is way more reliable season in and season out than Ryan is. LA is also the worst team in the league. That's not because of Phaneuf as a bottom pairing D. He at least leads the team in hits.

Really tho? If Ryan continues this play all season (doubtful but you never know) and plays well next season I could see a contender take a chance next deadline if Ottawa retains.

Phaneuf is a 7 mill bottom pair D, Ryan is a 7 mill pp specialist who is playing like a decent 2nd liner atm.

Also as we all know too well, leading the team in hits doesnt make you a good defenseman...

 

[Agent Zub]

It's so obvious when Ryan cares vs doesn't.

 

[Stylizer1]

Healthy Ryan is far more valuable than P9, and I don’t think it’s close at all.

I was not talking about if Ryan was healthy I was talking about both players track records that teams would use to judge. Phaneuf has been reliable over the last few season and Ryan has had 1 good playoff push. A healthy Ryan should get you 20 goals/30 assists. If he was consistently that It would be a no brainer.

 

[Stylizer1]

Really tho? If Ryan continues this play all season (doubtful but you never know) and plays well next season I could see a contender take a chance next deadline if Ottawa retains.

Phaneuf is a 7 mill bottom pair D, Ryan is a 7 mill pp specialist who is playing like a decent 2nd liner atm.

Also as we all know too well, leading the team in hits doesnt make you a good defenseman...

Ryan is on the power play because we have an inexperienced team at the moment. No way a contender takes a chance on Ryan by next years deadline or even the year after. On his final year sure. To big of a cap hit regardless of how much money Ottawa retains.

 

[Stylizer1]

On pace for 55pts, wouldn't be too far off to being what 7.5M players produce.

If the PP continues to be good, he can easily hit 60+

But with Ryan it's always been how he produced. First half of the season lights out motivated. Second half he would literally disappear. Then he would just get hurt every 15 games. He absolutely lacks intensity. Brian Burke was bang on.

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

It's so obvious when Ryan cares vs doesn't.

Yep!
We have a dude like him at work. When he's on (most of the time) he basically doubles everyone else's production.
When he's off he's yard sale, so we just tell him to telework. He still produces at a pretty brisk clip.
I literally have no complaints about Bobby this year. Damning with faint praise maybe, but it's good.

 

[JD1]

Ryan is on the power play because we have an inexperienced team at the moment. No way a contender takes a chance on Ryan by next years deadline or even the year after. On his final year sure. To big of a cap hit regardless of how much money Ottawa retains.

are you watching the PP? didn't you say a few days ago you aren't watching? The PP is looking pretty solid and more importantly solid in a sustainable way. Ryan is a pretty big reason the #1 pp is effective.

Ryan is on the PP because Hoffman and EK aren't. That Hoffman and EK PP wasn't very effective.

Ryan appears to be healthy. he's shooting the puck better than he has in a couple of years.

pro tip....if you want to have an opinion on what's happening in the hockey world don't admit you aren't watching the games

 

[Stylizer1]

are you watching the PP? didn't you say a few days ago you aren't watching? The PP is looking pretty solid and more importantly solid in a sustainable way. Ryan is a pretty big reason the #1 pp is effective.

Ryan is on the PP because Hoffman and EK aren't. That Hoffman and EK PP wasn't very effective.

Ryan appears to be healthy. he's shooting the puck better than he has in a couple of years.

pro tip....if you want to have an opinion on what's happening in the hockey world don't admit you aren't watching the games

I didn't say anything about the effectiveness of the PP. I stated why he is on it.

The coaching wasn't very effective last year. This year they are better but in order for bobby to be a solid contributor the team had to ship out higher quality options.

Ryan sucks.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I was not talking about if Ryan was healthy I was talking about both players track records that teams would use to judge. Phaneuf has been reliable over the last few season and Ryan has had 1 good playoff push. A healthy Ryan should get you 20 goals/30 assists. If he was consistently that It would be a no brainer.

Fair enough, but hey Alfie had injury issues that affected his game big time until Kelly’s skates kick started his resurgence.

Now, maybe that won’t happen here, but injuries have been what has held Bobby’s career back, we’ve seen how good he can be when he’s not. P9 is dropping off a cliff skill wise, he’s likely going to get slower and slower and be a serious liability sooner than later to match his contract.

Ryan is not a liability when he’s not injured. Maybe not living up to 7.5 million, but if injuries don’t get in the way he’s well on his way to being close, again.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I didn't say anything about the effectiveness of the PP. I stated why he is on it.

The coaching wasn't very effective last year. This year they are better but in order for bobby to be a solid contributor the team had to ship out higher quality options.

Ryan sucks.

Wait, are you not watching the games? This would explain why your assessment of Ryan is way off this season.

You should check out a game or two, the PP is as dangerous as we’ve seen in a very long time.

Seriously, check it out.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I didn't say anything about the effectiveness of the PP. I stated why he is on it.

The coaching wasn't very effective last year. This year they are better but in order for bobby to be a solid contributor the team had to ship out higher quality options.

Ryan sucks.

He's been better this year. Looks energized

 

[mianjo]

2 points every 3 games is not bad that would be about 50+ points over the season.

Bobby Ryan (RW/LW)

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[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Stylizer1]

Wait, are you not watching the games? This would explain why your assessment of Ryan is way off this season.

You should check out a game or two, the PP is as dangerous as we’ve seen in a very long time.

Seriously, check it out.

As far as this team has fallen I hope to God that Ryan can finally become a go to player in some fashion. I haven't said anything about Ryan's play this season because for me it doesn't matter. When this team was hunting for the playoffs in seasons past he was a let down. Now that there is no pressure he is finding his game? Rad!

 

[Stylizer1]

He's been better this year. Looks energized

I hope that's the case come game 60.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

He playing his best hockey to get the hell out of Ottawa in a trade

 

[Sensung]

Healthy Ryan is far more valuable than P9, and I don’t think it’s close at all.

I agree.

 

[coladin]

As far as this team has fallen I hope to God that Ryan can finally become a go to player in some fashion. I haven't said anything about Ryan's play this season because for me it doesn't matter. When this team was hunting for the playoffs in seasons past he was a let down. Now that there is no pressure he is finding his game? Rad!

He had an amazing playoffs last time we were in it.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Ryan is on the power play because we have an inexperienced team at the moment. No way a contender takes a chance on Ryan by next years deadline or even the year after. On his final year sure. To big of a cap hit regardless of how much money Ottawa retains.

Yeah that's not true at all. You actually believe if Ottawa retained 50%, that he wouldn't have value at 3.625?

 

[Sensung]

He had an amazing playoffs last time we were in it.

Ya, he was a big reason we had that run.

 

[Stylizer1]

Yeah that's not true at all. You actually believe if Ottawa retained 50%, that he wouldn't have value at 3.625?

Not worth it if he is so fragile to another team. He is too inconsistent even when healthy. Is isn't known for his intensity, can't even spell it.

 

[Stylizer1]

Ya, he was a big reason we had that run.

Was it worth 22 mill? because that was the one time since he was traded here that he earned his pay. That's the type of player we traded for so by his 4th season with us he finally did something when it counted.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Was it worth 22 mill? because that was the one time since he was traded here that he eared his pay. That's the type of player we traded for so by his 4th season with us he finally did something when it counted.

Yes it was worth it it didn’t come out of my pocket and hat run was the most fun I’ve had as a sens fan ina. Long time

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Yes it was worth it it didn’t come out of my pocket and hat run was the most fun I’ve had as a sens fan ina. Long time

I love ya and have never agreed with you more

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Yes it was worth it it didn’t come out of my pocket and hat run was the most fun I’ve had as a sens fan ina. Long time

Great post.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

It seems unfair that Bobby has to grind it out on the 3rd line. Why can't he play with Duchene and Dzingel? I can't remember what his chemistry with Duchene is like off the top of my head... Have they ever had any success?