Blues Trade Proposals 2019-20 - Part III

[TK 421]

I think Dunn is gone this offseason regardless of other moves due to Perunovich having a very similar skillset.

 

[Celtic Note]

I think I would probably like to see Perunovich play some significant professional hockey before ditching Dunn.

 

[Blueston]

I think I would probably like to see Perunovich play some significant professional hockey before ditching Dunn.

Seems unnecessary. Even if Perunovich isn't ready, I think we can find someone else to turn the puck over in bad situations and lose coverage in D zone.

 

[WeWentBlues]

Mikkola is ready. We have flexibility in the D-group to move a guy like Dunn for premium assets and cap relief if we need to.

 

[Celtic Note]

So let’s plug a bunch of rookies in in the back end? Is that the direction people think we should head?

 

[illininer]

So let’s plug a bunch of rookies in in the back end? Is that the direction people think we should head?

Didn't we do that with Parayko and Edmundson the year we went to the WCF?

 

[Alklha]

So let’s plug a bunch of rookies in in the back end? Is that the direction people think we should head?

If we're going to keep Pietrangelo then some things have to give.

If we do extend Pietrangelo and trade Dunn, we still have six experienced NHL defensemen signed next season. Knowing Armstrong, we'll likely sign another at ~$1m to battle it out with Mikkola and Perunovich for the final roster spot. It isn't an overreliance on rookies.

Still, I'm not sure that we'll be looking to move Dunn. We seen with ANA & MIN a few years ago that it can be difficult to get good offers for defensemen in the year leading up to an expansion draft. Things might be different this time around, and our situation is different from both of theirs, but it could limit the market somewhat.

 

[bleedblue1223]

If we retain Pietrangelo, Parayko, Faulk, and Scandella, then we can create a high-quality group of 6/7 that includes a rookie. I'd go the route of Mikkola with Perunovich starting in the minors. Mikkola would probably be a good partner with Faulk too. Gunnar and Bort round things out.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

Looks like Dunn is in the doghouse....

...until he scores the game winner

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Mikkola-Bortuzzo honestly sounds like an amazing 3rd pairing if we want them to be pure defense. Faulk Pietrangelo has also looked pretty decent. Trading Dunn could work. But with Tarasenko looking like he had to go back on the LTIR it could definitely be easier to slide Pietrangelo back in under the cap and keep mostly the same roster. I still think one of Steen, Bozak, or Allen has to move out. Luckily they are all on their last year of their contracts.

 

[Celtic Note]

Didn't we do that with Parayko and Edmundson the year we went to the WCF?

I don’t remember, but if true, were they penciled into the lineup without either playing professional hockey or earning their spot from a vet?

I personally don’t mind a rookie or two, but we should have great confidence in them based on professional experience with spot starts or because they either came into camp or at some point of the season and stole a role from a vet.

 

[Celtic Note]

If we're going to keep Pietrangelo then some things have to give.

If we do extend Pietrangelo and trade Dunn, we still have six experienced NHL defensemen signed next season. Knowing Armstrong, we'll likely sign another at ~$1m to battle it out with Mikkola and Perunovich for the final roster spot. It isn't an overreliance on rookies.

Still, I'm not sure that we'll be looking to move Dunn. We seen with ANA & MIN a few years ago that it can be difficult to get good offers for defensemen in the year leading up to an expansion draft. Things might be different this time around, and our situation is different from both of theirs, but it could limit the market somewhat.

I don’t mind penciling in one spot given that we have seen Mikkola professionally and he seems ready. Making it a competition with Scott adds some comfort in knowing we have two guys battling for a spot.

I am not comfortable however just penciling Scott in. I guess that is mute if there is just one open spot.

 

[Internettoughguy314]

If we're going to keep Pietrangelo then some things have to give.

If we do extend Pietrangelo and trade Dunn, we still have six experienced NHL defensemen signed next season. Knowing Armstrong, we'll likely sign another at ~$1m to battle it out with Mikkola and Perunovich for the final roster spot. It isn't an overreliance on rookies.

Still, I'm not sure that we'll be looking to move Dunn. We seen with ANA & MIN a few years ago that it can be difficult to get good offers for defensemen in the year leading up to an expansion draft. Things might be different this time around, and our situation is different from both of theirs, but it could limit the market somewhat.

I don't think Dumbs or Fowler were really available. I think it was all postering for their contract negotiations. Dunn is a different story. He's an rfa and not arbitration eligible. He should have a rather decent market.

 

[Blueston]

I don’t remember, but if true, were they penciled into the lineup without either playing professional hockey or earning their spot from a vet?

I personally don’t mind a rookie or two, but we should have great confidence in them based on professional experience with spot starts or because they either came into camp or at some point of the season and stole a role from a vet.

Parayko played 17 regular season and 5 playoff games in AHL after his college season ended. That aside, if we trade Dunn, Perunovich would have to beat out Mikkola and either Borts or Gunnar for spot. We can pencil him in but those guys are nice safety net.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Parayko played 17 regular season and 5 playoff games in AHL after his college season ended. That aside, if we trade Dunn, Perunovich would have to beat out Mikkola and either Borts or Gunnar for spot. We can pencil him in but those guys are nice safety net.

I hope Gunner is off this team after October 1st.

 

[MissouriMook]

I hope Gunner is off this team after October 1st.

Meh. He and his contract are fine, but we need to go into next season with him as our #7.

 

[Celtic Note]

Parayko played 17 regular season and 5 playoff games in AHL after his college season ended. That aside, if we trade Dunn, Perunovich would have to beat out Mikkola and either Borts or Gunnar for spot. We can pencil him in but those guys are nice safety net.

That likely means that Bortz and Gunnerson are everyday players.

 

[Blueston]

That likely means that Bortz and Gunnerson are everyday players.

Perunovich may need bit of seasoning, but I expect he will be in St a Louis and in lineup by time playoffs start.

 

[Celtic Note]

Perunovich may need bit of seasoning, but I expect he will be in St a Louis and in lineup by time playoffs start.

That would be great if he is ready.

 

[TheDizee]

i want dunn moved in the offseason to clear space.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

If we're shopping Dunn, what do people think is ideal? Picks, prospects, cost controlled young forward?

 

[Blueston]

If we're shopping Dunn, what do people think is ideal? Picks, prospects, cost controlled young forward?

Yes.

 

[simon IC]

If we're shopping Dunn, what do people think is ideal? Picks, prospects, cost controlled young forward?

All of the above. If possible, little to no salary coming back.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Steen, Dunn, and Allen should all be gone next season. Tarasenko is a wild card depending on his shoulder. I wouldn't mind keeping Bozak. He is a good 2 way forward who can play up and down the middle 6 when needed.

Husso, Mikkola, and Kyrou should have time roles in the NHL next season. Kostin is also possible.

Sanford-ROR-Perron
Schwartz-Schenn-Kyrou
Blais-Thomas-Bozak
MacMac-Sunny-Barbie

Faulk Pietrangelo
Scandella Parayko
Mikkola Bortuzzo

Binnington
Husso

 

[Reality Czech]

i want dunn moved in the offseason to clear space.

I want Dunn moved because the team will be better off without him. The guy is worse at playing defense than I previously thought. He is a liability out there and doesn't even chip in on offense that often. Trade him please!