GDT: Blackhawks @ Knights 9:00 PM (CT) NBCSCH - Just Win

[Pez68]

Kane is and has been a huge part of the PP problems.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

Kane is and has been a huge part of the PP problems.

Yeah but his zone entries are still probably the best on the team.

 

[Pez68]

Yeah but his zone entries are still probably the best on the team.

I seriously question that. I think that is Toews or Saad. They attack the seams and take what is given. Kane just b-lines to the right half boards and stands there. Power play has to be dynamic. He's way too predictable lately.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Kane is and has been a huge part of the PP problems.

I wonder what the first unit would look like without Kane, then let Kane play with the slugs on the second unit.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I seriously question that. I think that is Toews or Saad. They attack the seams and take what is given. Kane just b-lines to the right half boards and stands there. Power play has to be dynamic. He's way too predictable lately.

I think Kane disrupts good players and their games, even Panarin showed signs of it in his second year with the club.

Maybe Kane just needs to be Kessel’d and put on a third line with third liners. Guys who grind, those who can still be effective without flashing skill.

 

[Hawkaholic]

30-40 practices in a month? You're aware they don't practice 1+ times a day? Morning skate is simply a skate to loosen up. It's not practice. They will have likely had 8-10 actual practices since he was brought on...

I'd love to know how a team practices more than once a day for an entire month in the middle of their season.

if you followed, I said in a span of 20-25 games.

 

[Pez68]

if you followed, I said in a span of 20-25 games.

There's no chance.

 

[ChiHawks10]

if you followed, I said in a span of 20-25 games.

Even in a span of 20-25 games... you're talking they might have 10-15 practices at most. That's like what, 6 or 7 weeks or so most likely? There's no way. They'd have to practice every other day...

 

[Hawkaholic]

There's no chance.

it was a guesstimate on how many practices there would be in a 20-25 game span. 1+ practices for every GP isn't that far fetched.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Even in a span of 20-25 games... you're talking they might have 10-15 practices at most. That's like what, 6 or 7 weeks or so most likely? There's no way. They'd have to practice every other day...

I don't see that, but I was including game day skates where they should be practicing anything new the coach wants to implement.

 

[Pez68]

it was a guesstimate on how many practices there would be in a 20-25 game span. 1+ practices for every GP isn't that far fetched.

Except it is, when you factor in travel time, compacted schedules, etc. The Hawks might be getting a full practice in twice a week.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Nah, we all thought Q was the entire problem, and that everything would be fixed the very first game JC coached.

Talk about putting words in other people's mouths..

 

[ChiHawks10]

Talk about putting words in other people's mouths..

Not really. Go look at your post that @RememberTheRoar quoted.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Except it is, when you factor in travel time, compacted schedules, etc. The Hawks might be getting a full practice in twice a week.

If they're lucky. Some are optional so guys don't go to them.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Not really. Go look at your post that @RememberTheRoar quoted.

Yeah, it totally says I expect JC to fix them the next day.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Yeah, it totally says I expect JC to fix then the next day.

It's implied that you were saying people expected things to be fixed quick.

 

[Pez68]

I don't see that, but I was including game day skates where they should be practicing anything new the coach wants to implement.

Open Practice Schedule

Nine practices in December. Yes, pretty much every Blackhawks' practice is open practice.

Again, morning skate is not a full practice. They are mainly just doing drills to stay sharp.... I do believe most of them are 20-30 minutes.

 

[Hawkaholic]

It's implied that you were saying people expected things to be fixed quick.

So it didn't actually say it and you are putting words in my mouth? Nothing was implied to day he should fix it the first game. I've said numerous times that I would give him 20-25 games to show some improvement. You see what you want to see.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I doubt any amount of practices will help that much. Yeah they’re learning a new system, but this roster up and down, just can’t compete.

I suspect we won’t be losing like this all season, but I’m not expecting some miracle run either. I’m guessing around 6 or 7th overall in the draft.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Open Practice Schedule

Nine practices in December. Yes, pretty much every Blackhawks' practice is open practice.

Again, morning skate is not a full practice. They are mainly just doing drills to stay sharp.... I do believe most of them are 20-30 minutes.

9 practices 10 games. And I was including game day skates where I am positive they work on a few things. So not too far off really.

 

[Pez68]

9 practices 10 games. And I was including game day skates where I am positive they work on a few things. So not too far off really.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/c...e-blackhawks-stand-eliminating-morning-skates

 

[Pez68]

I doubt any amount of practices will help that much. Yeah they’re learning a new system, but this roster up and down, just can’t compete.

I suspect we won’t be losing like this all season, but I’m not expecting some miracle run either. I’m guessing around 6 or 7th overall in the draft.

If you're thinking instead of doing...you're not competing. This is hockey.

 

[Hawkaholic]

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/c...e-blackhawks-stand-eliminating-morning-skates

Thats fine and dandy when you are a Cup contending team with a coach who has been there for a while.

When you have a new coach and you are in last place, you should be taking advantage of every minute you are on the ice with your players. If you aren't you aren't doing your job.

 

[BK]

Thats fine and dandy when you are a Cup contending team with a coach who has been there for a while.

When you have a new coach and you are in last place, you should be taking advantage of every minute you are on the ice with your players. If you aren't you aren't doing your job.

You have to balance it out. I have not heard of as many optional practices so far like we had with Q (this is not a bash on Q).

 

[Hawkaholic]

You have to balance it out. I have not heard of as many optional practices so far like we had with Q (this is not a bash on Q).

Yes, but I really don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they are working on things at morning day game skates. The PP is constantly being worked on every time they are on the ice.

All I am saying with all of this is, I expect to see even a slight improvement both on the ice and in the win column, improvement on the PP, and PK, and better roster management (specifically with younger kids in a development year), within the first 20-25 games of a new coach being implemented. I really don't believe that is too much to ask. I am willing to give JC more rope, I just have not been impressed so far, and I am skeptical if he is the right guy for the job. I will continue to be upset if he plays Manning more than Joker, or doesn't give Debrincat ice time like he did last night consistently. (no more 14min games).