Bill Peters Allegations - Update: Story corroborated, possible assault. (SEE MOD WARNING IN OP)

[DCDM]

They had a player’s coach with gulutzan and blew it.

This has to be last chancevile for this team. Regardless of them playing loose and having fun, if they can’t win then it really doesn’t matter in the end if they still suck.

I wasn't even talking about what kind of coach Ward is or might be. Or what kind of coach the Flames should go after. Was simply trying to show a glimmer of light amid an ugly last 48 hours.

I agree this is likely Treliving's last chance to hire a coach that works for this team. I don't expect them to find that person today, or tomorrow, or even for the rest of this season. Frankly I'm happy to give Ward the chance to run with it for now and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Anglesmith]

We have zero evidence with Peters because no one has stepped forward and can anyone blame them, as active players?

But we do know there were rumours swirling around about a divide between Peters and the players put forward by Friedman on the radio. And we've seen how their form completely nosedived after February.
I suspect this is something we won't definitively know for many years, if ever, but it's something Treliving needs to answer to internally at least.

No, but I mean players voluntarily stated the opposite. Not "no comment," but affirmative statements that they have seen nothing of the sort. So you're really jumping to conclusions about Treliving aiding and abetting abuse.

 

[DFF]

The players pretty much to a man claimed to never have seen any of this kind of behaviour from him. In fact, now that I think about it, Ryan saying that would kind of go against Jordan's testament.

Waiting for a good player to come out

Right now the best thing going for him is that these are sour grapes because they didn't make it

I am not saying that is right, just a possible escape for Peters

 

[MXD]

Waiting for a good player to come out

Right now the best thing going for him is that these are sour grapes because they didn't make it

I am not saying that is right, just a possible escape for Peters

Rod Brind'Amour is a HHOF candidate...

 

[tmurfin]

Waiting for a good player to come out

Right now the best thing going for him is that these are sour grapes because they didn't make it

I am not saying that is right, just a possible escape for Peters

Brind’Amour corroborated the physical altercation stuff. These would have to be the biggest group of “sour grapes” I’ve ever seen. There’s zero escape at this point, he’s cooked.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

On Michal Jordan’s accounts of physical altercations..

Also from yesterday



Props to people speaking out now, especially Brind’Amour, in the position he’s in. Goes to show how much of an open secret it actually was. At this point the dead horse is just getting battered, stick a fork in him.

Also explains why the Hurricanes weren't that sad when we essentially poached him.

 

[Calculon]

An insightful twitter thread from a guy who played with Akim some time ago

 

[InfinityIggy]

An insightful twitter thread from a guy who played with Akim some time ago

Just reading a lot of the replies on HF in regards to Aliu is enough to make any reasonable person understand why a player would be hesitant to speak out.

 

[Mobiandi]

No, but I mean players voluntarily stated the opposite. Not "no comment," but affirmative statements that they have seen nothing of the sort. So you're really jumping to conclusions about Treliving aiding and abetting abuse.

Do you really think it was appropriate for the organization to put Oliver Kylington in front of a camera and answer if he's been victim to racist behaviour or other abuses in the locker room?

And in this case, "no comment" is just as damning as a hardline statement confirming that there was toxic stuff going on behind the scenes. These kinds of things don't get spelled out in the media - for example, do you really still think Peters' fate hasn't been sealed and that Treliving is still investigating the matters with Aliu?

 

[The Rainman]

Once Peters is removed the Flames more than likely will get back to playing their game. Who knows what pressure Mony and Johnny and others have been playing under. I've posted on here before stating that Billy boy is nothing more than a assistant. He never made the playoffs with the Canes in 4 seasons. From there he coached at the Worlds and couldn't even bring home a bronze with that roster. He then went on to coach the Flames to a playoff spot after a great season only to be gone in a flash! Me thinks they were gone in four straight if I'm not mistaken. I think we might see a new Johnny and Mony. Bennett can breath a sigh of relief. I think the Flames fans still might get to see the team that they thought they were. Billy boy is gone!

 

[Calculon]

Meeting between NHL, Bill Peters ‘likely to occur’

As we wait for Calgary to finish its investigation into Bill Peters’ conduct, it appears the coach will also have to explain himself to the National Hockey League. The timing is dependent on the Flames’ own actions, but a face-to-face meeting with the league is, in the words of one source, “likely to occur.”

I don’t want to jump to any conclusions, but it should be noted that it does raise the possibility of league-mandated punishment in addition to anything Calgary does.

There is another part of this equation: who knew what, and when. Both Chicago (affiliated with Rockford) and Carolina will, at some point, have to explain more about what happened, how things were handled and why this information was not forwarded to future employers. In his tweets, Aliu alleged that Peters wrote a letter to team president John McDonough and GM Stan Bowman “to have me sent down to the ECHL.” No doubt the search is on for that.

It would be naive to think, as society changes, hockey won’t be forced to change along with it. What was acceptable from coaches years ago is no longer, and anyone who doesn’t adapt is going to be caught. Young players have more power than ever. Those getting to the end of their careers aren’t afraid to unburden themselves.

Everyone, at every level, is preparing for what’s next. We don’t know specifics, but nobody thinks this is the end.

 

[Flameshomer]

I am most sorry for thinking that this terrible play from the boys was the result of partying and poor motivation and focus when it is very quickly becoming clear that is not the case. In fact the stories of partying are probably because these guys are being put through a terrible situation at work.
Something we're not talking about is how, imo, the flames org has been promoting Peters as this great guy and great coach when it's really obvious now that's not at all the case. How can we trust in the process now?

 

[Oil Dood]

Is it possible that James Neal was playing so crappy for you guys because of Peters?

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Is it possible that James Neal was playing so crappy for you guys because of Peters?

There is a real possibility, yes. It'd be complete speculation, however.

 

[forecheck]

What is happening to Bill Peters is Wrong - Aliu is just looking for a payout -

What Peters did was wrong but his intent is unknown - Trying to be funny ?? I dont know

However Alius Actions are malicious in my opinion

 

[Ynnek]

What is happening to Bill Peters is Wrong - Aliu is just looking for a payout -

What Peters did was wrong but his intent is unknown - Trying to be funny ?? I dont know

However Alius Actions are malicious in my opinion

Can't say I agree with that logic but to each his own.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Is it possible that James Neal was playing so crappy for you guys because of Peters?

Well, it’s well documented Peters didn’t want to use Neal in the top six, and it’s somewhat documented Neal didn’t like that very much. Take from that what you will.

 

[Calculon]

What is happening to Bill Peters is Wrong - Aliu is just looking for a payout -

What Peters did was wrong but his intent is unknown - Trying to be funny ?? I dont know

However Alius Actions are malicious in my opinion

 

[crackdown44]

Haven’t read it yet will edit in my thoughts


Weird he doesn’t acknowledge the other stuff. I don’t know what to make of this really. Might be something to do with legal positioning. Odd that it was leaked

 

[Calculon]

Yeah, I don't buy it. According to Akim, Peters repeated his words in a meeting with him afterwards. And there was no mention of an apology by any other source.

Plus yeah, no mention of the abuse towards Jordan.

Francis' tweet implies Peters released the statement. Figures he would send it to Francis of all people.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Right. "Leaked"

 

[Mobiandi]

He knows how it's gonna end so he's not gonna resign and walk without a payout

 

[Calculon]

Francis being the go to media guy kind of says it all, doesn't it

 

[crackdown44]

Yeah just posturing at this point

 

[Mobiandi]

Of course it comes out during the game. Totally not timed like that on purpose