Bill Peters Allegations - Update: Story corroborated, possible assault. (SEE MOD WARNING IN OP)

[Mobiandi]

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Edit: Comments by Sean McMorrow
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https://www.tsn.ca/akim-aliu-speaks...lgary-flames-head-coach-bill-peters-1.1403974

Two of Aliu’s Rockford teammates who were in the room at the time of the alleged incident, Simon Pepin and Peter MacArthur, independently corroborated Aliu’s account to TSN on Tuesday.
"I think everyone should be held accountable for their actions or words spoken," Pepin said.
Aliu said Rockford team captain Jake Dowell later confronted Peters about the incident in the coach’s office. Dowell could not immediately be reached for comment.

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[InfinityIggy]

^ I am confused by this. Aliu wasn’t in YYC (or our AHL system) for his first Pro year, it was his 3rd or 4th year Pro. So what is he talking about?

 

[Mobiandi]

^ I am confused by this. Aliu wasn’t in YYC (or our AHL system) for his first Pro year, it was his 3rd or 4th year Pro. So what is he talking about?

I think he's referencing his time in the AHL in Rockford when Peters was head coach

 

[InfinityIggy]

I think he's referencing his time in the AHL in Rockford when Peters was head coach

Ah thanks. At first I thought he was talking about Hartley. Was very confused.

 

[Calculon]

Yikes

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Ah thanks. At first I thought he was talking about Hartley. Was very confused.

Hartley doesn't drop N bombs, he passes chocolate fumes.

 

[Fig]

Mike Keenan would never!

IMO, there's hard ass and then there's the mind game humiliation stuff. Jokinen's story mostly shows a hard ass type persona for Keenan that's mostly devoid of mind games but really freaking rough handling. But then there's the Marner story which just straight up sounds like it's something akin to hazing.

I have no idea where Hartley stood for this type of thing.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

That's... not ideal.

If corroborated, Peters is gonna be cancelled. Hell these days, maybe even if it isn't.

 

[Anglesmith]

I dunno. I find it a bit unlikely that a coach would risk his career by using language like that publicly. If that story is true, there would be nothing stopping Aliu from making a formal complaint and having Peters fired, and you would think he would given how serious of an incident that would be. There is no leniency on racist language in professional hockey. There would be plenty of witnesses to support him if it was done in the dressing room.

That said, there isn't really much reason for Aliu to make that up either.

 

[InfinityIggy]

I dunno. I find it a bit unlikely that a coach would risk his career by using language like that publicly. If that story is true, there would be nothing stopping Aliu from making a formal complaint and having Peters fired, and you would think he would given how serious of an incident that would be. There is no leniency on racist language in professional hockey. There would be plenty of witnesses to support him if it was done in the dressing room.

That said, there isn't really much reason for Aliu to make that up either.

Well, not to say Aliu is making it up. We need more information to draw any type of conclusions.

However, motivation to do so isn’t hard to find. He said himself he holds Peters responsible for being sent to the ECHL in his rookie year as a pro, and you get the impression Aliu feels this negatively impacted his career. People have been slandered for less.

 

[Calculon]

 

[Oil Dood]

I think Peters might be the next coach fired if these allegations are true.

 

[Mobiandi]

If this is true,

#1: It's sickening that a coach would use this kind of language in the first place
#2: It's just as disgusting that his teammates didn't do anything about it. Way to have his back

Peters'll have a chance to come clean to Treliving behind closed doors and if there's even a crumb of truth to these rumours he'll be fired. I think that even if they open an investigation, Peters will be placed on leave. There's been way too many distractions with the Flames this season

 

[FlamerForLife]

If this is true,

#1: It's sickening that a coach would use this kind of language in the first place
#2: It's just as disgusting that his teammates didn't do anything about it. Way to have his back

Peters'll have a chance to come clean to Treliving behind closed doors and if there's even a crumb of truth to these rumours he'll be fired. I think that even if they open an investigation, Peters will be placed on leave. There's been way too many distractions with the Flames this season

Agree, but I'd change coach to anyone in general.
If true, he should be relieved of his duties.

 

[Anglesmith]

Again, why does Aliu wait until the Babcock firing to fire this shot? It's a huge issue that he and everyone else completely ignored for years if true.

 

[Mobiandi]

Again, why does Aliu wait until the Babcock firing to fire this shot? It's a huge issue that he and everyone else completely ignored for years if true.

I don't think it's the Babcock firing. It's the fact that Marner recently came out and confirmed rumours of Babcock acting like a dickhead. That kind of thing can empower many to step forward and tell their stories.

You could just as easily ask why reporters sat on those Leafs stories for years. It's a culture thing

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Who you callin "you people"?
- somebody, probably

 

[Anglesmith]

I don't think it's the Babcock firing. It's the fact that Marner recently came out and confirmed rumours of Babcock acting like a ********. That kind of thing can empower many to step forward and tell their stories.

You could just as easily ask why reporters sat on those Leafs stories for years. It's a culture thing

I don't think the Marner thing is on the level of using the n-word.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I don't think the Marner thing is on the level of using the n-word.

No, but the overlap in the Venn diagram is "complete and utter a-hole"

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Who you callin "you people"?
- somebody, probably

I saw that on the tv after the game while I was making dinner and yelled that out

 

[crackdown44]

I mean you’d think if you ask a guy like Crawford who was on that team he’ll be able to give a clear answer

I get that a fringe guy might not want to stir the pot but he’s established and would have nothing to lose by telling the truth. Seems like a decent guy too

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

None of this surprises me, though all of it disappoints me. Peters' willingness to bury Kylington (zero PK, zero PP, buried for scrubs like Fantenberg or Stone, sent down for no reason earlier this year) makes that very clear.

 

[Mobiandi]

I don't think the Marner thing is on the level of using the n-word.

Well no, but by coming out with it now it also ensures the media and the powers that be take it seriously. As an isolated incident especially from a no-name journeyman player, this kind of thing could be easily swept under the rug. How many hazing/sexual assault allegations in junior leagues have we seen come and be forgotten in the blink of an eye?

 

[Anglesmith]

Well no, but by coming out with it now it also ensures the media and the powers that be take it seriously. As an isolated incident especially from a no-name journeyman player, this kind of thing could be easily swept under the rug. How many hazing/sexual assault allegations in junior leagues have we seen come and be forgotten in the blink of an eye?

John Vanbiesbrouck uttered the n-word to Trevor Daley and faced severe repercussions. That was in 2003. He ended up out of a job, and the team was leveled with a $50k fine.

 

[Iggys Dome]

I dunno. I find it a bit unlikely that a coach would risk his career by using language like that publicly. If that story is true, there would be nothing stopping Aliu from making a formal complaint and having Peters fired, and you would think he would given how serious of an incident that would be. There is no leniency on racist language in professional hockey. There would be plenty of witnesses to support him if it was done in the dressing room.

That said, there isn't really much reason for Aliu to make that up either.

I could see it. Not that I'm saying it definitely happened, but perhaps Peters tried to use it in a joking manner. Sort of like "Turn down that Racial Slur music" or "Who's playing this Racial Slur music?" That's literally the only context where I could see Peters use it and not get into trouble immediately, as Aliu was young and probably didn't know how to handle that at the time.

It's unfortunate that this is surrounding the team right now, and I'm sure there is gonna be investigation opened to see if any teammates on the Icehogs could corroborate Aliu's story.