TSN: Bergevin open to trading a forward.

[Baksfamous112]

Hextall should be all over this. To me, Sanheim should be made available. He's a LHD and young. For Sanheim the Flyers would want Gallagher back.

Sanheim doesn’t get you an autographed Gallagher stick.

 

[Baksfamous112]

I write on mobile too but I don't go around spewing things like Drouin being an elite center, or even one of the best forwards in the league because he's simply not. Drouin is a top-6 winger. That's what he is. He's not elite and he never will be -- and I know he's still young but I feel confident in that statement, too.

His best season came from playing on a stacked Tampa team where more than half of his points came on their potent powerplay. He's not a play driver.

Who do you think he's better than if you think he's "one of the best forwards in the league?" I'm genuinely curious.

Drouin is one of the most talented player in league. His skills are off the chart and you can easily see that when he’s on the ice. The problem is he hasn’t been able to turn that into production yet in his career.

I still give him this year and next to break out. If he can’t, then maybe I will be more inclined in listening to offers

 

[Paris in Flames]

Bergevin willing to trade a forward is like a man who has $50,000 of credit card debt being willing to pay for dinner.

 

[Kcb12345]

Honka+ for Drouin

 

[BatVader]

Habs aren’t trading Drouin.

 

[405Exit]

I write on mobile too but I don't go around spewing things like Drouin being an elite center, or even one of the best forwards in the league because he's simply not. Drouin is a top-6 winger. That's what he is. He's not elite and he never will be -- and I know he's still young but I feel confident in that statement, too.

His best season came from playing on a stacked Tampa team where more than half of his points came on their potent powerplay. He's not a play driver.

Who do you think he's better than if you think he's "one of the best forwards in the league?" I'm genuinely curious.

I’m not gonna sit here and argue over 20 forwards in the league trying to prove a point. I gave you my evaluation and that’s all that matters. Now if you want to discuss the trades people are offering we can do that. One leafs fan suggested Gardiner for Drouin which is fair value and I offer Fowler for Drouin straight up swap no adds no retention nothing.

Don’t derail the thread with petty balogne of getting a position wrong. I’ve already explained myself regarding him being capable of playing both positions.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I’m not gonna sit here and argue over 20 forwards in the league trying to prove a point. I gave you my evaluation and that’s all that matters. Now if you want to discuss the trades people are offering we can do that. One leafs fan suggested Gardiner for Drouin which is fair value and I offer Fowler for Drouin straight up swap no adds no retention nothing.

Don’t derail the thread with petty balogne of getting a position wrong. I’ve already explained myself regarding him being capable of playing both positions.

There's no derailing here because you're getting super sensitive over your evaluation of Drouin. he's a good top-6 player, but he's nowhere near elite and I think the window for him to reach elite status is dwindling.

Fowler for Drouin is something Anaheim doesn't do.

Gardiner for Drouin is something I wouldn't do as a Habs fan, but if the Gardiner+Nylander for Drouin+Petry offer from the first page was on the table I'd lean towards doing that depending on what Nylander's next contract looks like and as long as it wasn't ridiculous.

Like I said, though, Drouin isn't the name people should be talking about here. When Bergevin says he's going to trade a forward, it's going to be someone like Scherbak, Deslauriers or De la Rose and we'll get a 4th-6th round pick for it (maybe higher if it's Scherbak).

 

[LucicAndChong]

Your avatar is the face of every Habs fan when they read this offer.

I’ll be honest idk what the value of drouin is, my bad

 

[Kevin Musto]

Saad+ for Drouin

Stan get Bergevin on the phone!

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Pretty sure he’s trying to trade a 4th liner to make space rather than lose him on waivers.

Not trade one of the few talented forwards MTL has.

 

[theghost1]

Drouin is a great talent, no doubt about it. But he doesn't seem to fit the actual mold of the team.

Could he be disposible?? If so, i would try and solve our LHD issue by trading him. At the same time, i am ready to give him all the time he needs to reach his potential as the Habs are not going to be competitive this season and next's. So i would not sell him cheap and the return would need to be worth it.

Would something around him and Nurse be something workable?? I know Edmonton need more D not less but since they got Bouchard and there are rumblings about Nurse maybe being disponible??

Any other lhd from other teams that can fit in that kind of trade??


https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-habs-open-to-trading-a-forward-1.1190309

Drouin is not getting traded...period.

 

[xNogaitx]

I'd do 2 trades:

TOR:
Petry 2M retained by Mtl (3.5M AAV)
Drouin

MTL:
Nylander
Sandin
Horton

PHI:
Andrew Shaw
Scherbak

MTL:
Strome, Matthew
Flyers 2019 2nd rd pick
Flyers 2020 6th rd pick*

*Conditional to Shaw playing more than 40 games in 2018-2019.

Overall Montreal ends up with:
Nylander
Sandin
Strome
Flyers 2019 2nd rd pick
Flyers 2020 6th rd pick
2M in retained salary
LTIR Horton at 5.3M

They also drop 3 roster players as a net move, allowing them to be a 24 man roster once everyone is healthy. (They'll need to bury, waive, or trade again to fall under the 23 players limit.)

 

[Meeqs]

We have to keep in mind, while he is open to trading he is also awful at his job and has no idea how to do a proper trade so no one should be getting their hopes up

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I'd do 2 trades:

TOR:
Petry 2M retained by Mtl (3.5M AAV)
Drouin

MTL:
Nylander
Sandin
Horton

PHI:
Andrew Shaw
Scherbak

MTL:
Strome, Matthew
Flyers 2019 2nd rd pick
Flyers 2020 6th rd pick*

*Conditional to Shaw playing more than 40 games in 2018-2019.

Overall Montreal ends up with:
Nylander
Sandin
Strome
Flyers 2019 2nd rd pick
Flyers 2020 6th rd pick
2M in retained salary
LTIR Horton at 5.3M

They also drop 3 roster players as a net move, allowing them to be a 24 man roster once everyone is healthy. (They'll need to bury, waive, or trade again to fall under the 23 players limit.)

Toronto has no incentive to trade Horton because they, like the Habs, could afford to eat that deal. Toronto doesn't need to give up extra value to dump a bad contract.

 

[Duke Silver]

I'd do 2 trades:

TOR:
Petry 2M retained by Mtl (3.5M AAV)
Drouin

MTL:
Nylander
Sandin
Horton

Lol, Babs would HATE Drouin.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Drouin is one of the best centers in the league as well imo. If you’re trading for an elite center? You gotta trade an elite defenseman back.

It’s value for value. And what’s wrong with the deal? You didn’t explain what side of the fence you’re on

Elite centerman ?

what ? he's a winger

 

[Kent Nilsson]

Drouin is one of the best centers in the league as well imo. If you’re trading for an elite center? You gotta trade an elite defenseman back.

It’s value for value. And what’s wrong with the deal? You didn’t explain what side of the fence you’re on

I’m writing all this on mobile. Hes one of the best forwards in the league imo. And I’m willing to trade value for value. It’s funny you gotta nit pick someone getting a position wrong when that’s your only statement / argument.

Grow up

Drouin is capabable of playing both positions. He’s pretty much Nylander if you want to draw a line in the sand about it. That’s how I value him as anyway.

You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.

 

[xNogaitx]

Toronto has no incentive to trade Horton because they, like the Habs, could afford to eat that deal. Toronto doesn't need to give up extra value to dump a bad contract.

My understanding is that Toronto's real cap space isn't of 12M this year but rather closer to 6.5-8M due to bonuses and all that should be included in this year rather than next year's salary cap to prevent an even bigger cap hell with Marner & Matthews needing new deals + other roster players.

That also applies with the offseason cap hit which gets no deduction from the Horton contract. So to get rid of that contract + get a retained top 4 RHD would be a solid move cap wise.

 

[Willis88]

They are playing a style very similar to Vegas last year (aggressive on the forecheck, quick transition, etc.) and honestly, I have to admit that they are impressive.

Drouin is the only one that hasn't yet embrace that style. He often loses the puck by trying to beat everybody by himself instead of being at the service of his teammates.

I see. Thanks

 

[HomeAndHome]

Pretty sure he’s trying to trade a 4th liner to make space rather than lose him on waivers.

Not trade one of the few talented forwards MTL has.

Exactly, but it's not as interesting to talk about Sherbak as it is Gallagher/Drouin

 

[Captain Mountain]

Honka+ for Drouin

Haha, what?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I think Drouin is a perfect fit for a team like Colorado.

 

[Lemonlimey]

I think Drouin is a perfect fit for a team like Colorado.

reunite him with Mack

would cost Makar

 

[The Great Weal]

reunite him with Mack

would cost Makar

I doubt it would cost Makar.

 

[CupsOverCash]

If Im MB Im tanking hard this year. Sell off some guys.