Rumor: "Bergevin has been sniffing around to see what he can get for Plekanec"

[habsrule22]

something like Plekanec + 2 nd round pick for Perron and stewart then sign Vinny

 

[NotProkofievian]

I'd be pretty scared to see what happens to the Habs if Plekanec is gone. You for sure can't replace him with the incumbents. Even Eller is not close to ready to do all the things Pleks does. I guess if you could convince me we're going to pick up a strong replacement center elsewise, ok, but... who? Lecavalier doesn't do the things Pleks does, so I won't take him as the answer. Who else is there? Bolland?

I disagree. To me the only question mark about Eller is how he'll react to getting brained like he did. With the way Eller was developing last season and the playoffs, if he continues that progression, I think he's ready to take the next step. I don't think it would be seamless, but I do think he would adapt, and eventually flourish. As it stands currently, he's the only center we have who's capable of maintaining pressure at 5 on 5. This was clear to see in the Ottawa series. When Eller went down, our minutes in the playoffs were numbered. Plekanec and his line were futile.

And I don't see what there is to be scared of? A higher draft pick, and the assets that would come from a Plekanec trade? We'll be fine.

 

[Et le But]

I disagree. To me the only question mark about Eller is how he'll react to getting brained like he did. With the way Eller was developing last season and the playoffs, if he continues that progression, I think he's ready to take the next step. I don't think it would be seamless, but I do think he would adapt, and eventually flourish. As it stands currently, he's the only center we have who's capable of maintaining pressure at 5 on 5. This was clear to see in the Ottawa series. When Eller went down, our minutes in the playoffs were numbered. Plekanec and his line were futile.

And I don't see what there is to be scared of? A higher draft pick, and the assets that would come from a Plekanec trade? We'll be fine.

And if Eller is scared ****less when he comes back, Zednik style?

As good as Eller was at the end of the year, perhaps his worst game of the season was the one when Plekanec went down and he was immediately thrown into his role. Of course he adjusted after that, but Eller tended to be mentally effected by bad wingers more than Plekanec usually is. While I think Eller's injury is the main reason the wheels fell off in the playoffs, I don't think that's a sign that every C but Eller should be put on the bargain bin.

Well, I guess if that gamble doesn't pay off there's always McDavid..

 

[NotProkofievian]

And if Eller is scared ****less when he comes back, Zednik style?

As good as Eller was at the end of the year, perhaps his worst game of the season was the one when Plekanec went down and he was immediately thrown into his role.

Well, I guess if that gamble doesn't pay off there's always McDavid..

If he is scared ****less I don't think he'll be successful in his role as a 3C, and we'll have to cut our ties. In either case, the course of action that I would recommend is the same: see how Eller plays. If he continues his progression, then my idea would be to move Pleks.

I mean, I guess there's always the possibility of ending up with McDavid, horror of horrors.

 

[Et le But]

If he is scared ****less I don't think he'll be successful in his role as a 3C, and we'll have to cut our ties. In either case, the course of action that I would recommend is the same: see how Eller plays. If he continues his progression, then my idea would be to move Pleks.

I mean, I guess there's always the possibility of ending up with McDavid, horror of horrors.

The horror indeed.

But yeah, if Eller comes back a shell of himself it's another story entirely, because I don't actually believe that will happen, but going into next year with Eller as our only good defensively responsible D is kind of scary either way, and that says less about Eller than the makeup of the team overall.

 

[NotProkofievian]

The horror indeed.

But yeah, if Eller comes back a shell of himself it's another story entirely, because I don't actually believe that will happen, but going into next year with Eller as our only good defensively responsible D is kind of scary either way, and that says less about Eller than the makeup of the team overall.

Oh, I don't want to go into the season with only Eller. We have to see how he reacts. Maybe we shouldn't play him with Diaz. But I think you make a good point here. The makeup of our team is pretty far off the mark at this point. I think 3 years is optimistic to see us contending. A lot of work needs to be done, and Plekanec may not be nearly as useful by the time that's all done, and I question his purpose on a rebuilding team.

All in all, I think that the assets Plekanec can get us may turn out to be more useful, or at least better timed than Plekanec himself.

 

[HuGo Sham]

are people in this thread ****ing crazy? plekanecs is a top 20 center in the entire league based on two-way play. who's the center on the ice for the draw in our own zone with 30 secs left? who plays shutdown minutes Vs. opposing teams elite centers? who plays pp minutes before and after Desharnais shat the bed? Who's the center who kills 1st unit PK mins? and you want him gone? ANY move that does not address these points- if he is dealt -is a lateral move or downgrade.

Eller is NOT ready to replace him. Eller replaced Desharnais' ****** offensive play. You trade plekanecs, you better hope three things fall into place:

1) Vinny is signed
2) Desharnais is traded
3) a true shut down center who can play 1st unit PK mins + good in faceoffs is found. NOT a 4th line specialist

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Trade Plekanec for Stewart and the second deal that keeps getting tossed around here.

Than trade for Bolland. Offer the newly acquired second and a prospect that both sides find agreeable. Bolland is a winner, is a right handed centerman and has connections with Bergevin. Bolland replaces Plekanec's minutes and role. Stewart adds size, toughness and scoring.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Stewart
Bourque - Bolland - Gionta
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gallagher
Prust - White - Moen

 

[Banjo Cat]

Bolland replaces Plekanec's minutes and role. Stewart adds size, toughness and scoring.

Bolland replaces Plekanec? In what world is Bolland a suitable replacement for Plekanec?

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Bolland is a shutdown center that contributes offensively. Not at Plekanec's level of course but he's a playoff warrior (unlike Plekanec), a valuable right handed centerman, has good face-off percentage, and brings a winning attitude.

 

[Myron Gaines*]

I'd be absolutely fine with having Galchenyuk,Eller and Bolland as our top 3 centres in about 2 or 3 years, but Gally's not there yet and Eller has nothing but a break out season.

 

[Habiton]

are people in this thread ****ing crazy? plekanecs is a top 20 center in the entire league based on two-way play. who's the center on the ice for the draw in our own zone with 30 secs left? who plays shutdown minutes Vs. opposing teams elite centers? who plays pp minutes before and after Desharnais shat the bed? Who's the center who kills 1st unit PK mins? and you want him gone? ANY move that does not address these points- if he is dealt -is a lateral move or downgrade.

Eller is NOT ready to replace him. Eller replaced Desharnais' ****** offensive play. You trade plekanecs, you better hope three things fall into place:

1) Vinny is signed
2) Desharnais is traded
3) a true shut down center who can play 1st unit PK mins + good in faceoffs is found. NOT a 4th line specialist

This x1000000000000000000

Pleks is our MVP and trading him for anything but an overpayment will be a disaster.

This is the only trade I can think of:

Pleks for Bolland and Sharp/Saad

Even then I wouldn't be too sure.

 

[Habsurdities]

Plekanec is a coach's favourite. I doubt anything happens.

Yeah but the coach lost in 5 and Pleks disappeared, as usual during the playoffs.

 

[Rockettrudel]

This x1000000000000000000

Pleks is our MVP and trading him for anything but an overpayment will be a disaster.

This is the only trade I can think of:

Pleks for Bolland and Sharp/Saad

Even then I wouldn't be too sure.

Bolland + Sharp/Saad and you would't be sure ?

Bowman would not trade one of Sharp/Saad for Plekanec im sure.

 

[overlords]

Yeah but the coach lost in 5 and Pleks disappeared, as usual during the playoffs.

Besides Bourque, Pleks was our best forward in the playoffs unless you count the 5 or so minutes Eller got to play before getting knocked out. What playoffs were you watching?

 

[Seb]

Yeah but the coach lost in 5 and Pleks disappeared, as usual during the playoffs.

Oh my god go away

 

[Ezpz]

Yeah but the coach lost in 5 and Pleks disappeared, as usual during the playoffs.

Pleks disappeared? Did you even watch the playoffs this year?

 

[overlords]

Oh my god go away

You just summed up the last 3 days on this forum for me. Thank you.

 

[void]

Bolland replaces Plekanec? In what world is Bolland a suitable replacement for Plekanec?

In a world of someone who doesn't watch much hockey. Seems like a lot of people on HF live in that world..

 

[overlords]

In a world of someone who doesn't watch much hockey. Seems like a lot of people on HF live in that world..

PB is on a late night war path.

 

[NLHabsFan]

No way does Bolland replace Plekanec, and we won't be getting anyone back in a deal for him that could. Bolland would be an ideal #3 center though; RH shot, aggressive, takes a lot of draws (though not great at them) and strong defensively, being able to shadow top end forwards. I do like to see the GM gauging the market and constantly trying to improve the team.

IF Plekanec was to be traded what are the most realistic teams interested and what would you want back from them to make the deal? I see teams like the Blues, Hawks, Ducks, Lightning, Oilers, Jets, etc. The list can be quite big.

 

[Et le But]

You know what's hilarious? That Bolland is a "playoff warrior" who had 2 more points than Plekanec in 13 more games last year. In fact they have nearly identical playoff PPGs even with Bolland having an individually fantastic playoff run in 2010.

Now Bolland would be an awesome 3C behind Eller and DD/VINNY!!!1/Galchenyuk, but don't be surprised when he's no longer a "playoff warrior" on a worse team.

Besides Bourque, Pleks was our best forward in the playoffs unless you count the 5 or so minutes Eller got to play before getting knocked out. What playoffs were you watching?

He was very bad in the last game along with everyone else on the ice. Let's judge him based on that game.

 

[Maffew]

This. Plekanec is by far the best centre we've had since Koivu, bar none.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Yeah but the coach lost in 5 and Pleks disappeared, as usual during the playoffs.

If Pleks "disappeared" Pacioretty was a ghosts turd, trade him too?

 

[Banjo Cat]

Bolland is a shutdown center that contributes offensively. Not at Plekanec's level of course but he's a playoff warrior (unlike Plekanec), a valuable right handed centerman, has good face-off percentage, and brings a winning attitude.

Bolland is not a top 6 center. I would be open to moving Plekanec in the right deal. He has value and could help fetch something of value to us. But Bolland simply cannot be his replacement.