OT: Bears & NFL Talk 95

[Toews2Bickell]

There is really no defending Poles at this point

let king poles cook

 

[Praetorian Caps]

I generally wait at least three years before I say yay or nay on a GM but I've seen enough to know Poles isn't the the guy.

 

[Sarava]

I like Sweat, but this feels like a significant overpay.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

bears are really not in a position to pay an early 2nd for a guy that can force his way to ufa next year, if they tag him and he will not sign an extension then his value goes from early 2nd to a day 2 pick in a calendar year where they will still be a bad team most likely, massive downside deal, everything has to go right for the draft capital and contract to pay off, if he signs

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Fired in the middle of night, damn

McDaniels leaves another team in ruins as he gets kicked out the door after less than 2 years.

This should close door on McDaniels HC career

 

[HeisenBaez]

I like Montez Sweat and I don't hate the deal like others but I'm not exactly in love with it.

Look, Poles have made some questionable moves but trading for Sweat is not one of them (at least not yet). Can we tone down the Poles nagging for the time being?

But here's a crazy thought: what if trading for Sweat and keeping Jaylen Johnson means Coach Everlose is kept for a third year? I would be more piss about that than anything else.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Bears fire the running back coach

 

[HeisenBaez]

Bears fire the running back coach

For a human resource reason. Coach Everlose really knows how to pick them.

 

[ndgt10]

Problem now is Sweat's agent has Poles by the nuts knowing full well he has to sign him or risk looking like a complete dolt for throwing away a high 2nd rounder.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

How long until another team hires McDaniels as head coach despite the trifecta of hell red flags?

1) Pats coordinator,
2) Lousy head coaching record, and
3) Utterly torched the Colts after they hired him to such an unprofessional degree that his own agent dropped him like a sack of **** as a result.

I would've #3 especially would've precluded him from any HC gig forever, but a lot of NFL teams are clearly run by morons.

 

[HeisenBaez]

How long until another team hires McDaniels as head coach despite the trifecta of hell red flags?

1) Pats coordinator,
2) Lousy head coaching record, and
3) Utterly torched the Colts after they hired him to such an unprofessional degree that his own agent dropped him like a sack of **** as a result.

I would've #3 especially would've precluded him from any HC gig forever, but a lot of NFL teams are clearly run by morons.

Don't forget the Denver Broncos/Jay Cutler thing. McDaniels might have to go to college to get his next job.

 

[Romang67]

For a human resource reason. Coach Everlose really knows how to pick them.

I appreciate it when a coach checks every box on the fire-me list. Over his two seasons head coaching, there will have been turmoil in the locker room, a couple of assistant coaches have been let go for non-football related reasons, and the best QB he has beaten is (for all intents and purposes) rookie Sam Howell.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

is it true that the bears really traded for sweat and said they don't have a framework in place for a long term extension but will try...if so truly awful move by poles, like even if they get the extension done is still probably no good but potentially claypool bad if he just refuses to sign

 

[ClydeLee]

I thought when it was announced, it was tentative and though they were gonna do an extension. That's awful to just go with that.

 

[Romang67]

is it true that the bears really traded for sweat and said they don't have a framework in place for a long term extension but will try...if so truly awful move by poles, like even if they get the extension done is still probably no good but potentially claypool bad if he just refuses to sign

If he refuses to sign, it's still better than Claypool in hindsight.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

If he refuses to sign, it's still better than Claypool in hindsight.

turning early 2nd round picks into day two picks when you're like 3 years away from competing is idiotic, poles and eberflus are worse than pace and nagy by a lot ainec

I thought when it was announced, it was tentative and though they were gonna do an extension. That's awful to just go with that.

saw a tweet that they plan to make an effort to sign him lol, f***ing terrible from poles and co, and other teams only offered a 3rd

 

[Romang67]

turning early 2nd round picks into day two picks when you're like 3 years away from competing is idiotic, poles and eberflus are worse than pace and nagy by a lot ainec


saw a tweet that they plan to make an effort to sign him lol, f***ing terrible from poles and co, and other teams only offered a 3rd

Sure, if the team fail to sign or tag Sweat, turning an early 2nd into a comp 3rd, that would be really bad. Will that happen?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Sure, if the team fail to sign or tag Sweat, turning an early 2nd into a comp 3rd, that would be really bad. Will that happen?

what exactly is the upside in this deal when the team is probably 2-3 years from being a contender, even assuming he signs for 4-5 years, his best years will be when they're unlikely to be playing meaningful games...we know what the downside is, poles apparently doesn't but he probably knows he'll be canned if they're awful again next year so what does he care

 

[Romang67]

what exactly is the upside in this deal when the team is probably 2-3 years from being a contender, even assuming he signs for 4-5 years, his best years will be when they're unlikely to be playing meaningful games...we know what the downside is, poles apparently doesn't but he probably knows he'll be canned if they're awful again next year so what does he care

The upside would be to have a contender worthy edge in 2-3 years if that's when they hope to be a contender, no? Their line sucks, either hope to get an edge in FA or the draft, or get the more sure thing this way.

Is that the right thing to do, or should they have hoped that a FA is willing to sign with the Bears without their overpaying or hope they hit in the draft? Arguable. If you have no faith in Poles, or more faith in his drafting than his actual team building, the answer is obviously that he shouldn't have traded the 2nd rounder.

 

[ClydeLee]

Are they even gonna run a 4-3 next year for sure?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Are they even gonna run a 4-3 next year for sure?

Don’t think they even know who will be in charge

 

[belfour30]

Poles/Flus=Emery/Trestman


Whack them.

 

[TLEH]

shheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

 

[Giovi]

shheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

That fact makes this an incredibly bad trade.

And once again I'm left asking myself, why do I even care anymore?

 

[Mrfenn92]

shheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh