OT: Bears & NFL Talk 95

[ColbyChaos]

Can the Lions relocate to Chicago?

 

[HeisenBaez]

Can the Lions relocate to Chicago?

No thank you.
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Andrew Billings got a 2 year extension.

 

[BRayne]

No thank you.
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Andrew Billings got a 2 year extension.

$8.5million, $6million guaranteed

 

[Romang67]

Good, Billings has been great.

Dexter has been playing the same role, no?

 

[Illinihockey]

Good, Billings has been great.

Dexter has been playing the same role, no?

Dexter has mostly been the 3

 

[Scottkmlps]

Bears want you to trust what they say, not what you see, in season gone sideways

The Bears’ season has been rife with embarrassing losses and off-field snafus. But everything’s fine?

chicago.suntimes.com

“I get the question,” Poles said when asked why he still thinks Eberflus is the right coach. “I see his approach through adversity, [and] it is stable, man. And I know in the outside world it doesn’t look like that. And I know it looks like we’re far away. But this dude comes in every day and just keeps chipping away.

I'm shocked Poles didn't substitute "long" for "stable" there, in defense of his CEO-style HC.

That was the biggest pile of lies I've heard. To watch it and see the pause at the beginning of answering, to find and think about the words he is choosing carefully.

 

[Romang67]

If they get both JJ and Sweat signed/tagged, there is no way they stick with a QB they have to sign.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Extension everyone was waiting for

 

[Romang67]

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Extension everyone was waiting for

I unironically really like it. I like everything about Billings on the 1Tech spot. He stops the run, he's massive, he looks funny when he chases someone down. What's not to love? Sure, he doesn't get much QB pressure, but neither does anyone else on the D-line.

It's probably Poles best signing to date, and not just because the bar is so low.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I unironically really like it. I like everything about Billing on the 1Tech spot. He stops the run, he's massive, he looks funny when he chases someone down. What's not to love? Sure, he doesn't get much QB pressure, but neither does anyone else on the D-line.

It's probably Poles best signing to date, and not just because the bar is so low.

He’s not a liability rushing the passer. Can collapse the pocket with regularity.

 

[BRayne]

I unironically really like it. I like everything about Billings on the 1Tech spot. He stops the run, he's massive, he looks funny when he chases someone down. What's not to love? Sure, he doesn't get much QB pressure, but neither does anyone else on the D-line.

It's probably Poles best signing to date, and not just because the bar is so low.

The time where he subbed in late and had to sprint in from the sideline as the play began was one of the most fun things to happen this season.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Hmm

So the Bears get an elite talent in Sweat, who has been durable and rarely misses games, for a draft pick that what, has an 80% chance of not being a player as good as him?

All this while the Bears have cap space to burn and people are actually saying Sweats gonna take Poles to the cleaners when they currently have the most cap space avalible in 2024.

And now it comes out the Commanders were leary in giving out Youngs medicals, and let's just point out he hasn't played more then 15 games but once in his career, and what the Bears did is bad?

Good lord. Let's just silently point out how the Hawks dole out contracts to washed up has beens and how great it is yet here Poles goes out and get impact players starting their prime for draft picks and how horribly wrong it is.....

 

[Idionym]

Hmm

So the Bears get an elite talent in Sweat, who has been durable and rarely misses games, for a draft pick that what, has an 80% chance of not being a player as good as him?

All this while the Bears have cap space to burn and people are actually saying Sweats gonna take Poles to the cleaners when they currently have the most cap space avalible in 2024.

And now it comes out the Commanders were leary in giving out Youngs medicals, and let's just point out he hasn't played more then 15 games but once in his career, and what the Bears did is bad?

Good lord. Let's just silently point out how the Hawks dole out contracts to washed up has beens and how great it is yet here Poles goes out and get impact players starting their prime for draft picks and how horribly wrong it is.....

These are just not remotely comparable situations in the slightest. It's certainly not an insane take to like the trade, but you definitely don't need to reach this hard to support your point.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

These are just not remotely comparable situations in the slightest. It's certainly not an insane take to like the trade, but you definitely don't need to reach this hard to support your point.

I forget that both teams are rebuilding...

One team is bringing in elite talent to move up faster in their rebuild while the other is trading away elite talent for magic beans. Elite talent that would have looked great playing with a generational talent.

Let's just point out- Sweat will be a better player then whomever Wash takes with that second rounder while Debrincat and Hagel will be better then whomever Davidson takes with those draft picks.

 

[clydesdale line]

I forget that both teams are rebuilding...

One team is bringing in elite talent to move up faster in their rebuild while the other is trading away elite talent for magic beans. Elite talent that would have looked great playing with a generational talent.

Let's just point out- Sweat will be a better player then whomever Wash takes with that second rounder while Debrincat and Hagel will be better then whomever Davidson takes with those draft picks.

Just like Claypool would be better than whatever second rounder (only turned into 32nd pick cuz of forfeited pick) Steelers pick with that right..... (Joey Porter Jr. is pretty good)

Sweat.. an edge rusher.. the guy whose career high of sacks in a season is 9 an "elite talent". You can't make this stuff up.

 

[ndgt10]

I forget that both teams are rebuilding...

One team is bringing in elite talent to move up faster in their rebuild while the other is trading away elite talent for magic beans. Elite talent that would have looked great playing with a generational talent.

Let's just point out- Sweat will be a better player then whomever Wash takes with that second rounder while Debrincat and Hagel will be better then whomever Davidson takes with those draft picks.

Could have signed him in off-season without giving away a 2nd.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Just like Claypool would be better than whatever second rounder (only turned into 32nd pick cuz of forfeited pick) Steelers pick with that right..... (Joey Porter Jr. is pretty good)

And that means what, exactly, with this year's pick?

Sweat.. an edge rusher.. the guy whose career high of sacks in a season is 9 an "elite talent". You can't make this stuff up.

Lol wat?

Bears' Montez Sweat trade helps answer key question about GM Ryan Poles' plan

Montez Sweat is exactly the type of player the Bears have been missing. Elite players at premium positions aren’t often available and you have to pay the tax for that kind of upgrade. Ryan Poles showed he was willing to do that with a move for the long-term Tuesday.

www.google.com

Washington Football Team: Montez Sweat establishing elite status

Montez Sweat is having an incredible year for the Washington Football Team and it's time to start calling the 2019 first-round pick elite.

nflspinzone.com

How Montez Sweat's team molded a 'freak' into an elite prospect

Sweat's record-setting performance at the combine helped transform him from a late-first-round prospect into a top-15 one. Here's how he and his team did it.

www.google.com

Could have signed him in off-season without giving away a 2nd.

And now they can tag him and get time to extend him.

 

[clydesdale line]

Lol then he sites a Chicago media outlet, nflspinzone (which is the equivalent to mlbtraderumors and hockeybuzz) and an ESPN article from 4 YEARS AGO from the combine... I can not stop laughing, cute attempt though. @JFieldsOverBedard

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Yeah this guy on The Athletic posted this just a couple days ago.....

 

[clydesdale line]

All of those guys have had 10+ sacks in a season(s) before, hell all of them 12+. Talk to me when Sweat eclipses 10+ in a season (he finally may actually do that this season) yet alone 12+. Cherry picking an article for 5+ sacks... "elite" production.

 

[Romang67]

Could have signed him in off-season without giving away a 2nd.

That's quite the assumption, given that Atlanta had a conditional 2nd on the table (2nd if Sweat signed), and 6+ teams were rumored to be in on Sweat half a week before the deadline.

Sweat wasn't hitting free agency.

 

[plasmonresonance]

That's quite the assumption, given that Atlanta had a conditional 2nd on the table (2nd if Sweat signed), and 6+ teams were rumored to be in on Sweat half a week before the deadline.

Sweat wasn't hitting free agency.

Agreed. If you look at the list of free agent defensive ends signed in the last couple of years, there's nobody as talented as Sweat; maybe a couple you could argue would be upgrades to D Walker but that's it.

I completely understand and would agree with those disliking the trade from the asset management standpoint. But at somepoint the Bears have got to get players who pressure the QB. Filling that immediate need through the draft with anybody nearly as good as Sweat is highly unlikely (Garrett, Mack, Watt, Burns all 1st round picks, Jones at #37). Besides, the Bears have other needs that must be addressed in the draft (QB?, WR?, DB/S, O-line).

 

[Idionym]

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1720846106530078997?s=46&t=F3iYofSzpYNAZkk_Yb30gA

 

[Mrfenn92]

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1720846106530078997?s=46&t=F3iYofSzpYNAZkk_Yb30gA

Good to see

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Poles got bent over

Brutal overpayment paying him elite $