Confirmed with Link: Avs sign Ryan Murray (One year, $2M)

[S E P H]

Even though Graves rightfully stepped back offensively last season, I would still put him higher on the offensive category than Murray, but Ryan beats him on everything else including decisions with the puck. I love this signing, but he is also one hit away of being out for a good four to six weeks as well.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Murray vs Graves

Who would you say is better?

Murray can clear a puck on the PK

 

[AvsFan29]

Really like this signing. Murray is exactly what this team needed.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Suddenly our D is a lot stronger than in the playoffs…

2020-2021 Playoffs:

Toews - Makar
Graves - Girard
Nemeth - Timmins

vs…

2021-22 Regular Season:

Toews - Makar
Murray - Girard
Byram - Johnson

Let’s see if they can remain healthy. It’s a top 5 D corps in the league.

Optimistic NEB: the 3 Mc and Macs are a decent 7 through 9 after that upgraded D.

Pessimistic NEB: EJ and Byram were already on the roster last year and didn't play in the playoffs. Are the assorted Macs and Mcs better than Nemeth Timmins?

 

[larueskee]

I assume you don’t approve?

Have you seen Murry's d? Look it just seems bizarre the randomness of the moves made Sakic over his defense these past few years. Another lefty to play the right side? Seriously what has Sakic seen that makes him think this would be a improvement over Cole? What have any of you seen that makes you think this is a upgrade? It just gets back to what I have been saying for a while now. I know he is only signed for the year but you guys will run him out of town as quick as you ran Graves, Cole, Zadorov, Nemeth twice, when the guys the Avs need to run out of town would be Girard and EJ. Getting rid of one of those 2 and you might see some cap savings as well. To me it is just like going in circles but hey that is Girards specialty and the team thinks thats great too,

 

[Bensch88]

I’d rather we roll with our all time D.

Zanon - Hunwick
Holden - Guenin
Briebrois - Orr’brien

These were dark dark days

 

[Foppa2118]

Have you seen Murry's d? Look it just seems bizarre the randomness of the moves made Sakic over his defense these past few years. Another lefty to play the right side? Seriously what has Sakic seen that makes him think this would be a improvement over Cole? What have any of you seen that makes you think this is a upgrade? It just gets back to what I have been saying for a while now. I know he is only signed for the year but you guys will run him out of town as quick as you ran Graves, Cole, Zadorov, Nemeth twice, when the guys the Avs need to run out of town would be Girard and EJ. Getting rid of one of those 2 and you might see some cap savings as well. To me it is just like going in circles but hey that is Girards specialty and the team thinks thats great too,

I haven't followed Murray closely recently, but if he's still fairly mobile, that should make him a much better fit than Cole in the Avs system.

Cole was really struggling with the Avs his last year and change. He just couldn't skate well enough to play Bednar's up tempo system, and this caused him to make tons of mistakes.

He also just stopped blocking shots as much for some reason in the bubble during the playoffs, which is one of his biggest contributions.

 

[AvsCOL]

Murray is a really nice fit. He's a lefty but he does exactly what the Avs were missing. Can play big minutes if needed, and kill penalties. Good skater too. Injuries are the obvious concern.


Now go get a middle six winger and I'll shut up

 

[Freudian]

Have you seen Murry's d? Look it just seems bizarre the randomness of the moves made Sakic over his defense these past few years. Another lefty to play the right side? Seriously what has Sakic seen that makes him think this would be a improvement over Cole? What have any of you seen that makes you think this is a upgrade? It just gets back to what I have been saying for a while now. I know he is only signed for the year but you guys will run him out of town as quick as you ran Graves, Cole, Zadorov, Nemeth twice, when the guys the Avs need to run out of town would be Girard and EJ. Getting rid of one of those 2 and you might see some cap savings as well. To me it is just like going in circles but hey that is Girards specialty and the team thinks thats great too,

You had me at Cole.

 

[avsfan9]

Now we acquire another RFA with some potential.

Max Domi??? Potential- check, blue jacket - check, cheap contact- check

 

[Cousin Eddie]

 

[Metallo]

It sure is nice to have an NHL farm team.

 

[Metallo]

Max Domi??? Potential- check, blue jacket - check, cheap contact- check

5.3M$ is cheap?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

5.3M$ is cheap?

He also said he has potential. Perhaps he’s talking about somebody else.

 

[avsfan9]

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I ndidnt know he was that poor of a player. He’s really went down hill since he left the habs.

 

[Metallo]

He also said he has potential. Perhaps he’s talking about somebody else.

Yes, potential to not be worth 5.3M$.

 

[avsfan9]

Yes, potential to not be worth 5.3M$.

I didn’t do any research. I assumed he wasn’t making that much

 

[AvsFan29]

He also said he has potential. Perhaps he’s talking about somebody else.

I’d rather grab Drouin than Domi, and I’d be pissed if we grabbed Drouin.

 

[Parks]

I know he is only signed for the year but you guys will run him out of town as quick as you ran Graves, Cole, Zadorov, Nemeth twice, when the guys the Avs need to run out of town would be Girard and EJ. Getting rid of one of those 2 and you might see some cap savings as well. To me it is just like going in circles but hey that is Girards specialty and the team thinks thats great too,

I agree with EJ, he hasn't been an impact player for a long time. I would be happy just getting some quality PK time from him before he gets hurt. Not exactly what you would normally expect from your second highest paid def. I'm not ready to give up on Girard yet but he needs to prove to be better in the def zone. He had a rough time in the playoffs.

 

[Richard88]

Have you seen Murry's d? Look it just seems bizarre the randomness of the moves made Sakic over his defense these past few years. Another lefty to play the right side? Seriously what has Sakic seen that makes him think this would be a improvement over Cole? What have any of you seen that makes you think this is a upgrade? It just gets back to what I have been saying for a while now. I know he is only signed for the year but you guys will run him out of town as quick as you ran Graves, Cole, Zadorov, Nemeth twice, when the guys the Avs need to run out of town would be Girard and EJ. Getting rid of one of those 2 and you might see some cap savings as well. To me it is just like going in circles but hey that is Girards specialty and the team thinks thats great too,

Are you seriously arguing that Cole is better than Murray?

 

[larueskee]

I haven't followed Murray closely recently, but if he's still fairly mobile, that should make him a much better fit than Cole in the Avs system.

Cole was really struggling with the Avs his last year and change. He just couldn't skate well enough to play Bednar's up tempo system, and this caused him to make tons of mistakes.

He also just stopped blocking shots as much for some reason in the bubble during the playoffs, which is one of his biggest contributions.

Cole Blocked 29 shots in 15 games which is about his average and second to Graves who had a even more impressive 37 in the bubble. Both EJ and Zadorov had 16 blocked shots. Makar had 14 and Girard 11.
I don't know how you could say he was struggling with the Avs last year as he only played in 2 games with the Avs. One of those games was a 8-0 waxing over the Blues and the other was a 4-1 loss. He was a minus one in the loss while Timmons was minus 3, Girard and Graves both minus 2. Last year Cole blocked more shots than any Av in far less minutes played. Ryan Graves blocked 3 fewer shots than Cole. Now lets talk about mistakes. During Coles last full year with the Avs he finished plus 21 which put him at 10th in the league for defensemen. He is usually at the top of the league in this stat so how someone can randomly say he makes mistakes is not making sense. He was plus 2 in his 15 playoff games with the Avs last year and plus 6 the year prior with he Avs. Now it would be a little hard to play up tempo when a man short but again when blocking shots you sometimes aren't on your skates.Cole's 26 points playing mostly shut down minutes during his last full year would indicate just the opposite of what you think you are seeing.

 

[larueskee]

Are you seriously arguing that Cole is better than Murray?

Umm Cole got one year at 2.9 million, Murry got one year at 2 million. So seriously yes I am and i would bet the GMs in the league think so as well.

 

[Islay1989]

Cole Blocked 29 shots in 15 games which is about his average and second to Graves who had a even more impressive 37 in the bubble. Both EJ and Zadorov had 16 blocked shots. Makar had 14 and Girard 11.
I don't know how you could say he was struggling with the Avs last year as he only played in 2 games with the Avs. One of those games was a 8-0 waxing over the Blues and the other was a 4-1 loss. He was a minus one in the loss while Timmons was minus 3, Girard and Graves both minus 2. Last year Cole blocked more shots than any Av in far less minutes played. Ryan Graves blocked 3 fewer shots than Cole. Now lets talk about mistakes. During Coles last full year with the Avs he finished plus 21 which put him at 10th in the league for defensemen. He is usually at the top of the league in this stat so how someone can randomly say he makes mistakes is not making sense. He was plus 2 in his 15 playoff games with the Avs last year and plus 6 the year prior with he Avs. Now it would be a little hard to play up tempo when a man short but again when blocking shots you sometimes aren't on your skates.Cole's 26 points playing mostly shut down minutes during his last full year would indicate just the opposite of what you think you are seeing.

You know who blocks a lot of shots? Talentless pylons who can't play the puck.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

You know who blocks a lot of shots? Talentless pylons who can't play the puck.

You mean like Ryan McDonagh and Victor Hedman?

 

[Islay1989]

You mean like Ryan McDonagh and Victor Hedman?

Yes, obviously. When your only redeeming feature is flopping around the ice pretending you're the goalie I'd rather you play on the other team.