Rumor: AVS Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics)

[Drury_Sakic]

Zadorov has gone down to SA with a great attitude. I call BS on the flight risk stuff.

Enough with trading with Zadorov or Bigras. Did you not hear Sakic talk? Top 4 defensemen don't get traded. We've been looking for one for years and can't get one. The only way to get them is to develop them or trade for them while they're young. 16 of the top 20 scoring D were drafted and developed by the team they're playing for.

Yes....and no. EJ says hello. (Avs gave up a relative lot to get him, but none of those pieces have come even close to being worth what EJ is to the Avs) As do Nick Leddy and John Boychuck. (both traded for peanuts btw in relative compare to their value)

Travis Harmonic is going to be traded. Keith Yandle also got traded and may be traded again. Dion Phaneuf was given away basically.

Seth Jones....Hamilton.... bit more costly guys, but both should prove their worth.


And I am sure I am missing at least a handful more from the last 5-6 years.

Are the all #1 d men, no...do some have flaws, yes.. were some overpaid for, maybe....but the market IS there and some DO get traded for fair or under market value. Plus given the cap issues of a few teams out there, the Avs have to at least be making phone calls on it... Just think if the Avs had gotten one of Boychuk or Leddy a few years ago.

Not saying it is 100% the right call.... or that it will happen, just it COULD be a big win if they keep their options open over the summer.

There are always one or two guys traded each summer that no one really thought was on the market, and they usually go for less than the perceived value.....and given the cap this summer, we could see more than normal.... It would be nice to see the Avs on the winning end of one of these offseason deals.

 

[CB Joe]

Why the hell would they do that?

Bigras and Zadorov are both very raw. The front office might not like the idea of having to rely on both next season. But both Zadorov and Bigras are also at the point that they are good enough to play in the NHL.

If the cap drops or stagnates you could potentially find a team willing to move a young but more seasoned defenseman in exchange for a good defensive prospect.

I'm not saying it will happen but I wouldn't be shocked if one of them were traded.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Bigras and Zadorov are both very raw. The front office might not like the idea of having to rely on both next season. But both Zadorov and Bigras are also at the point that they are good enough to play in the NHL.

If the cap drops or stagnates you could potentially find a team willing to move a young but more seasoned defenseman in exchange for a good defensive prospect.

I'm not saying it will happen but I wouldn't be shocked if one of them were traded.

I would be. They can't just go down to Walmart to get NHL ready D prospects.

I get what you are saying, an equal quality swap because of the cap, but that's still an unlikely scenario.

 

[cgf]

I would be. They can't just go down to Walmart to get NHL ready D prospects.

Of course they can. Or have you forgotten how many top pairing and top 4 prospects we've had these past 10 years?...

 

[tucker3434]

At least one will be traded this summer.

Which one? The one that Roy's actually trusting in the NHL this year or the one they traded for last offseason?

I'd be absolutely shocked if either of those guys moved.

 

[Avalanche2133]

Not sure it's been posted here yet but last night Dater was saying he was hearing John Mitchell's name being tossed around. However we are lacking forward depth scoring and Mitchell's been fine if they keep him as 4C. Only way it makes sense is if we are upgrading for a even better forward. But then who would be our new 4C?

 

[agentblack]

Not sure it's been posted here yet but last night Dater was saying he was hearing John Mitchell's name being tossed around. However we are lacking forward depth scoring and Mitchell's been fine if they keep him as 4C. Only way it makes sense is if we are upgrading for a even better forward. But then who would be our new 4C?

Wagner probably. If its possible they are getting offers for Mitchell (cause I doubt they are shopping him) I bet its for a pick and thats it. Then they call put Wagner in the 4C spot and maybe swap Martinsen and Rantanen.

 

[CB Joe]

I like Mitchell a lot but if he's going to be the 4th line centre he's getting paid too much. I can see the Avs going with Wagner to finish the season and in the off-season get someone else for under $1m.

 

[CB Joe]

I would be. They can't just go down to Walmart to get NHL ready D prospects.

I get what you are saying, an equal quality swap because of the cap, but that's still an unlikely scenario.

I don't think it will be that unlikely. Look at Anaheim for example. They have Bieksa, Fowler, Stoner, and Despres under contract for about $15m annually for the following two seasons. That's actually pretty good but you have to keep in mind that Anaheim is a budget team and that Lindholm and Vatanen are in for sizeable raises and the Ducks have Theodore waiting to get in full time. There is a very good chance that Anaheim will trade a good young defenseman this off-season. They might be more inclined to trade a defenseman if they get a young cheap and promising defensive prospects in return. That way they don't create a hole in the future while saving money in the short term. But maybe they would want a forward instead. Just an idea.

 

[cgf]

The ducks will trade Vatanen, who we don't need unless we can't re-sign Barrie...in which we sure as hell can't give up Zads or Biegs.

 

[The Abusement Park]

So what are everyones thoughts on trading for Matthias? Does that mean Mitchell may be on the way out?

 

[CB Joe]

He could just be for more winger depth but I guess there was a Dater rumour that Mitchell's name is out there, so maybe it's just the first step in another swap.

If the Avs move Mitchell it's a contract off the books for next season. $1.8m is a bit steep for a 4th liner too.

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

Guessing Mitchell doesn't move.

3rd+Siemens/Geertsen+Bodnarchuck/Redmond/Gormley/Guenin for an upgrade a D.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

If we could add a middle pairing LHD and somehow get Tanguay out of the lineup and replace him with Rantanen I think this team could battle to take a playoff series to 6 or 7 games which would be a very successful season IMO.

 

[shadow1]

I've always liked Mitchell but he's struggled this season. It's not his job to score, but when playing over 15 minutes per night, he should have better numbers. He's got 9 goals, but keep in mind he had 4 goals the first 4 games of the season.

In calendar year 2016, Mitchell has 1 goal and 3 assists in 23 games.

I hope they don't trade him but I will understand why if they do. He's still a good PKer.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Guessing Mitchell doesn't move.

3rd+Siemens/Geertsen+Bodnarchuck/Redmond/Gormley/Guenin for an upgrade a D.

I agree with both of these.

Mitchell won't get traded, and I'd bet the rental D comes from Siemens + 3rd.

 

[cgf]

I'm just bummed we couldn't dump Redmond on the leafs.

 

[Foppa2118]

I agree with both of these.

Mitchell won't get traded, and I'd bet the rental D comes from Siemens + 3rd.

That Siemens + 3rd deal has always been my guess too.

Not sure on Mitchell though. Seems an odd name for Dater to throw out in a rumor, and it was before the Matthias deal was announced. I've had a feeling they might move him before next season anyway. There's only so many players on the roster that are moveable really, and he carries a small amount of value because of how cheap his cap hit is.

If they do move him, it's not because they want to get rid of him, it's because another team is asking for him in a deal they want to make.

 

[hughdreamz]

A 3rd + Siemens for a D rental would be disappointing. I feel we could get more than a rental for that.

 

[Foppa2118]

A 3rd + Siemens for a D rental would be disappointing. I feel we could get more than a rental for that.

You might be able to get someone they have interest in re-signing.

Siemens, even though he's still got a shot at making the NHL, has lost a considerable amount of value since being drafted.

 

[RockLobster]

You might be able to get someone they have interest in re-signing.

Siemens, even though he's still got a shot at making the NHL, has lost a considerable amount of value since being drafted.

And he's not playing. May not be traded unless it's to a team who has had their eye on him for a while and 100% believe he'll be fine (recovering from injury).

 

[Shaggy88]

Really don't see Mitchell getting traded. His name might be out there to gauge his value. Can't see the Avs making a move to improve the bottom 6 to turn around and make a move that worsens it. If it's a Mitchell trade, it needs to be a clear upgrade.

 

[agentblack]

Like I was saying in another thread. I think its more likely teams are asking us about Mitchell not the other way around. And once that happens the player's name is officially "out there" regardless of who started the ball rolling.

Roy loves him some Mitch, so unless a good return is coming back they arent moving him...imo.

 

[CB Joe]

Do we have an updated list on who's been scouting the avs lately?

 

[Shaggy88]

Like I was saying in another thread. I think its more likely teams are asking us about Mitchell not the other way around. Roy loves him some Mitch, so unless a good return is coming back they arent moving him...imo.

My thoughts as well.