dahrougem2
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And whoever they make that trade with will be extremely disappointed.
I've never been high on Strome. Have not and still do not expect him to be anything more than a 50 point centre as a ceiling.
And whoever they make that trade with will be extremely disappointed.
I still am high on Sergachev. AZ has a lot of prospects but for one reason or another the ones they have tend to not be the ones that I'm big on.
I'd be more worried about overpaying Kulikov as an UFA. I think you can rest easy as far as him being a trade target. If this season teaches the FO anything, it's that they ain't dealing prospects and picks for rentals this deadline. We can at least breathe easy as far as that goes.
Me too TV. I think I'd rather him than Hanifin. Not because he's better. But because I think the difference between the two is not much and the things added to Sergachev to get Duchene will likely be far greater than whatever is added to Hanifin which might be nothing at all.
I'd much rather the Avs target a guy who they think can reasonably be the best player, even if they get less overall value. If they believe that Hanifin reasonably projects to an EJ level player, while Sergachev reasonably projects to a 2/3 sort... I'm not sure if there is enough Montreal could reasonably offer for me to take that downgrade.
I'd agree if I saw that much difference in those two players. I don't though. I really like Sergachev.
Which is fine. I'm not in the Sergachev boat and never really have been. Boatloads of talent, but I'm skeptical if he will ever put it together and I see a very 'junior' sort of game. I'd take McAvoy over Sergachev straight up... thought that since last season.
Same here. The point about his game being "junior" is a great one. I really don't expect Sergachev to ever come close to fulfilling his potential.
Give me Chabot or McAvoy easily over him.
And IMO Hanifin is even a step above those guys to me.
You could offer me 4 late 1sts + Sergachev and I would still take Hanifin over him just because of how different I value those two...
I don't really understand this. I mean I get we all have different opinions but you are in the want D badly camp and Sergachev would satisfy that. But yet I don't like Liljegren and that's made out to be silly because we should draft D no matter what because he's the highest D prospect supposedly and we can't pass that up but Sergachev isn't good enough.
I don't really understand this. I mean I get we all have different opinions but you are in the want D badly camp and Sergachev would satisfy that. But yet I don't like Liljegren and that's made out to be silly because we should draft D no matter what because he's the highest D prospect supposedly and we can't pass that up but Sergachev isn't good enough.
On another note, what is Arizona doing today? Why do they want Mitch Moroz? I can understand unloading Peters.
And LA called LaDue up. If he's in the lineup tonight...
Does Shattenkirk have any connections here (other than former teammates)? Does he live in Denver in the offseason?
McKenzie once again says he's led to believe the Avs are an organization Shattenkirk would look favorably on going back to. I don't understand why the team that might be the furthest away from being a contender is one he'd want to play for.
Meh, I wouldn't want to sign Shattenkirk for anything over 5.5M per season. And if somehow he did sign here for that or less, you'd have to move Barrie.
I just don't see it. And we damn sure better not actually trade for him.
I'd be perfectly fine paying Shatty $6m and trading away Barrie. Barrie is more dynamic 5v5, but is more limited defensively and doesn't approach what Shatty can do on the PP. I don't think any of that will happen though.
I really like Barrie but I also liked Shatty so I could get on board with that under certain circumstances.
Those circumstances are unrealistic though:
-Shattenkirk signing for 6M or less (will never happen)
-He has to sign in UFA (really don't want to trade anything for him right now. We don't have any expendable pieces that would be worth it to the Blues
-The return for Barrie would have to be great. I am talking Puljujarvi and not RNH.
I don't make that "swap" if RNH is the one coming back.
If that happens, I would absolutely do it.
I mean I would probably even sign Shattenkirk for 6M period.
Having EJ, Barrie and Shattenkirk as your 3 RHDs is not the worst thing that could happen. Can always trade one of EJ, Shatty or Barrie later if the need arises. Shatty @ 6M wouldn't be a bad contract and with the amount of capspace the Avs have in a weak UFA year, that would be a huge win.
But I am pretty sure that the only way he would take a discount is if the Rangers are calling...
I think it's a little too early to know what Shattenkirk's market will be...and if the cap is flat (or even reduces a little), that will impact how many teams can actually vie for his services.
The flat cap will probably keep the bidding at bay for Shatty (I think his max is 6.5, but more likely he caps at $6m). The Avs will have plenty of room and space for him to play a big role.
Yeah it would have to come in the summer, but it doesn't have to be UFA. Say Shatty gets traded as a rental, come draft day a conditional pick trade ala Yandle wouldn't be a bad option (and by that point the Avs would know his interest with the interview period).
Even if the return was say RNH. This would be the swap the Avs would be looking at: Barrie + 4th + 6th for Shatty + RNH... that is a huge win all around, and I believe Barrie would get more of a return than that. In a RNH-Barrie trade, Edmonton would be sending more to the Avs.
Would be interesting to know if the Avs keep scouting the Reign now that LaDue is up with the Kings...