Rumor: Avs Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents 18-19 part XXXVII | Everyone is pessimistically optimistic

[CoachBadkitten]

I'd rather dramatically overpay Lee than dramatically overpay Ferland or Dzingel.

 

[Foppa Frossa]

That depends on who is the better skater between Jost and Newhook.

I more meant develop that position internally rather than pay big bucks for an outsider.

 

[Pokecheque]

I'd rather dramatically overpay Lee than dramatically overpay Ferland or Dzingel.

I'd rather they not dramatically overpay anyone.

If you're gonna overpay, limit the term. I don't see why more teams aren't doing this, it won't force a market correction.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I more meant develop that position internally rather than pay big bucks for an outsider.

You are starting to make me think you are Sakic's HF burner account.

 

[CoachBadkitten]

I'd rather they not dramatically overpay anyone.

If you're gonna overpay, limit the term. I don't see why more teams aren't doing this, it won't force a market correction.

It would be ideal obviously, but I've pretty much come to terms with getting any of the top guys on July 1 means overpaying in term or money. GMs go nuts with the prospect of a "free" addition, and if they flop then the year 6 or 7 is part of the next GM's problem anyway.

At least Lee would have a chance at a big impact in an area we struggled in, Ferland (and especially Dzingel) are not a huge step above the 2nd line guys we have already.

 

[CalderKing21]

I'd rather they not dramatically overpay anyone.

If you're gonna overpay, limit the term. I don't see why more teams aren't doing this, it won't force a market correction.

Because players want term. It always allows them to manipulate the cap hit a bit so term works out for both sides.

 

[dahrougem2]

GM's can't help themselves on July 1st. It's both asinine and amazing to witness at the same time.

They will happily hand out both long-term and big money contracts for average to above-average players, and then wonder why they're having to make moves to clear cap space down the line.

If Mats Zuccarello is seriously looking for 5 years, I'll gladly stay away.

This team needs to get better, yes - but not at the cost of being utterly idiotic. July 1st is not the day you win the Stanley Cup.

 

[lonelybadger]

Zucs can ask for 5 years all he wants but it sounds like Avs and Stars aren’t going to give him that.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Zucs can ask for 5 years all he wants but it sounds like Avs and Stars aren’t going to give him that.

Then someone else will. It’s the name of the game, the players have all the power in UFA

People are also going to complain about what Sakic does either way. He overpays to get a 2nd line and it was the wrong move, Sakic doesn’t get anyone notable and he’s not trying to take advantage of this 4 year window and screwing up the teams chances to compete. No one will be happy either way.

 

[Pokecheque]

Because players want term. It always allows them to manipulate the cap hit a bit so term works out for both sides.

I know, that's why I'd like for a team to go the other way and give high AAV, short term. It worked for Stastny and St. Louis. You get the same money without the added headache that comes with extra term.

 

[Avs_19]

Pierre believes in our 2C......

 

[Pokecheque]

If Pierre's talent evaluation is as good as his ability to dodge incoming pucks then Jost will indeed destroy the league next season.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Pierre believes in our 2C......

Same guy who thought Pit and the Avs could meet in the cup final. I mean who the ***** actually thought pit would make it out the East?

 

[shadow1]

Jost did look strong at the end of the year. If the Avs plan is to give him another shot as the 2C, I can stomach it provided he is flanked to two legitimate top-6 wingers.

 

[CalderKing21]

I know, that's why I'd like for a team to go the other way and give high AAV, short term. It worked for Stastny and St. Louis. You get the same money without the added headache that comes with extra term.

Right but most teams want cap gymnastics. There is really no reason to sign a older player beyond 5 years but teams will do it to lower the hit and allow them to bring in other players until the term backfires on them.

It's like NFL teams that push cap hits back to the end of the contract and cause cap hell for themselves.

 

[lonelybadger]

Jost is just god awful on faceoffs though.

 

[dahrougem2]

Same guy who thought Pit and the Avs could meet in the cup final. I mean who the fuk actually thought pit would make it out the East?

Didn't he predict it would be Tampa Bay and Colorado, not Pittsburgh?

I could have sworn during our home game vs Tampa that's all he was going on about.

 

[Patagonia]

Jost did look strong at the end of the year. If the Avs plan is to give him another shot as the 2C, I can stomach it provided he is flanked to two legitimate top-6 wingers.

The decent Wingers are on the 1st line.

 

[Pokecheque]

Jost is just god awful on faceoffs though.

Avs are used to centers who suck at faceoffs.

 

[Foppa2118]

Jost did look strong at the end of the year. If the Avs plan is to give him another shot as the 2C, I can stomach it provided he is flanked to two legitimate top-6 wingers.

That's the thing, If Sakic is gonna give him more of an opportunity next year he has to give him better line mates. Otherwise he's not really giving him an opportunity to succeed.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Didn't he predict it would be Tampa Bay and Colorado, not Pittsburgh?

I could have sworn during our home game vs Tampa that's all he was going on about.

You might be right, but I was remembering him going off about the Pit/Avs game. As well as the MacK/Crosby match up.

 

[mapletreemarty]

Then someone else will. It’s the name of the game, the players have all the power in UFA

People are also going to complain about what Sakic does either way. He overpays to get a 2nd line and it was the wrong move, Sakic doesn’t get anyone notable and he’s not trying to take advantage of this 4 year window and screwing up the teams chances to compete. No one will be happy either way.

I know I'm in the minority but I would give Zucc 5 years

 

[Mighty Makar]

I think 5 years is too much for Zuccarello. I could stomach 4 years, but prefer 3.

 

[shadow1]

The decent Wingers are on the 1st line.

If the Avs sign Lee...

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Kerfoot
Lee - Jost - Rantanen

I don’t like Kerfoot on the first line but we all know it’s coming.

 

[Papa Francouz]

I know I'm in the minority but I would give Zucc 5 years

I would, too. There's really not all that much mileage on his body right now. Even if he proves to only be effective for the first 4 years, as long as the cap hit isn't too high it shouldn't be much of an issue in year 5.