Rumor: Avs Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents 18-19 part XXVI|Kerfoot or Corefoot?

[Foppa2118]

So far Rants has shown he cant lead a line and without Mackinnon he looks like a completely different player fumbling over his own skates every other shift.

Mikko's pretty clearly not at 100% though.

 

[Avs44]

Mikko's pretty clearly not at 100% though.

Yeah, he definitely isn't. I think there's a reasons they are keeping Kerfoot on the left wall on the powerplay instead of moving Rants back there, which would be the only logical thing to do...I'm guessing Rantanen's ribs or whatever he injured are not in great shape, and he can't put his weight behind shots right now, like his one timers. He's definitely very off still.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I would almost guarantee it was a broken rib for Mikko, and that it is definitely not healed yet. He's probably playing through quite a bit of pain and yeah, he's not gonna be taking and big wind up slappers with that kind of injury.

 

[Foppa2118]

It's all just speculation, but I think it was the hip, not the ribs. I don't think he would have slammed the water bottle (or whatever it was) if he had just broken his ribs. That would have been too painful.

He also reached down his pants and grimaced a bit as he was skating off the ice.

 

[flyfysher]

I'm hoping Kerfoot can take that next step, or at least be more consistent.

I'd love to have:
Landeskog-MacKinnon-Kerfoot
Ferland-Hayes-Rantanen

Let Rants lead his line, and have the 1stLine available for those Just In Case scenarios.

EEEEKKKK!!! No disrespect to KerPing but the Avs can do better on the first-line. And yes, I have seen who he is paired with.

 

[avsfan09]

I would almost guarantee it was a broken rib for Mikko, and that it is definitely not healed yet. He's probably playing through quite a bit of pain and yeah, he's not gonna be taking and big wind up slappers with that kind of injury.

Not a medical professional but I think a broken rib is too dangerous to play through. There could be a chance of the rib puncturing organs right?

 

[Barklez]

I’d bet anything it’s not his ribs. IMO it’s his hip if it’s bone related, if it’s muscle/sift tissue anything ribs-down is fair game but they way he went into the boards I’d be amazed if it’s his ribs.

 

[Alex Jones]

It's all just speculation, but I think it was the hip, not the ribs. I don't think he would have slammed the water bottle (or whatever it was) if he had just broken his ribs. That would have been too painful.

He also reached down his pants and grimaced a bit as he was skating off the ice.

Yea guessing it's a hip problem and he has trouble driving his hips through the shot. Notice he hasn't really been shooting at all. Probably painful as shit.

 

[Hasbro]

EEEEKKKK!!! No disrespect to KerPing but the Avs can do better on the first-line. And yes, I have seen who he is paired with.

Nah better to break up the best line in hockey.

I am real tempted by Kadri: Trona is in a cap crunch, probably will sell low because of his antics and I’d rather keep him from a team like the Wild ot Nucks, but you are fool to think you can change a man as my girlfriend keeps saying about no one in particular.

 

[Pokecheque]

What do people think the defense is going to look like next season? The guys in there for sure, barring any trades, are:

Johnson
Barrie
Girard
Cole
Makar

That's already 5 of 6 spots wrapped up, with only Nemeth likely not to return. The guys all gunning for that last regular spot are:

Graves
Meloche
Barberio
Alt
Timmins

And then there is, of course, what to do about Nikita Zadorov. I also have no idea if Barrie gets dealt but I don't think that happens before the season starts.

My prediction: Meloche starts on the Eagles, but ends up on the Avs, Zadorov is dealt this offseason, Graves takes that third pairing spot, Barberio plays as the 7th guy (and likely misses half the season due to injury), Alt gets waived and plays another year as Eagles captain, and Barrie gets dealt. Keep in mind this is not necessarily what I WANT to happen, just what I think might happen.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

What do people think the defense is going to look like next season? The guys in there for sure, barring any trades, are:

Johnson
Barrie
Girard
Cole
Makar

That's already 5 of 6 spots wrapped up, with only Nemeth likely not to return. The guys all gunning for that last regular spot are:

Graves
Meloche
Barberio
Alt
Timmins

And then there is, of course, what to do about Nikita Zadorov. I also have no idea if Barrie gets dealt but I don't think that happens before the season starts.

My prediction: Meloche starts on the Eagles, but ends up on the Avs, Zadorov is dealt this offseason, Graves takes that third pairing spot, Barberio plays as the 7th guy (and likely misses half the season due to injury), Alt gets waived and plays another year as Eagles captain, and Barrie gets dealt. Keep in mind this is not necessarily what I WANT to happen, just what I think might happen.

I don't like to be that guy but I said it before and I'll say again....I can't shake the feeling that Sakic wanted Makar on the team right now as an audition to see if he can replace Barrie as early as next season. I know people will say that he is not ready to replace Barrie's 55-60 pts but I look at it from another angle. People have to look at both offense and defense. If he can have around 40 pts and then play better defense that will allow about 10 less goals against that's a net of around 5-10 pts difference. That makes Barrie expandable to bring in that 2nd line help + the cap saving.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Pokecheque]

I don't like to be that guy but I said it before and I'll say again....I can't shake the feeling that Sakic wanted Makar on the team right now as an audition to see if he can replace Barrie as early as next season. I know people will say that he is not ready to replace Barrie's 55-60 pts but I look at it from another angle. People have to look at both offense and defense. If he can have around 40 pts and then play better defense that will allow about 10 less goals against that's a net of around 5-10 pts difference. That makes Barrie expandable to bring in that 2nd line help + the cap saving.

Just my 2 cents.

I certainly can't rule that possibility out but I'm just not sure I see Joe, as patient and methodical as he is, making a decision that major with such a small sample size of games under Makar's belt. If indeed Barrie gets dealt I still think he waits until sometime during the regular season.

 

[Goulet17]

Hayes play with Winnipeg so far doesn't have me that concerned. Sometimes deadline acquisitions take awhile to get their bearings. He was always good in NY and was great for them as he became more of their go to guy.

He was never that good in the playoffs for NY. He just scored his 3rd goal and 11th point in 37 playoff games last night.

 

[Foppberg]

He was never that good in the playoffs for NY. He just scored his 3rd goal and 11th point in 37 playoff games last night.

I never said he was perfect. But if he's available? Go for him.

 

[Freudian]

Hayes is a decent player, but more in the Sodaberg vein than a real difference maker. He's a pretty passive player for being 6'5.

He did put up more points than usual the first half of the year, but how much is that being given a bigger role than he would have here and the increased scoring from the goalie equipment changes?

Perhaps a 40-50 point guy is worth $6M/year these days.

 

[cgf]

Hayes is a decent player, but more in the Sodaberg vein than a real difference maker. He's a pretty passive player for being 6'5.

He did put up more points than usual the first half of the year, but how much is that being given a bigger role than he would have here and the increased scoring from the goalie equipment changes?

Perhaps a 40-50 point guy is worth $6M/year these days.

Sure MacK n the top line get more PT than does Zbad, but it's not like Hayes was their de facto 1C who got the best linemates & opportunities

 

[OwenNolan]

I think if I was Sakic I would reward MacKinnon this year. Keep him happy. We have the money. Rework his contract for 9.5m a year. Add a few years also. Then that also sets a precedent for Rantanen contract talks. Give him 10 years at 8.5 per.

MacKinnon has to be the highest paid player on the team and things will play off that.

MacKinnon- 3m a year raise to 9.3m per

Rantanen- 10 years, 85m

Barrie- 5 years, 37.5m (top 10 $$ for dmen)

Zadorov- 5 years, 25m

We need to keep this young core.

 

[Ivan13]

I think if I was Sakic I would reward MacKinnon this year. Keep him happy. We have the money. Rework his contract for 9.5m a year. Add a few years also. Then that also sets a precedent for Rantanen contract talks. Give him 10 years at 8.5 per.

MacKinnon has to be the highest paid player on the team and things will play off that.

MacKinnon- 3m a year raise to 9.3m per

Rantanen- 10 years, 85m

Barrie- 5 years, 37.5m (top 10 $$ for dmen)

Zadorov- 5 years, 25m

We need to keep this young core.

I think you have no clue how contracts work in the NHL.

 

[Miri]

I think you have no clue how contracts work in the NHL.

Not to mention the smart thing is to give players short-term contracts, not long term ones. Not only the long-term ones can come and bite you in the arse few years later, it is the sure way to another lock-out.

 

[Pokecheque]

I think if I was Sakic I would reward MacKinnon this year. Keep him happy. We have the money. Rework his contract for 9.5m a year. Add a few years also. Then that also sets a precedent for Rantanen contract talks. Give him 10 years at 8.5 per.

MacKinnon has to be the highest paid player on the team and things will play off that.

MacKinnon- 3m a year raise to 9.3m per

Rantanen- 10 years, 85m

Barrie- 5 years, 37.5m (top 10 $$ for dmen)

Zadorov- 5 years, 25m

We need to keep this young core.

This is not the NFL, the NHL’s CBA strictly prohibits renegotiation of contracts. I’ve no idea why you’d even propose something so silly. He’s fine with the deal he has, he’ll get a massive raise with his next (and likely final) contract.

 

[RockLobster]

I think if I was Sakic I would reward MacKinnon this year. Keep him happy. We have the money. Rework his contract for 9.5m a year. Add a few years also. Then that also sets a precedent for Rantanen contract talks. Give him 10 years at 8.5 per.

MacKinnon has to be the highest paid player on the team and things will play off that.

MacKinnon- 3m a year raise to 9.3m per

Rantanen- 10 years, 85m

Barrie- 5 years, 37.5m (top 10 $$ for dmen)

Zadorov- 5 years, 25m

We need to keep this young core.

-You can't "re-work contracts" in the NHL...this isn't the NFL, so your stance on MacKinnon is moot.

-The longest a contract can be is 8 years, so your Rantanen proposal is moot.

-Barrie will ask for, and get (from whoever his team is) 7 or 8 years. Probably between 7.5-8M as a starting point.

-Zadorov has 0 case to ask for and receive 5M a year. I know we all like Big Z, but he is too inconsistent and doesn't provide the offense to get into the 5's per year.


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[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

-You can't "re-work contracts" in the NHL...this isn't the NFL, so your stance on MacKinnon is moot.

-The longest a contract can be is 8 years, so your Rantanen proposal is moot.

-Barrie will ask for, and get (from whoever his team is) 7 or 8 years. Probably between 7.5-8M as a starting point.

-Zadorov has 0 case to ask for and receive 5M a year. I know we all like Big Z, but he is too inconsistent and doesn't provide the offense to get into the 5's per year.


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I blame this on Barrie and Makar and Girard. This team is too damn small!!! They are so small that the Avs aren't allowed to circumvent the CBA.

 

[shadow1]

I have to give Kerfoot his dues and eat a nice serving of crow. He’s been awesome in the playoffs and his one assist in three games has not been an accurate representation of his impact.

If he can carry over his post season play into next season, I’d love him as a top-6 forward next year.

 

[Ncit3]

With the way Jost played last night, I think the kid needs more ice time and better linemates. He has all the talent in the world and is finally getting some confidence. Let's watch him put it all together and become a true top-6 threat.

 

[Foppberg]

-You can't "re-work contracts" in the NHL...this isn't the NFL, so your stance on MacKinnon is moot.

-The longest a contract can be is 8 years, so your Rantanen proposal is moot.

-Barrie will ask for, and get (from whoever his team is) 7 or 8 years. Probably between 7.5-8M as a starting point.

-Zadorov has 0 case to ask for and receive 5M a year. I know we all like Big Z, but he is too inconsistent and doesn't provide the offense to get into the 5's per year.


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Is it really surprising though considering who it is?