Rumor: Avs Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents 18-19 part XI| Witty Title

[UncleRisto]

Easy to see why when you see who we're playing. Tampa, Pit, Nash, Vegas, SJ, Chicago.

Mm, with those double-header nights, that's the perk (if you want to think of it as a perk) of being a possible 9:30-10 PM ET starter at home.

 

[Foppa2118]

Good players will eventually find a way to score or produce ie. Hall.

Drouin is a fantastic player, but his attitude is terrible. Watching a few Habs games and seeing him sulk when the play or puck does not work in his favor. He acted in a similar manner with TB. Not sure the ask which is likely a lot to recoup trading Sergachev, but the Avs shouldn't offer too much.

LW already has Landy, Kerfoot, Ghetto, Bourque and Neito, with prospects Kamenev, Bowers, Shvyrev & Greer that could replace at least 2 players on the NHL roster and with 2-1sts in 2019, another forward is likely to be added.

Doubtful if Drouin even plays with Mack by replacing Landy, but would be a an excellent 2-line pairing with Jost.

Yeah but Hall is a better player than Drouin. He's better than most wingers in the league. Most skilled wingers can only do so much on their own without a skilled/smart center to work with, and form chemistry with. The difference can be an underperforming 45 point winger, or a 60+ point winger producing the way he's capable of.

I do think the Avs would love to find a way to put Landy on Jost's wing though. As soon as the top line has any sort of hiccup I think that's what they'll do. He's just the perfect two way winger with really underrated smarts that makes those around him better. The kind of winger to bring stability to a young center's NHL development, so they can play their game with confidence knowing he has their back in all situations on the ice.

 

[Foppa Frossa]

 

[Balthazar]

Nashville always appear to get away with lower AAV in exchange for longer term. I wonder if it will start to bite them in the ass sooner or later. 8 years for a 28 year old is risky.

 

[lonelybadger]

Looking at their cap friendly they have a solid 2 years of championship contention barring anything crazy happening.

 

[Piestany88]

Nashville always appear to get away with lower AAV in exchange for longer term. I wonder if it will start to bite them in the ass sooner or later. 8 years for a 28 year old is risky.

Less tax or no tax in Tennessee? 1 or the other

 

[Piestany88]

Nashville always appear to get away with lower AAV in exchange for longer term. I wonder if it will start to bite them in the ass sooner or later. 8 years for a 28 year old is risky.

Ya too much $ and term for a knockneed skater 8 more years with the game getting faster. This is good for the Avs though

 

[henchman21]

Looking at their cap friendly they have a solid 2 years of championship contention barring anything crazy happening.

I'd say they have 4 solid years. Core is in the midst and the older players are not too old before the drop off. When Subban and Forsberg have to be re-signed, I think they will start to have issues. They do need to move to Saros sooner rather than later though.

 

[lonelybadger]

I'd say they have 4 solid years. Core is in the midst and the older players are not too old before the drop off. When Subban and Forsberg have to be re-signed, I think they will start to have issues. They do need to move to Saros sooner rather than later though.

Can't they just keep Saros and jettison Rinne?

 

[henchman21]

Can't they just keep Saros and jettison Rinne?

Of course they can, but Rinne is loved by the org and coaching staff... and overall he hasn't played real poorly. Would be a good move from them to do IMO.

 

[Pokecheque]

I get that he's loved, but he's still going to be 36 when his contract expires, and despite the fact that they won the Prez last season and made the SCF the year before, he didn't exactly have a stellar postseason showing the last two seasons. If they want to extend Pekka for 1, even two years, that's fine, but they ain't moving Juuse.

 

[Foppa2118]

Rinne turns 36 in November. After 35 goalies, and players in general can fall completely off a cliff from year to year, without warning. The Preds may love Rinne, but thev're got their eyes on Saros when no one's looking.

 

[Balthazar]

I certainly don't see Rinne being their starter for the next 4 years.

 

[henchman21]

I get that he's loved, but he's still going to be 36 when his contract expires, and despite the fact that they won the Prez last season and made the SCF the year before, he didn't exactly have a stellar postseason showing the last two seasons. If they want to extend Pekka for 1, even two years, that's fine, but they ain't moving Juuse.

They shouldn't extend Rinne at all IMO... get to Saros as quickly as possible.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

That's a good contract for Ellis. He was so criminally underpaid before. Still underpaid now but it's a lot closer to his market value.

 

[Balthazar]

That's a good contract for Ellis. He was so criminally underpaid before. Still underpaid now but it's a lot closer to his market value.

Really? That makes him the 20th highest AAV dman in the league and he's signed until he's 36. You think he's worth 7M+ for 8 years?

 

[Avs71]

Get Barrie on that contract.

 

[lonelybadger]

Maybe we can trade Mack for Ellis now.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Really? That makes him the 20th highest AAV dman in the league and he's signed until he's 36. You think he's worth 7M+ for 8 years?

By the time that contract takes effect he'll be the ~25th highest paid Dman of not lower. And within a couple of years it'll be 30.


Yes, hes worth more then that kind of money. I like Ellis more then I do OEL.

 

[dahrougem2]

Ellis has never cracked 40 points in his career. Granted, he was on pace to last season and he had 38 the season prior, so the ability to do so is clearly there. He's pretty good defensively, too, so I think this contract is fair but I worry that if this is what Ellis is getting, Barrie could get a lot higher.

 

[S E P H]

I certainly don't see Rinne being their starter for the next 4 years.

He shouldn't be a starter to begin next season after how poor he was in the most recent playoff run. Polie is a fantastic GM, but I argue that him trusting Rinne will potentially be his downfall.

There is a chance he might be able to get Varlamov from us if we're not in a playoff picture by February/March, which could expand our cupboard even more.

 

[hockeyfish]

He shouldn't be a starter to begin next season after how poor he was in the most recent playoff run. Polie is a fantastic GM, but I argue that him trusting Rinne will potentially be his downfall.

There is a chance he might be able to get Varlamov from us if we're not in a playoff picture by February/March, which could expand our cupboard even more.

If you can't trust Rinne, who can you trust?

 

[S E P H]

If you can't trust Rinne, who can you trust?

It depends on when you lost faith in him, if the Preds front office started losing faith in him due to last season your point is quite valid. However, I think he's been on a downward spiral for the past two to three seasons, which makes him easier to try and replace. The best thing for the Predators is to completely tank for the first month of the season largely due to Pekka's performance. He should lose the starting role to Saros and Polie should gain a veteran backup/starter at the trade deadline.

 

[Eltuna]

It depends on when you lost faith in him, if the Preds front office started losing faith in him due to last season your point is quite valid. However, I think he's been on a downward spiral for the past two to three seasons, which makes him easier to try and replace. The best thing for the Predators is to completely tank for the first month of the season largely due to Pekka's performance. He should lose the starting role to Saros and Polie should gain a veteran backup/starter at the trade deadline.

He literally just won the Vezina, he wasn’t great in the playoffs but to say he played poorly last year is crazy.

 

[Pokecheque]

Rinne will start the year in goal. There's no reason to start the season with a goaltending controversy headache when there's no reason to do so yet. He's the reigning Vezina Trophy winner, it doesn't matter how poorly he ended things last season. Everyone starts at zero in October. Saros will most definitely get more starts though, I envision it going more or less the way the transition was handled in Tampa from Big Ben to Vasilevskiy.