Rumor: Avs Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents 18-19 part XI| Witty Title

[McMetal]

What sucks is that we could get Pacioretty for peanuts, but the team really isn't in a position to acquire a guy that age yet. Plus, I do NOT want to be the team stuck with his next contract.

 

[Meeqs]

Apparently he used his NMC to the full of his ability.

Skinner said on a radio station after the trade that the Buf was the only one that was brought to him and that he never rejected any others so who knows which reports are correct.

 

[Meeqs]

Kase is a RW that shoots right and can be offersheeted.......

Kase is hella good but he isn't worth the Avs giving up a 1st. Just let Ana's cap issues slowly force talented players out and snag them then.

 

[Meeqs]

Yeah, my ideal second line for the near future before FA was Stastny/Skinner/Jost. Looking at Stastny*s contract and Skinner's return it's a damn shame that it didn't happened.

As of right now it is a shame but its likely in 2-3 years we will be glad we didn't

 

[Meeqs]

What sucks is that we could get Pacioretty for peanuts, but the team really isn't in a position to acquire a guy that age yet. Plus, I do NOT want to be the team stuck with his next contract.

Heard he turned down 6.5+ from LA and no chance I'd give that much to a 30 year old guy with who else will be on the market next year.

 

[McMetal]

Kase is hella good but he isn't worth the Avs giving up a 1st. Just let Ana's cap issues slowly force talented players out and snag them then.

With our prospect pool this deep, and holding an extra first next year, I'd say putting our own first on the table for a guy like Kase is a wise move. If that first was mid-teens again and turned into a player like Kase we'd probably be quite happy with that. And while cost control is important it's not like Kase will be making Nylander or Rantanen level money on his next deal.

Still, I don't think Sakic is into it. He wants to keep building, and I can't say I blame him. He'll probably do what Toronto did and wait till he's bursting with assets he can't sign before he actually starts moving futures.

 

[dahrougem2]

I don't blame Pacioretty for wanting to chase the money on his next contract. He's been criminally underpaid for what he does both in terms of production and two-way play throughout his time in Montreal.

I just don't want to be the team that gives him said contract.

 

[Pokecheque]

Yeah I agree Kase is worth a 1st rounder, but the Ducks would be morons to give him up, especially for just that. So it's a distinct possibility I guess...

 

[Balthazar]

Pacioretty will likely not decline as fast as some of you believe but he won't be in his prime anymore when we'll need him to be. I don't think he'll get traded for peanuts either, his value is at an all time low at the moment but Bergevin pretty much surrendered the upcoming season because of Weber's injury so he will probably bring him back until the deadline.

 

[Pokecheque]

Bergevin is gonna end up being the epitome of what not to do when it comes to asset management. He's now not only waited way too long to pull the trigger on both the Galchenyuk and Pacioretty deals, he's gone out of his way to depreciate those assets in the public eye instead of instructing his coach to showcase them to raise their value.

I think he'd be a great fit someplace like San Jose, but my guess is he goes somewhere like...Edmonton.

 

[Balthazar]

Bergevin is gonna end up being the epitome of what not to do when it comes to asset management. He's now not only waited way too long to pull the trigger on both the Galchenyuk and Pacioretty deals, he's gone out of his way to depreciate those assets in the public eye instead of instructing his coach to showcase them to raise their value.

I think he'd be a great fit someplace like San Jose, but my guess is he goes somewhere like...Edmonton.

Don't see the Oilers trading for him knowing that they won't be able to re-up him. SJ is a good place but he'd probably be there already if they were interested.

 

[Freaky Styley]

+1 on the Kase train. Love me any skater with the name Ondrej. But seriously, the guy is good and ready to break out.

 

[Pokecheque]

Don't see the Oilers trading for him knowing that they won't be able to re-up him. SJ is a good place but he'd probably be there already if they were interested.

Yeah I know, though I'm not about to append sound logic to the Oilers...

I really don't know where in hell he's gonna end up. It's not like there are many teams who couldn't use a player like this, I just don't know which team is finally gonna step up. Watch it be Carolina (again, no logic here, just putting a random name out there).

 

[PAZ]

Zero chance a budget team with an aging core moves a cost-controlled asset like Kase. Plus, i'm not ready to start trading the Avs first with the valuation of a mid 1st. We're in the toughest division in the league and while I would be thrilled to make the playoffs again, there's a decent chance it could be around the 10th pick.

 

[agentblack]

Zero chance a budget team with an aging core moves a cost-controlled asset like Kase. Plus, i'm not ready to start trading the Avs first with the valuation of a mid 1st. We're in the toughest division in the league and while I would be thrilled to make the playoffs again, there's a decent chance it could be around the 10th pick.

I mean at the draft then im cool with it. But now? ummm?

 

[dahrougem2]

Bergevin is gonna end up being the epitome of what not to do when it comes to asset management. He's now not only waited way too long to pull the trigger on both the Galchenyuk and Pacioretty deals, he's gone out of his way to depreciate those assets in the public eye instead of instructing his coach to showcase them to raise their value.

I think he'd be a great fit someplace like San Jose, but my guess is he goes somewhere like...Edmonton.

I think if Max Pacioretty found his way onto Edmonton next season, he'd score 40 goals on Connor McDavid's wing.

 

[Pokecheque]

I disagree with that. It's not like Montreal didn't pair him with a top-end ce...oh wait.

 

[agentblack]

By the time MaxPac actually gets on a team with a legit no. 1 C he'll be too old and slow to actually play with them

 

[Balthazar]

Not sure if it was posted here already but Yak thinks that he was treated unfairly.

Nail Yakupov: "Russian players should know there is unfair prejudice towards Russians in the NHL . There is not equal approach towards Russian & non-Russian by the NHL clubs. Unfortunatelly. If there is a choice between Russian & non-Russian, the NHL club (a coach) does not pick a Russian on a game roster."

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[UncleRisto]

Yeah, that must be it.

 

[agentblack]

I know some are taking it to mean he's talking about himself but he's not entirely wrong in regards to more fringe NHLers. Particularly the ones who havent been playing in North America their whole lives.

 

[Anders Cain]

I know some are taking it to mean he's talking about himself but he's not entirely wrong in regards to more fringe NHLers. Particularly the ones who havent been playing in North America their whole lives.

There definitely is a bias id say but at the same time... In my experience its reflective of your play too. Grigorenko... Yakupov... Mirnov.. They all wanted to play bigger roles. But their play wasn't reflective that they deserved a bigger role for one reason or another. .(inconsistent play, no defensive ability, low hockey iq, no willingness to play the system, not enough drive to go to the dirty areas.. )

 

[klozge]

Not sure if it was posted here already but Yak thinks that he was treated unfairly.



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I think Bednar gave him more chances than he deserved.

 

[McMetal]

Not sure if it was posted here already but Yak thinks that he was treated unfairly.



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It's hard when a guy is so naturally talented and tries so hard, it seems like he should have made it when so often it's a lack of one or the other trait that holds players back. But damn, he has no idea what to do out there.

 

[Pokecheque]

That’s just it though—he honestly didn’t try that hard all the time. He took some shifts off and floated around, not sure if that was work ethic or a guy who was just lost though