Skinnyjimmy08
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Carlo would be a MASSIVE acquisition for the Avs if they can get him. Unsure if Bruins would move him though. They will need him bad when Chara retires
Sounds like you're regurgitating what you hear, not what you know.
Fans saying Carlo is struggling gives the impression he is a borderline 3rd pairing defenseman. He may be struggling compared to his first half but he is very much still playing as a 20 year old top 4 defenseman with big size, big upside, high mobility, and IQ.
He's still unproven. Lots of defenseman have a good 1st year then completely busts. Remember Eric Gelinas...
Still he beat out 2 veterans and another young d-man to take the 1st pairing roll. Defense is one of the hardest positions to learn and excel at. By most standard Carlo shouldn't even be in the NHL right now, but he is and he's playing like a top-4 dman.
He's struggled recently (which we expected to happen at somepoint), but he also not used to an NHL schedule. The kids played more game already then he did last year in the WHL.
Not a chance.
I firmly believe it's Sakic that eventually caves on his ask.
That's what the scouts are saying, who else would I listen to?
I don't follow the B's closely and I know their forwards aren't getting any younger, but doesn't it seem like they'd want to add D or at least not get rid of any promising ones?
He might, but his definition of caving will be different from yours. He isn't ever going to let good, team controlled guys go for scraps.
Is he playing that much because he's actually good enough to play that many minutes or because the Bs is severely lacking in talent outside of three players?
I'd much rather have McAvoy. but I'd be content with this package:
Carlo + Zboril + Debrusk + 1st for Landeskog + Tyutin
He has 20 good games at the NHL level, he beat out two veterans who are barely 3rd pairing Ds, and gets to play with Chara who covers some of his warts, not to mention the host of elite defensive forwards the Bruins have. I'd like to know how he'd look playing alongside Beauchemin, and behind the defensively sound forwards like Grigorenko, JC, Comeau etc. Not too hot I reckon.
Its absolute robbery for the Avs.I'd much rather have McAvoy. but I'd be content with this package:
Carlo + Zboril + Debrusk + 1st for Landeskog + Tyutin
Is Zadorov good enough to play 20 minutes a night or because the Avs are severely lacking in talent outside of 3 players? It goes both ways.
Carlo has been good and has progressed way faster than I predicted. Do I think he's a future #1? No. A future top pair? Probably not in the old sense but today you have a lot of guys who play "top pair" even if they aren't the 2nd best D on the team. You can argue the upside if you want, but he's proven me wrong consistently, so I'm not going to doubt him.
But ultimately, I have issues with Landeskog's upside given his lack of scoring. Yes the bottom 6 is bad, but if Landeskog is the type to get you a future top pair D you'd think he'd be able to put up points. He plays on the PP but yet his shots/60 on the PP are atrocious. That's not Martinsen or Bourque's fault. That's just not being a good enough offensive player.
The B's themselves have better scoring options than him, so it doesn't make sense to give up a cheap young D already making a case for himself.
Um, the Avs actually don't WANT to give kids big minutes. They'd probably prefer to give those minutes to Tyutin. Zadorov hasn't been handed anything. Carlo coming in would be handed a huge role with no life preserver and I'm not entirely sure he wouldn't be sent to the AHL for development reasons at some point too.
Um, the Avs actually don't WANT to give kids big minutes. They'd probably prefer to give those minutes to Tyutin. Zadorov hasn't been handed anything. Carlo coming in would be handed a huge role with no life preserver and I'm not entirely sure he wouldn't be sent to the AHL for development reasons at some point too.
If the Bruins trade away Carlo I wont be able to control my laughter.
TBH we'd hope he becomes more than a 3-4 Dman if we're trading Landeskog...
I would think if it the Bruins were willing to include Carlo in a deal, the trade would have happened already.
Depending on what you read and who you believe the B's said no to including Carlo.
McAvoy might be on Sakic radar however the B's would be ill advised to trade him at this point.
My guess is prospects Heinen and Zboril are involved...the hold up might be Colorado's reluctancy to take back a salary dump such as Belesky or Hayes.
Yup, nothing special about a recently turned 20yr old rookie d-man, playing over 21 minutes a night and on pace for around 20pts