Eklund Rumor: Avs and Bruins 5 player swap (involving Landeskog)

[danielpalfredsson]

Who was also 1 year from UFA, reportedly commanding 8M per year, who held out previously in his career, and was appearing to be headed to UFA as quickly as possible.

That has absolutely nothing to do with my argument.

 

[Ivan13]

I would think if it the Bruins were willing to include Carlo in a deal, the trade would have happened already.
Depending on what you read and who you believe the B's said no to including Carlo.

McAvoy might be on Sakic radar however the B's would be ill advised to trade him at this point.

My guess is prospects Heinen and Zboril are involved...the hold up might be Colorado's reluctancy to take back a salary dump such as Belesky or Hayes.

Heinen, Zboril and we have to take Bruins junk? You're too kind.

 

[tony d]

Not often I'll say this but I think Eklund could be onto something here.

 

[bbfan419]

I would think if it the Bruins were willing to include Carlo in a deal, the trade would have happened already.
Depending on what you read and who you believe the B's said no to including Carlo.

McAvoy might be on Sakic radar however the B's would be ill advised to trade him at this point.

My guess is prospects Heinen and Zboril are involved...the hold up might be Colorado's reluctancy to take back a salary dump such as Belesky or Hayes.

You could very well be right, one report had it as Zboril and Beleskey for Landeskog, so maybe there is another prospect like Heinen added and a smaller piece from the Avs. I think when and if this deal goes down a lot of people will be surprised the price was not as high as they thought they would get for Landeskog.

 

[Goulet17]

The Avs are not going to trade Landeskog to Boston without Carlo or McAvoy involved.

Taking back a bad contract and having someone like Zboril as the centerpiece of a futures package is not rational IMO.

If Boston does not want to give up Carlo or McAvoy, which may very well be the case, there will be no trade.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Would he? Once Johnson is back, wouldn't Carlo be allowed to develop on the 3rd pairing?

Or would one of Johnson or Barrie shift over to the left-side?

Our 3rd pairing is for the Mark Barberios of the world. I think if they were going to play Carlo that little they will send him to the AHL. Assuming they'd give it a shot I think Zadorov-EJ and Barrie-Carlo is what they'd try.

 

[tigervixxxen]

The Avs are not going to trade Landeskog to Boston without Carlo or McAvoy involved.

Taking back a bad contract and having someone like Zboril as the centerpiece of a futures package is not rational IMO.

If Boston does not want to give up Carlo or McAvoy, which may very well be the case, there will be no trade.

Yeah this. If Carlo isn't on the table no way would this be persisting.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

The Avs are not going to trade Landeskog to Boston without Carlo or McAvoy involved.

Taking back a bad contract and having someone like Zboril as the centerpiece of a futures package is not rational IMO.

If Boston does not want to give up Carlo or McAvoy, which may very well be the case, there will be no trade.

Are you the GM?

 

[Ivan13]

Are you the GM?

Brilliant rebuttal.

 

[Goulet17]

Are you the GM?

All it takes is a little common sense, let's be serious.

The defensive prospect/player is the key piece to any deal. It has been discussed in the media for weeks and Sakic seems to be clear about it as well. Without Carlo, McAvoy, it does not make sense.

 

[ON3M4N]

All it takes is a little common sense, let's be serious.

The defensive prospect/player is the key piece to any deal. It has been discussed in the media for weeks and Sakic seems to be clear about it as well. Without Carlo, McAvoy, it does not make sense.

Maybe that's why it hasn't happened yet

In all honesty I think you'll find more Bruins fans ok w/ NOT acquiring Landeskog if it cost McAvoy or Carlo.

 

[Muffin]

Are you the GM?

Your own very respected poster DOM basically said you guys are out to lunch if you think you're getting Landeskog without giving Carlo.

 

[Goulet17]

Maybe that's why it hasn't happened yet

In all honesty I think you'll find more Bruins fans ok w/ NOT acquiring Landeskog if it cost McAvoy or Carlo.

In fairness, you would probably find the same number of Avs fans that would be happy to keep Landeskog if the deal does not include McAvoy or Carlo.

 

[SuperJoe]

In fairness, you would probably find the same number of Avs fans that would be happy to keep Landeskog if the deal does not include McAvoy or Carlo.

Hell some, me included are not to thrilled with Carlo

 

[dbarillaro]

How would you feel about a Carlo for Barrie swap then Landeskog for two Bruins players?

 

[wintersej]

Yeah this. If Carlo isn't on the table no way would this be persisting.

If Duchene goes for a LHD, does that change the needs for a Landy deal? Unless the Avs move Barrie elsewhere or to the left side, Carlo has never made much sense to be in Colorado, TBH.

 

[ON3M4N]

In fairness, you would probably find the same number of Avs fans that would be happy to keep Landeskog if the deal does not include McAvoy or Carlo.

That's what makes these threads so entertaining lol. Both fan bases are happy not doing a deal if the deal isn't right for them.

 

[EdAVSfan]

That has absolutely nothing to do with my argument.

How could it not?

You're comparing the proposed package to what ROR got in return.

How can you not compare the contractual situations between ROR and landeskog when comparing the proposed deal.

So if landeskog was about to become a UFA in a couple of months, Boston would still be willing to deal the same package?

The value they got for ROR is based on his entire situation. Play, age, skill and contract. As it would be for landeskog.

Doesn't it seem illogical to you to compare the two packages but then not compare the players involved in the deal?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Your own very respected poster DOM basically said you guys are out to lunch if you think you're getting Landeskog without giving Carlo.

If you have to say "basically" then he didn't. He did say he personally would give up Carlo.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Landeskog + Barrie for McAvoy + Krejci + Senyshyn

 

[cgf]

Not being a dick, and I understand Landeskog has value.....but I think I'd use a stronger emotion than "content" with getting Carlo+3 first round picks (by proxy) for Landeskog.

I'd be disappointed. Rather keep Landeskog anyway, but if he was going to move it would be brutal to get anything less than McAvoy++ in return.

 

[Ivan13]

If you have to say "basically" then he didn't. He did say he personally would give up Carlo.

Except for the fact that he did say that exact thing.

 

[wintersej]

Landeskog + Barrie for McAvoy + Krejci + Senyshyn

Krejci probably wouldn't waive his NMC and Krejci does nothing for the Avs age wise.

Landy + Barrie for McAvoy++++ is something I have tried to work out, but can't come up with something realistic. Boston would need to send back a couple contracts and like 4 more prospects/picks. If you see 6 pieces going back on one side of the trade, it's probably not realistic .

But, for fun....


Landy + Barrie for McAvoy + JFK + DeBrusk + Heinen + 1st + Beleksey + Hayes

 

[ON3M4N]

Landeskog + Barrie for McAvoy + Krejci + Senyshyn

COL has no need for Krejci

BOS has no need for Barrie

I don't see Boston giving up 2 of the top 3 prospects for Landeskog.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I will admit that if we do move Carlo++ for Landy, our top six will be very dangerous.

Marchand - Bergeron - Backes
Landeskog - Krejci - Pastrnak
Vatrano - Spooner - Cehlarik
Beleskey - Moore - Hayes

Just hope that we can out score our defense lol

good lord that is actually extremely impressive