tony d
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With namba's pick we are now 1/2 way through the draft. Lots of good drafting being done, it's in these final picks that champions are made.
I agree with Dreakmur’s choice. Even if you were to rank Armstrong higher on a Best Captains of All Time list, it’s close enough where I’d give it to the player whose on ice performance is going to be a lot more impactful than the other’s.
Why?
Reasoning by confidence is so of the times we're in: "He's the greatest folks. I know. The best. No doubt about it." *stick chin out and grin*
Ah,... in terms of leadership it isn't so apt to reduce playoff performance to points.
And Armstrong actually scored more playoff points than any teammate in the Leafs dynasty. But more to the point: Toronto had success through extreme hard work and defensive play against offensively better teams. The captain, the coach and goaltending were key.
It also helps that Conn Smythe identifies in his autobiography Armstrong as the greatest Leaf captain ever, acknowledging Kennedy but still picking Armstrong.
I rarely go into VsX anymore because it's become such a crutch for arguments when you look back at the assassination threads and head to head match ups to determine line superiority.
Can I make Durnan my captain even though he has inflated wartime numbers, was a deserter, quit on his team in the playoffs and acquired cheap first team all-star wins? All that said, he was captain in 1948.
Personally, I think this is all Tranna talk.
I always use it as a launching point.
Can he? Underwhelming. Yeah they won the cup but he only captained the team for one season!Charlie Gardiner can be captain among goalies... and that's it.
Understood.
My point was part of a bigger issue I see. When comparing players we always tend to use VsX or point/goal/assist finishes etc to determine value. It's the constant go to for many and while there is obvious value in offense I think we all tend to undervalue (to varying degrees) the impact D has in hockey.
I can think of another undrafted C that played goalie.Charlie Gardiner can be captain among goalies... and that's it.
Can he? Underwhelming. Yeah they won the cup but he only captained the team for one season!
I’ve not really seen this. I’ve never seen anyone use the vs.x numbers to do anything but show offensive comparisons.
I’ve not really seen this. I’ve never seen anyone use the vs.x numbers to do anything but show offensive comparisons.