ATD 2021 Draft Thread II

[BenchBrawl]

Sorry for the delay, I'm not sure which direction to go, so I'll pick up Claude Provost, RW.

Provost is probably the best defensive RWer on board. An excellent skater, he was used along with Henri Richard to check Bobby Hull in the 1960s.

 

[VanIslander]

Will Provost ever fall to the 3rd line where he belongs?

He only twice hit the 20-goal mark, and his playoff scoring rate is worse.

He is the first of several EXCELLENT defensive forwards to come. The question is: Where in the line-up do they belong?

 

[BenchBrawl]

Will Provost ever fall to the 3rd line where he belongs?

He only twice hit the 20-goal mark, and his playoff scoring rate is worse.

He is the.first of several EXCELLENT defensive forwards. The question is: Where in the line-up do they belong?

Defensive RWers of his caliber who can still chip in offensively at ES don't grow on trees. For now Provost is on my 3rd line, but he might play with Hull and Schmidt, especially because he has the speed to match those two speedy gentlemen.

Lots of elite defensive LWers and centers; very few RWers.

 

[VanIslander]

Lots of elite defensive LWers and centers; very few RWers.

True.

Probably because there aren't a lot of Bobby Hull's or OV's.

EDIT: None of OV, Lindsay or Kharlamov are in your division (and you have Hull). So it wasn't a strategic pick.

 

[BenchBrawl]

True.

Probably because there aren't a lot of Bobby Hull's or OV's.

Heh, that might be true.

 

[BenchBrawl]

EDIT: None of OV, Lindsay or Kharlamov are in your division (and you have Hull). So it wasn't a strategic pick.

Ovechkin and Mahovlich are in my conference.

If someone in my division picked Provost, I would have been put into a tough match-up I want to avoid. And I know they would have picked him up sooner or later.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I'll pick a guy who gives my defense some much added snarl, a guy who was defense-first, but still managed to finish top 5 in scoring among NHL defensemen 3 times

Fern Flaman, D

Norris record:

1955: 3rd (behind Harvey and Kelly)
1956: 5th
1957: 3rd (behind Harvey and Kelly)
1958: 3rd (behind Harvey and Gadsby)
1959: 5th

In a 1958 coach's poll, Flaman finished top 3 for "best defensive defenseman" along with Harvey (who ran away with 1st) and Pronovost. He also finished 1st in the "best fighter" category. This is the only coach's poll from the Original 6 period of which I'm aware.

Flaman was probably the best player on the Bruins teams that went to back to back Cup finals in 1957 and 1958

LOH: "Basing his game on discipline and a strong physical presence, Ferdinand Charles Flaman was one of the game's top stay-at-home defensemen in the 1950s. Although he contributed to his team's transitional game when needed, it was as an open-ice bodychecker and for his ability to clear opponents from around his goal that Flaman acquired his reputation."

Old bio: ATD2011 Bio Thread

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'll pick a guy who gives my defense some much added snarl, a guy who was defense-first, but still managed to finish top 5 in scoring among NHL defensemen 3 times

Fern Flaman, D

Norris record:

1955: 3rd (behind Harvey and Kelly)
1956: 5th
1957: 3rd (behind Harvey and Kelly)
1958: 3rd (behind Harvey and Gadsby)
1959: 5th

In a 1958 coach's poll finished top 3 for "best defensive defenseman" along with Harvey (who ran away with 1st) and Pronovost. He also finished 1st in the "best fighter" category.

Flaman was probably the best player on the Bruins teams that went to back to back Cup finals in 1957 and 1958

LOH: "Basing his game on discipline and a strong physical presence, Ferdinand Charles Flaman was one of the game's top stay-at-home defensemen in the 1950s. Although he contributed to his team's transitional game when needed, it was as an open-ice bodychecker and for his ability to clear opponents from around his goal that Flaman acquired his reputation."

Old bio: ATD2011 Bio Thread

Lucky guy, you got a steal.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Ovechkin and Mahovlich are in my conference.

If someone in my division picked Provost, I would have been put into a tough match-up I want to avoid. And I know they would have picked him up sooner or later.

I had to pick D here, but I probably would have picked Provost at 216

 

[BenchBrawl]

Ovechkin and Mahovlich are in my conference.

If someone in my division picked Provost, I would have been put into a tough match-up I want to avoid. And I know they would have picked him up sooner or later.

Ninja logic!

I had to pick D here, but I probably would have picked Provost at 216

See? TDMM is in my division and obviously always one of the most dangerous opponents.

 

[Dreakmur]

I'll take Bill White

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'll take Bill White

I lol'ed at the obviousness of this pick. Good reunification.

 

[Dreakmur]

I lol'ed at the obviousness of this pick. Good reunification.

Yeah lol

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I'll take Bill White

I was briefly tempted to pick him just to f*** with you, but I think White is harder to find a partner for than Flaman.

On the other hand, you have the perfect partner for White. Kind of weird to draft Stapleton before White, but I guess it worked out for you

 

[Leaf Lander]

Leafs select Jimmy Thomson D

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Leafs select Jimmy Thomson D

He was my backup plan if Flaman was taken.

 

[RustyRazor]

Leafs select Jimmy Thomson D

Damn

 

[rmartin65]

For what it is worth, Provost was on my list back at 195.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

3 good D picks there with Flaman, White, and Thomson. My original plan was to target one of those 3 to play with Harvey on my shutdown pairing, but then Pospisil fell and I made the trade with Nabby.

 

[Habsfan18]

I’ll select a player generally considered as Bobby Hull before Bobby Hull became Bobby Hull. Widely regarded as having the hardest shot of his era as well as being the fastest skater. He provides offense while also bringing a solid overall two-way game.

“Cannonball” RW, Didier Pitre.

 

[BraveCanadian]

I'm here but I'll be a few.. trying to decide between a couple of guys

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I’ll select a player generally considered as Bobby Hull before Bobby Hull became Bobby Hull. Widely regarded as having the hardest shot of his era as well as being the fastest skater. He provides offense while also bringing a solid overall two-way game.

“Cannonball” RW, Didier Pitre.

If I remember correctly, there is no evidence that Pitre was a two-way forward, and every description we have of Pitre’s defensive game is from when he was playing D.

 

[Habsfan18]

If I remember correctly, there is no evidence that Pitre was a two-way forward, and every description we have of Pitre’s defensive game is from when he was playing D.

Well, I guess I should day he has solid two-way “capabilities” then. Not necessarily a two-way forward, but it can be assumed based on his time spent on D that he doesn’t have a mind strictly for offense-only.

But make no mistake, his will be tasked on bringing offense.

 

[VanIslander]

Bobby Hull was a defensive black hole.
So the comp was apt.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Well, I guess I should day he has solid two-way “capabilities” then. Not necessarily a two-way forward, but it can be assumed based on his time spent on D that he doesn’t have a mind strictly for offense-only.

But make no mistake, his will be tasked on bringing offense.

I feel like we kinda hashed that first point out, maybe in the previous thread. Most of these early stars played games from D occasionally like Lalonde. But the consensus was the fact they could play D doesn't really say anything about their defence as a forward. Rover is really international waters since the position seemed to do everything.