ATD 2021 Draft Thread II

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ALL-TIME DRAFT 2021!

The draft will last 24 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach, and 3 extra picks.

1) The clock starts Monday, January 18th at 0800 AM (EST).

2). Time Limits.

24 hour clock for round 1
then 12 hour clock for round 2
then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-24

One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). TRADING IS ALLOWED

Trading Rules:

• Trading is to be reasonably fair and balanced and lopsided trades will need to be re-worked or dropped. Unless there is vocal displeasure with a deal, generally speaking we pass trades that get an OK from 3 veteran members.

• Each team may make up to FIVE trades.

• Players CAN be traded during the draft as part of deal through the add/drop period. NO TRADING OF PLAYERS AFTER ADD/DROPS.

• No more than 4 assets per team may be traded at a time.

• A submitted trade DOES NOT count towards one of your 5 trades unless it is vetoed and the reworked deal gets vetoed as well.

• Swapping all positions before the draft doesn't count as a "trade" for the purposes of the above rules.

• Trading while on the clock is allowed. However please try and not make a habit out of using the entirety of said clock round after round looking for a last minute deal specifically.

4). ADD/DROPS - At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 7 day period for add/drops. All add/drops must be 1-for-1. Dropped players will NOT be eligible to be added by other teams.

5). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division.

6). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

7). PM the next GM after you have made your pick. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL!

GM's:

@ImporterExporter
@ResilientBeast
@TheDevilMadeMe
@Hawkey Town 18
@BenchBrawl
@Dirt 101
@Dreakmur
@rmartin65
@Claude The Fraud
@Habsfan18
@ChiTownPhilly
@Leaf Lander
@tinyzombies
@Voight
@Selfish Man
@tabness
@overpass
@nabby12
@Johnny Engine
@Professor What
@GlitchMarner
@tony d
@BraveCanadian
@MadArcand

Clock Deductions:

Voight - 1 hour
BraveCanadian - 1 hour


TRADES:

#13 and #205 pick to Selfish Man with #18 and #162 to nabby12
#28 and #117 pick to ProfessorWhat with #40 and #88 to ResilientBeast
#31, #66, and #114 to ChiTownPhilly with #39, #58, and #106 to SelfishMan
#36, and #132 pick to tabness with #68 and #77 to nabby12
#60, #181, #421, #444 to ResilientBeast with #69, #165, #357, and #556 to Dirt101
#88 and #172 to rmartin12 with #99 and #147 to ResilientBeast
#107 and #155 to GlitchMarner with #120 and #121 to BenchBrawl
#97, #145, and #193 to tinyzombies with #104, #137, and #185 to ImporterExporter
#96, #137 to ProfessorWhat with #105 and #117 to ImporterExporter
#109, #301, #397, #564 to Dirt101 with #133, #229, #348 and #469 to nabby12
#121, #182, #251 to ProfessorWhat with #137, #153, and #232 to BenchBrawl
#143, #239, #287 to SelfishMan with #175, #205, and #223 to Dreakmur
#149, #188, #236, #284 to TheDevilMadeMe with #151, #186, #234 and #282 to HawkeyTown18
#171, #262, and #406 to ImporterExporter with #185, #241, and #385 to JohnnyEngine
#180 and #372 to HawkeyTown18 with #234 and #245 to nabby12
#204, #252, #325, #517 to JohnnyEngine with #214, #241, #315, and #490 to Dirt101
#199. #236, #386 to Johnny Engine with #204, #219, #385 to TheDevilMadeMe

TRADE COUNTER:

Selfish Man = 3
nabby12 = 4
ProfessorWhat = 3
ResilientBeast = 3
ChiTownPhilly = 1
tabness = 1
Dirt101 = 3
rmartin12 = 1
BenchBrawl = 2
GlitchMarner = 1
ImporterExporter = 3
tinyzombies = 1
Dreakmur = 1
HawkeyTown = 2
TheDevilMadeMe = 2
JohnnyEngine = 3


PICKS:


ROUND 1:

1. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Bobby Orr, D
2. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Wayne Gretzky, C
3. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Gordie Howe, RW
4. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Mario Lemieux, C
5. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Doug Harvey, D
6. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ray Bourque, D
7. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Jean Beliveau, C
8. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
9. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Maurice Richard, RW
10. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Denis Potvin, D
11. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Bobby Hull, LW
12. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Eddie Shore, D
13. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Sidney Crosby, C
14. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bryan Trottier, C
15. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Mark Messier, C/LW
16. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Alex Ovechkin, LW/RW
17. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Red Kelly, D/C
18. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Howie Morenz, C
19. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Viacheslav Fetisov, D
20. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Jaromir Jagr, RW
21. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Patrick Roy, G
22. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Dominik Hasek, G
23. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Larry Robinson, D
24. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Stan Mikita, C

ROUND 2:

25. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Guy Lafleur, RW
26. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Bobby Clarke, C
27. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Chris Chelios, D
28. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Ted Lindsay, LW
29. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Paul Coffey, D
30. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Steve Yzerman, C
31. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Frank Nighbor, C
32. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Mike Bossy, RW
33. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brad Park, D
34. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - King Clancy, D
35. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Al MacInnis, D
36. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Phil Esposito, C
37. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Bill Cook, RW
38. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Sprague Cleghorn, D
39. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Joe Sakic, C
40. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
41. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Sergei Makarov, RW
42. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Pierre Pilote, D
43. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
44. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Frank Boucher, C
45. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Chris Pronger, D
46. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Tim Horton, D
47. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Jacques Plante, G
48. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Scott Stevens, D

ROUND 3:

49. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Earl Seibert, D
50. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Charlie Conacher, RW
51. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Zdeno Chara, D
52. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Brian Leetch, D
53. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Henri Richard, C
54. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Andy Bathgate, RW
55. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Bernie Geoffrion, RW
56. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Peter Forsberg, C
57, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Bill Gadsby, D
58. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Borje Salming, D
59. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Milt Schmidt, C
60. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Newsy Lalonde, C
61. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Aurele Joliat, LW
62. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jari Kurri, RW
63. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Anatoli Firsov, LW
64. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Syl Apps Sr, C
65. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Dickie Moore, LW
66. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Cy Denneny, LW
67. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Rod Langway, D
68. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Jack Stewart, D
69. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Glenn Hall, G
70. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Evgeni Malkin, C
71. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Martin Brodeur, G
72. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Mark Howe, D

ROUND 4:

73. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Marcel Dionne, C
74. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Teemu Selanne, RW
75. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Eddie Gerard, D
76. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Dit Clapper, D/RW
77. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Terry Sawchuk, G
78. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Vladislav Tretiak, G
79. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Boris Mikhailov, RW
80. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Sergei Fedorov, C
81. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Ken Dryden, G
82. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Frank Brimsek, G
83. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
84. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Brett Hull, RW
85. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Ted Kennedy, C
86. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Patrick Kane, RW
87. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Shea Weber, D
88. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Toe Blake, LW
89. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Frank Mahovlich, LW
90. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Sid Abel, C/LW
91. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Duncan Keith, D
92. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jarome Iginla, RW
93. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Martin St Louis, RW
94. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Elmer Lach, C
95. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Scott Niedermayer, D
96. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Valeri Vasiliev. D

ROUND 5:

97. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Erik Karlsson, D
98. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Drew Doughty, D
99. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Busher Jackson, LW
100. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Doug Bentley, LW/C
101. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Quackenbush, D
102. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Doug Gilmour, C
103. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Serge Savard, D
104. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Joe Malone, C/LW
105. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Johnny Bucyk, LW
106. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Guy Lapointe, D
107. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Victor Hedman, D
108. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Marcel Pronovost, D
109. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Max Bentley, C
110. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - JC Tremblay, D
111. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Hod Stuart, D
112. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bryan Hextall Sr, RW
113. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Alexei Kasatonov, D
114. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Hooley Smith, C/RW
115. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Pavel Bure, RW
116. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Luc Robitaille, LW
117. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Jacques Laperriere, D
118. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Georges Boucher, D
119. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Ivan Johnson, D
120. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Norm Ullman, C

ROUND 6:

121. ProfessorWhat - Gallifrey Tardis - Ron Francis, C
122. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Syd Howe, LW/C
123. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Brendan Shanahan, LW
124. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
125. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Larry Murphy, D
126. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Bert Olmstead, LW
127. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Rob Blake, D
128. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Marian Hossa, RW
129. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Ernie "Moose" Johnson, D
130. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Dave Keon, C
131. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gary Suter, D
132. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Eric Lindros, C
133. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Lionel Conacher, D
134. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Art Coulter, D
135. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Henrik Zetterberg, LW/C
136. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Sergei Zubov, D
137. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Babe Siebert, D/LW
138. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Georges Vezina, G
139. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Pavel Datsyuk, C
140. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Charlie Gardiner, G
141. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Peter Stastny, C
142. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Clint Benedict, G
143. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Nels Stewart, C/LW
144. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Vladimir Martinec, RW

ROUND 7:

145. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Tom Johnson, D
146. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Tommy Phillips, LW
147. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
148. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Turk Broda, G
149. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
150. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Sweeney Schriner, LW
151. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Paul Kariya, LW
152. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Joe Thornton, C
153, BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Harry Cameron, D
154. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Jan Suchy, D
155. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Ed Belfour, G
156. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Roy Conacher, LW
157. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Bill Cowley, C
158. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Billy Smith, G
159. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Mark Recchi, RW
160. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Adam Oates, C
161. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Bill Durnan, G
162. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Vladimir Krutov, LW
163. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Émile Bouchard, D
164. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Doug Wilson, D
165. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Patrik Elias, LW
166. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Frank Foyston, F
167. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Carl Brewer, D
168. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - John Leclair, LW

ROUND 8:

169. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Theo Fleury, RW
170. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Mike Modano - C
171. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
172. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Steven Stamkos, C
173. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Michel Goulet, LW
174. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Alexander Yakushev, LW
175. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Marty Barry, C
176. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Jonathan Toews, C
177. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Sylvio Mantha, D
178. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Allan Stanley, D
179. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Harry Howell, D
180. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Frantisek Pospisil, D
181. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Ken Reardon, D
182. ProfessorWhat - Gallifrey Tardis - Gilbert Perreault, C
183. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Bernie Parent, G
184. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Reg Noble, LW/C
185. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Lester Patrick, D
186. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jamie Benn, LW
187. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Eric Desjardins, D
188. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Anze Kopitar, C
189. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Lanny McDonald, RW
190. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Brent Burns, D
191. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Brad Marchand, LW
192. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Johnny Bower, G

ROUND 9:

193. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
194. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Pat Stapleton, D
195. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Dany Heatley, W
196. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Keith Tkachuk, LW
197. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Cecil Dillon, RW
198. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Nikita Kucherov, RW
199. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Rick Middleton, RW
200. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Grant Fuhr, G
201, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Tony Esposito, G
202. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Patrice Bergeron, C
203. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Claude Provost, RW
204. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Fern Flaman, D
205. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Bill White, D
206. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jimmy Thomson, D
207. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Didier Pitre, RW/D
208. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Paul Thompson, LW
209. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Sergei Gonchar, D
210. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Herb Gardiner, D
211. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Vladimir Petrov, C
212. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Steve Larmer, RW
213. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Mickey McKay, F
214. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Rod Gilbert, RW
215. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
216. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 10:

217. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
218. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
219. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
220. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
221. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
222. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
223. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
224. overpass - Ottawa Senators
225. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
226. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
227. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
228. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
229. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
230. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
231. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
232. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
233. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
234. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
235. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
236. Johnny Engine- Verafin Huskies
237. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
238. rmartin65 - New York Americans
239. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
240. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 11:

241. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
242. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
243. rmartin65 - New York Americans
244. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
245. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
246. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
247. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
248. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
249, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
250. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
251. ProfessorWhat - Gallifrey Tardis
252. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
253. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
254. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
255. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
256. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
257. overpass - Ottawa Senators
258. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
259. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
260. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
261. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
262. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC
263. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
264. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 12:

265. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
266. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
267. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
268. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
269. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
270. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
271. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
272. overpass - Ottawa Senators
273. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
274. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
275. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
276. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
277. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
278. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
279. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
280. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
281. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
282. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
283. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
284. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
285. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
286. rmartin65 - New York Americans
287. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
288. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 13:

289. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
290. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
291. rmartin65 - New York Americans
292. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
293. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
294. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
295. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
296. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
297, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
298. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
299. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
300. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
301. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
302. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
303. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
304. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
305. overpass - Ottawa Senators
306. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
307. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
308. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
309. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
310. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
311. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
312. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 14:

313. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
314. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
315. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
316. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
317. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
318. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
319. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
320. overpass - Ottawa Senators
321. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
322. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
323. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
324. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
325. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
326. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
327. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
328. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
329. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
330. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
331. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
332. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
333. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
334. rmartin65 - New York Americans
335. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
336. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 15:

337. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
338. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
339. rmartin65 - New York Americans
340. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
341. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
342. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
343. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
344. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
345, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
346. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
347. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
348. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
349. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
350. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
351. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
352. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
353. overpass - Ottawa Senators
354. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
355. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
356. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
357. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
358. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
359. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
360. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 16:

361. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
362. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
363. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
364. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
365. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
366. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
367. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
368. overpass - Ottawa Senators
369. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
370. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
371. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
372. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
373. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
374. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
375. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
376. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
377. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
378. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
379. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
380. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
381. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
382. rmartin65 - New York Americans
383. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
384. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 17:

385. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
386. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
387. rmartin65 - New York Americans
388. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
389. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
390. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
391. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
392. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
393, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
394. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
395. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
396. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
397. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
398. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
399. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
400. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
401. overpass - Ottawa Senators
402. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
403. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
404. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
405. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
406. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC
407. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
408. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 18:

409. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
410. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
411. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
412. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
413. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
414. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
415. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
416. overpass - Ottawa Senators
417. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
418. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
419. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
420. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
421. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
422. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
423. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
424. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
425. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
426. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
427. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
428. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
429. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
430. rmartin65 - New York Americans
431. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
432. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 19:

433. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
434. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
435. rmartin65 - New York Americans
436. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
437. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
438. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
439. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
440. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
441, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
442. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
443. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
444. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
445. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
446. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
447. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
448. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
449. overpass - Ottawa Senators
450. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
451. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
452. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
453. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
454. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
455. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
456. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 20:

457. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
458. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
459. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
460. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
461. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
462. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
463. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
464. overpass - Ottawa Senators
465. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
466. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
467. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
468. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
469. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
470. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
471. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
472. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
473. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
474. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
475. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
476. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
477. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
478. rmartin65 - New York Americans
479. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
480. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 21:

481. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
482. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
483. rmartin65 - New York Americans
484. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
485. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
486. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
487. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
488. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
489. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
490. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
491. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
492. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
493. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
494. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
495. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
496. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
497. overpass - Ottawa Senators
498. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
499. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
500. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
501. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
502. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
503. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
504. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 22:

505. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
506. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
507. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
508. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
509. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
510. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
511. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
512. overpass - Ottawa Senators
513. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
514. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
515. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
516. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
517. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
518. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
519. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
520. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
521. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
522. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
523. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
524. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
525. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
526. rmartin65 - New York Americans
527. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
528. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 23:

529. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
530. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
531. rmartin65 - New York Americans
532. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
533. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
534. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
535. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
536. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
537. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
538. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
539. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
540. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
541. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
542. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
543. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
544. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
545. overpass - Ottawa Senators
546. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
547. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
548. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
549. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
550. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
551. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
552. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 24:

553. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
554. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
555. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
556. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
557. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
558. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
559. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
560. overpass - Ottawa Senators
561. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
562. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
563. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
564. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
565. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
566. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
567. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
568. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
569. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
570. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
571. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
572. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
573. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
574. rmartin65 - New York Americans
575. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
576. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

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[TheDevilMadeMe]

Re: @BenchBrawl, Centers who are not playmakers drop because it reduces the supply of wingers available to them.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Re: @BenchBrawl, Centers who are not playmakers drop because it reduces the supply of wingers available to them.

Plus his VsX hurt him with some. He's not a guy who is going to carry a scoring line. I love Kennedy and he's exactly the type of guy you want on title caliber roster but he needs a little more help on the flanks than his peers that rank closely.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Not my original plan, but I'll pick who I think has been arguably the best offensive winger available since Sergei Makarov (counting playoffs), both a solid playmaker and shooter, wizard stickhandler and most clutch scorer of his generation, Patrick Kane, RW.

From about 2013 to 2019, a six years period, Kane was very much in the "best player in the world" conversation.

In terms of VsX, he got an impressive 93.9 for 7 years, despite missing time from injuries in a few key seasons.

Playoff-wise, he's got three Conn-Smythe caliber runs as well as another 20 pts run in a losing effort.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Didn't think Kane would make it past you. Good value there.

 

[VanIslander]

Plus his VsX hurt him with some. He's not a guy who is going to carry a scoring line. I love Kennedy and he's exactly the type of guy you want on title caliber roster but he needs a little more help on the flanks than his peers that rank closely.

Kennedy's playoff Vs.X is through the roof!

The three-time retro Conn Smythe (by SIHR) led a dynasty in scoring, twice the NHL leader in playoff goals, a third year the leader in assists.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Kennedy's playoff Vs.X is through the roof!

The three-time retro Conn Smythe (by SIHR) led a dynasty in scoring, twice the NHL leader in playoff goals, a third year the leader in assists.

Hence why I said "some" haha.

I'm a big fan of TK. He's money.

 

[tabness]

Nice to see Brett Hull go earlier than last year. Someone needs to make a line with the Hulls, with the obvious perfect center who also doesn’t need a lot of touches.

 

[VanIslander]

Someone needs to make a line with the Hulls, ...

I did before, I'm just not sure if it was the main ATD or one of the subsidiary drafts (e.g., OPPF or a vs.BB marathon).

 

[BenchBrawl]

I made some wild claim about Patrick Kane and probably got carried away a little bit, but among RWers taken since Makarov, he's the only one to tick all the boxes as an offensive winger:

1. Top offensive player (in general, not just points) on a championship team
2. Peak and prime
3. All-around offensive threat (playmaker, goalscorer)
4. Main driver on his line

 

[VanIslander]

Look at winger Andy Bathgate's career.

He has an incredible vs.x given he played for sucky-awful Rags with little help against HHOF-stacked teams in Toronto, Montreal and Detroit.

Bathgate is the Wayne Gretzky of wingers (in terms of assists).

I wish i had drafted him.

He is the greatest passing winger of all time.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Look at winger Andy Bathgate's career.

He has an incredible vs.x given he played for sucky-awful Rags with little help against HHOF-stacked teams in Toronto, Montreal and Detroit.

Bathgate is the Wayne Gretzky of wingers (in terms of assists).

I wish i had drafted him.

He is the greatest passing winger of all time.

Bathgate sucked ass in the playoffs, and failed to integrate good teams where given the opportunity at age 31.

Rather have someone like Kane, with shorter prime but more proven in his ability to integrate championship teams. Kane's playoff legacy is literally the extreme opposite of Bathgate's. We're not talking about a small difference.

 

[VanIslander]

Stop Bathgate and the Rags are dead.
Stop Dionne and the Kings are dead.

Defensive game plans in the playoffs are easy against those teams then.

I have heard coaches say such things often: take away their #1 scoring threat (focus extra checking/lane-passing protection) and dare their depth to step up (often.... crickets... seriously... ). Bathgate played with ZERO HHOF forwards in New York... let that sink in... O6 era, a PLETHORA of hall of famers elsewhere, Bathgate on an island like Gretzky was as a NY Ranger!!

 

[BenchBrawl]

Stop Bathgate and the Rags are dead.
Stop Dionne and the Kings are dead.

Defensive game plans in the playoffs are easy against those teams then.

I have heard coaches say such things often: take away their #1 scoring threat (extra checkers) and dare their depth to step up (often.... crickets... seriously... ). Bathgate played with ZERO HHOF forwards in New York... let that sink in... O6 era, a PLETHORA of hall of famers elsewhere, Bathgate on an island like Gretzky was as a NY Ranger!!

No one is asking Bathgate to be a hero on a crap team, but his decline was abrupt once he got the opportunity to play for stronger teams. Was it just a coincidence of ageing? Maybe. I'm not familiar with the in's and out's of his stint in Toronto and Detroit.

All I know is he had the worst +/- in the 1964 Stanley Cup win in Toronto (see here), they kept him for a year after that and then shipped him out. Someone more versed in the "behind-the-scenes" could elaborate and clarify.

Strictly on VsX or Top X finishes, Bathgate is much better than Kane and all the other wingers since Makarov, but the weaknesses in his resume are significant.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Look at winger Andy Bathgate's career.

He has an incredible vs.x given he played for sucky-awful Rags with little help against HHOF-stacked teams in Toronto, Montreal and Detroit.

Bathgate is the Wayne Gretzky of wingers (in terms of assists).

I wish i had drafted him.

He is the greatest passing winger of all time.

Bathgate put up a lot of assists playing point on the powerplay. At even strength, his goals/assists ratio wasn't nearly so skewed towards assists.

Either way, Gordie Howe is the greatest passing winger of all-time.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

No one is asking Bathgate to be a hero on a crap team, but his decline was abrupt once he got the opportunity to play for stronger teams. Was it just a coincidence of ageing? Maybe. I'm not familiar with the in's and out's of his stint in Toronto and Detroit.

All I know is he had the worst +/- in the 1964 Stanley Cup win in Toronto (see here), they kept him for a year after that and then shipped him out. Someone more versed in the "behind-the-scenes" could elaborate and clarify.

Strictly on VsX or Top X finishes, Bathgate is much better than Kane and all the other wingers since Makarov, but the weaknesses in his resume are significant.

Bathgate's style was a poor fit in Toronto's structured system, despite the Cup. One of Toronto's stars later blamed the trade for Bathgate for Toronto's decline (which seems silly, they had an aging core, but gets the the point of Bathgate being a poor fit).

Edit: Scroll to the bottom of this post for the actual quote:Round 2, Vote 3 (HOH Top Wingers)

 

[tinyzombies]

Bathgate's style was a poor fit in Toronto's structured system, despite the Cup. One of Toronto's stars later blamed the trade for Bathgate for Toronto's decline (which seems silly, they had an aging core, but gets the the point of Bathgate being a poor fit).

Too bad he didn't go somewhere where they actually play hockey and not rugby on ice (because the refs "let them play," in essence, "let them cheat their way to Cups.") And that goes for the 61 Hawks as well. HOT TAKE

 

[VanIslander]

No one is asking Bathgate to be a hero on a crap team, but his decline was abrupt once he got the opportunity to play for stronger teams.

All I know is he had the worst +/- in the 1964 Stanley Cup win in Toronto (see here),

1. "Once he got the opportunity to play for stronger teams"... You mean, once he played LESS (1/6) against stronger teams!

2. He led the NHL in assists in 1964 (traded midway from NY to T.O.). The +/- in the playoffs that year be damned!

3. I am well versed in Bathgate's history. He won the Hart trophy on a non-playoff team in a 6-team league (let THAT sink in...). His HHOF Leafs great ATD coach credited HIM as the reason Toronto won the cup (I'll gladly cite references once undrafteds could be discussed).

4. His play was not crap once he played in Toronto (unless the legendary coach is lying). And: judging a player based on his play after a solid dozen years needs a caveat.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Anyway, I wanted to make a splash with my Kane pick.

From 2013 to 2019, Kane has the 2nd most points in the NHL behind Crosby, the 2nd best point-per-game, and the 2nd best ES ratio in the Top 11 (used Top 11 to include Malkin).

	GP	PTS	Point-per-G	%PP
Crosby	509	607	1.192534381	33.27841845
Kane	504	569	1.128968254	30.9314587
Ovechkin	531	532	1.001883239	39.28571429
X	535	519	0.970093458	40.8477842
X	508	507	0.998031496	31.16370809
X	530	506	0.954716981	41.69960474
X	536	505	0.942164179	29.5049505
X	517	496	0.959381044	33.26612903
X	540	494	0.914814815	38.66396761
X	523	489	0.93499044	28.83435583
Malkin	425	475	1.117647059	39.57894737

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Within that spam, he also had back-to-back-to-back playoff runs of 19 (Smythe), 20 and 23 pts.

Crosby and Malkin got their back-to-back SCs in that spam too, and Ovechkin a gazillion Rockets + one Smythe, but overall, Kane was likely the 2nd best player in the world in that overall period. xxxx would be another choice, with Malkin and Ovechkin.

 

[nabby12]

1. "Once he got the opportunity to play for stronger teams"... You mean, once he played LESS (1/6) against stronger teams!

2. He led the NHL in assists in 1964 (traded midway from NY to T.O.). The +/- in the playoffs that year be damned!

3. I am well versed in Bathgate's history. He won the Hart trophy on a non-playoff team in a 6-team league (let THAT sink in...). His HHOF Leafs great ATD coach credited HIM as the reason Toronto won the cup (I'll gladly cite references once undrafteds could be discussed).

4. His play was not crap once he played in Toronto (unless the legendary coach is lying). And: judging a player based on his play after a solid dozen years needs a caveat.

Bathgate also scored the Stanley Cup winning goal for the Leafs that year.

 

[Dreakmur]

No one is asking Bathgate to be a hero on a crap team, but his decline was abrupt once he got the opportunity to play for stronger teams. Was it just a coincidence of ageing? Maybe. I'm not familiar with the in's and out's of his stint in Toronto and Detroit.

All I know is he had the worst +/- in the 1964 Stanley Cup win in Toronto (see here), they kept him for a year after that and then shipped him out. Someone more versed in the "behind-the-scenes" could elaborate and clarify.

Strictly on VsX or Top X finishes, Bathgate is much better than Kane and all the other wingers since Makarov, but the weaknesses in his resume are significant.

Bathgate has 3 non-New York playoff runs, all past his prime. One was bad, but explained by a broken wrist. One was good, where he was 2nd in goals for Toronto. One was excellent, where he led the league in goals.

 

[ted2019]

Sorry for holding the draft up, as I have a horrible migraine and the computer is killing it. The Philadelphia Phantoms are going to select Defenseman Shea Weber with the 87th pick.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Sorry for holding the draft up, as I have a horrible migraine and the computer is killing it. The Philadelphia Phantoms are going to select Defenseman Shea Weber with the 87th pick.

Wow I wanted him later, didn't expect him to go so early. He does have a nice skillset.

 

[ted2019]

Wow I wanted him later, didn't expect him to go so early. He does have a nice skillset.

He fits what I want to build, plus he's a very rare Right Shot Defenseman who can play 1st pairing minutes.

 

[BenchBrawl]

He fits what I want to build, plus he's a very rare Right Shot Defenseman who can play 1st pairing minutes.

And can play both special units