Dreger: Ask is "high" on Alex Chiasson

[ChaoticOrange]

His skating is the problem. Bringing AHL stats to an nhl argument is like bringing a butter knife to an Uzi fight

He scored a beauty of an OT goal the other night, went around Kale Clague like he was a pylon. Clague has zero skating issues.

 

[Double Dion]

He's a functional 4th liner on a team with depth. Late round pick should be the price for that type of rental.

 

[Joe Sakic]

Every team has those tweener/fringe NHLers either on their roster or on their AHL club. Nobody will be giving up a 2nd for one.

 

[RantanenRavin]

Well the deadline is going to be a quiet one folks.

How often is TDD loud? I don't know why I bother booking it off every year, it's like waking up with a hangover, and swearing to yourself, "never again". Deep down, you know that you will

 

[McDNicks17]

Every team has those tweener/fringe NHLers either on their roster or on their AHL club. Nobody will be giving up a 2nd for one.

Every team has a fringe NHLer with 17 goals and 10 assists on their roster or in the AHL?

 

[Dr Awesome]

A 2nd would seem pretty optimistic, especially with the number of quality wingers purportedly on the market. I think a 3rd would be reasonable.

You start with asking for second and hope that you get it but reality is the sellers knows they get 3rd

 

[Mez]

Funny how when chia gave players away for nothing it was laughable....now that they aim high its laughable...ok

 

[mouz135]

I’m going to guess that Chiasson never sniffs close to 17 goals again, ala Maroon when Edmonton dumped him. He’s a fringe player/borderline waiver fodder and it’ll show when he plays for a new team

 

[POVERTY]

Funny how when chia gave players away for nothing it was laughable....now that they aim high its laughable...ok

Low ask on a valuable asset = laughable
High ask on a not so valuable asset = laughable

Yes, you are correct. It's laughable.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

A 3rd and a nobody prospect is what I think he’ll return. Same as Maroon last year.

 

[NyIander]

Chiasson is hardly worth a 3rd round pick, nevermind a second. Guys a 4th line plug that gets to play with Mcdavid because the Oilers have no wingers.

 

[belair]

Middle six winger with 17 goals on a league min deal who is physical, plays net front on the PP and PKs. There'll be a market for him.

 

[sepHF]

Hagelin who makes significantly more money just went for a 3rd and a 6th and he has 2 goals this entire season lol

 

[therealkoho]

That wasn't the last time he was traded, but I'd like to point out that by saying this, you're saying a guy's trade value doesn't change in four and a half years?

no what i'm saying is he's barely and NHL player at this point and isn't worth anywhere close to a 2nd,
anybody with even a passing knowledge of player values know's this

 

[therealkoho]

Many of you have never negotiated a thing in your damned lives and it shows

Maroon got a 3rd and a C grade prospect, Chiasson could easily pull that.

****in Hagelin has 2 goals, 8 points, and five times the cap hit and just went for a 3rd and a conditional 6th.

ok so, the oilers got two pieces neither of whom is very likely to ever see NHL ice

 

[Seachd]

no what i'm saying is he's barely and NHL player at this point and isn't worth anywhere close to a 2nd,
anybody with even a passing knowledge of player values know's this

Are you not paying attention to the NHL this year?

 

[BKarchitect]

Hagelin who makes significantly more money just went for a 3rd and a 6th and he has 2 goals this entire season lol

Hagelin is a defensive specialist with a 120+ NHL playoff games under his belt including great playoff runs with both the Rangers and Penguins. Comparing Chiasson’s value to Hagelin’s using a tiny sample is a total false equivalency. Ask any GM and coach who’s they pay more as the gear up for a stretch run in the playoffs with Cup aspirations and I’d wager it would be a lot to nothing in favor of Hagelin. Unless you are so hurting for goal scoring that Chiasson’s the type of guy who would improve your top 6. In which case, you’re not a serious contender.

 

[Del Preston]

Low ask on a valuable asset = laughable
High ask on a not so valuable asset = laughable

Yes, you are correct. It's laughable.

Nowhere does it say the Oilers are asking for a 2nd. It's Darren Dreger guessing.

 

[POVERTY]

Nowhere does it say the Oilers are asking for a 2nd. It's Darren Dreger guessing.

My bad. If anything is laughable it's Darren Dreger being considered an "insider"

 

[Muffin]

Every team has a fringe NHLer with 17 goals and 10 assists on their roster or in the AHL?

Generally their fringe NHLers don't play with top line guys since they have actual depth.

Teams aren't getting Chaisson to play in their top 6 lol.

 

[Del Preston]

Chiasson is hardly worth a 3rd round pick, nevermind a second. Guys a 4th line plug that gets to play with Mcdavid because the Oilers have no wingers.

He's got 14 5-on-5 points this season and over half of them are with McDavid on the bench.

Would it kill some of you to look at the stats before posting in here?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

ok so, the oilers got two pieces neither of whom is very likely to ever see NHL ice

Why even have draft picks after the 2nd round then?

It’s important to have lots of picks in play and it’s important for this team to have as many assets as possible.

 

[CauZuki]

 

[sepHF]

Hagelin is a defensive specialist with a 120+ NHL playoff games under his belt including great playoff runs with both the Rangers and Penguins. Comparing Chiasson’s value to Hagelin’s using a tiny sample is a total false equivalency. Ask any GM and coach who’s they pay more as the gear up for a stretch run in the playoffs with Cup aspirations and I’d wager it would be a lot to nothing in favor of Hagelin. Unless you are so hurting for goal scoring that Chiasson’s the type of guy who would improve your top 6. In which case, you’re not a serious contender.

Forsure, Hagelin was awesome in the playoffs a couple years ago. I'll be honest I never really watch LA but I watch a lot of the Penguins and Hagelin has not been very good for the past 2+ years.

I'm sure he's still more sought after than a guy like Chiasson but I don't think Hagelin is even close to being the player he used to be anymore. Unless he just didn't like playing for the Penguins or something

 

[Turning Mangiapanese]

I don't really blame Gretzky for asking a 2nd rounder. When the names start disappearing from the board on Monday someone might bite, crazier things have happened on TDL. I'm no fan of Chiasson but he does have 17 goals and recent playoff experience and that's not nothing. Worst case scenario the Oilers keep him, have some locker room stability for once and work on re-signing him. In the past they've pawned off Schultz, Petry etc. for 4th rounders and that has lead them nowhere. Might be good for Gretzky to make a bit of a statement here, that he won't bend over to anything like Chiarelli. Burke did a similar thing in Calgary with Cammalleri a few years back.