OT: Around the NHL | Good riddance, Rivalry Night

[BladeRunner66]

It’s really only one guy. I got sucked in to a reply but I was civil and used common sense. That probably won’t cut it

It's now 12 pages and going on...

 

[BladeRunner66]

...and i just got sucked in too a moment ago.

 

[Tom Hanks]

...and i just got sucked in too a moment ago.

 

[BladeRunner66]

Quote of the thread!:

If an entire message board is arguing against you, if FLYERS fans are advocating FOR a Penguins' player, there's a good chance your opinion sucks.

Seriously that thread is on a roll, getting hard to follow.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

@Honour Over Glory

Dan Rosen and EJ Hradek spent a fair amount of discussing Henrik's patience - or lack thereof - with teammates in the Rangers preview.

Yeah, he just needs to go, I understand why he's choked, but it's not like the Rangers were horrendous his entire tenure with them so far. There's also the fact that the coaches he's had, have tailored their team's system to protect him first and foremost and that was probably their biggest downfall during his prime/peak years. They basically sheltered the crap out of him and were one of the top shot blocking teams for a long time because of it. Then the playoffs would start and he'd get exploited like crazy because teams have a best of 7 to prep and find a way around their shot blocking and collapsing. His entire Rangers career, he's missed the playoffs what, 2x?

For Henrik to throw his tantrums, yell at the ref, then throw his team under the bus just shows a huge lack of character. He'll go down as a great, no doubt, but the Rangers hanging on to him is about as dumb as the Canucks hanging on to the Twins. Know when to walk away.

Rangers would be smart to eat 2m/yr of his salar (he'd then be a 6.5m cap hit or something) in exchange for another 1st round pick, a prospect, and a youngish NHL ready forward.

Again, Toronto should be the most interested and vice versa given they are desperate more than ever to make the biggest splash as they can, netting Tavares and then Lundqvist in the same off season would basically make them one of the biggest favorites in the Cup race. Take Andersen off their hands, ask for their 1st, then pry one of their prospects off of them like Kapanen or Liljegren.

Andersen is a 5m/yr cap hit.
Lundqvist would then be a 6.5m/yr cap hit for 3 more years.

Wait, why am I trying to fix these two shit teams?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

They’ve got an internal cap and wanted to stay pretty low this season. Maybe next year they’ll spend a bit more. They aren’t far away from competing in the playoffs. At the moment the West wildcard spot is s little easier. I love Raanta. Thought he was the best goalie in the NHL last season (didn’t get a Vezina nomination!)

Speaking of internal caps. The NHL cap floor is 58.8 mil. Carolina is at 61 mil and should be competitive. They are the anti-Detroit who are maxed out and already into LTIR

Detroit is such a shit show, it's awesome. While we give zero shits about 2009, they hold that torch like @ColePens missing out on a deal of a lifetime at the Gucci loafer sale.

I wonder why any player signs for a long term deal with Detroit, like what was Larkin thinking there? That they'll magically become better managed? Good luck with that dude, I would have loved Larkin on the Pens, him and AA are tailor made for the Pens. I'll dream.

I really wanted Matthews to end up in Arizona some how, but it's too bad that won't happen. Arizona has decent fans, I get why they don't go to many games when they've had a terrible city/arena issue and relationship and then the ownership changes and terrible owners. I really hope they find that stability, if the NHL is hell bent on never moving them, then I hope that team is finally sorted out. It seems like they could be, I really like that Galchenyuk deal, the Tocchet hiring, AR as their #1, etc...I feel like we'll see the Coyotes rise up the ranks next season. They won't make the playoffs, but they'll finish higher than the Oilers for sure.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Randy Lee resigned. Source
Jim Corsi (yes, that guy) was hired by the Jackets as their new goaltending coach. Source
Handzus is retiring. Source

I thought 'Zus retired years ago.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Yeah, the Hawks messed up too, but at least you can understand why they'd view Raanta as expendable. Corey Crawford was much younger and much better than Lundqvist.

You're probably right about the expansion draft and I guess it worked out well enough for Vegas, even if Raanta is better than Fleury too.

I view Crawford as better than Lundy, not quite sure what is up with his injury (Is it or isn't it post concussion, enjoy that Crosby-esque drama, Hawks fans). I think Vegas would have wanted Fleury no matter what. He came with fanfare, 3 cups under his name, a very respectable career with enough in the tank to prove he can do more (and then he did), he's their first franchise superstar. AR wouldn't have been, I think that was just a great match no matter what, Vegas was going to get fans, but Fleury helped put them there faster.

Anyone see the TSN documentary on mid 80s 1st Overall Joe Murphy? How his playing injuries might have contributed to him being homeless for many years?

Finding Joe Murphy: Former Blackhawk and No. 1 overall pick is homeless


NHL is gonna get in more hot water the more players speak out. The league already got really lucky that the class action was thrown out, though.

He might have had injuries, sure.

But Joe Murphy was also a grade A asshole of a human being. He burned every bridge he possibly could with multiple teams before he left the NHL on messed up terms. Whether he wants to blame injuries or his behavior is up to him, but I can't feel sorry for him knowing about the kind of person he was then vs what he's become now.

 

[EightyOne]

He might have had injuries, sure.

But Joe Murphy was also a grade A ******* of a human being. He burned every bridge he possibly could with multiple teams before he left the NHL on messed up terms. Whether he wants to blame injuries or his behavior is up to him, but I can't feel sorry for him knowing about the kind of person he was then vs what he's become now.

Yeah. I have no idea. I didnt watch or read much. Just thought someone might have caught it and been able to report more.

But I mean, f*** the NHL and NHLPA and NHL Officials Association, in any case.

 

[Clare2904]

The wifebeating bucket Voynov can return to the NHL. f*** anyone who gives him job.

 

[Tom Hanks]

The wifebeating **** bucket Voynov can return to the NHL. **** anyone who gives him job.

Can he actually get a visa?

 

[BHD]

I'm glad the organization doesn't need to sign him. A team could benefit from signing him, but his off-ice actions are deplorable.

 

[BladeRunner66]

After Malkin VS Matthews now it's Malkin VS Karlsson!

What's next? Malkin VS Batman?

 

[BHD]

There's a Malkin/Sakic thread too.

 

[Tom Hanks]

After Malkin VS Matthews now it's Malkin VS Karlsson!

What's next? Malkin VS Batman?

I’m waiting for Malkin vs Encino man but someone will only use their scores on the Radmobile arcade game.

One guy in the threads was trying to discredit Malkin and doing a terrible job. Saying he has one of the highest PP points percentage which doesn’t really matter when you’re one of the best ES producers since he’s played in the NHL.

Or one year his PPG dropped when Crosby was out. He was going at a 1.4 PPG rate, oh no!

 

[Clare2904]

TSN reporting Zetterberg will not play this season due to a bad back. Oh how f***ing predictable

 

[EightyOne]

I’m waiting for Malkin vs Encino man but someone will only use their scores on the Radmobile arcade game.

One guy in the threads was trying to discredit Malkin and doing a terrible job. Saying he has one of the highest PP points percentage which doesn’t really matter when you’re one of the best ES producers since he’s played in the NHL.

Or one year his PPG dropped when Crosby was out. He was going at a 1.4 PPG rate, oh no!

Without a doubt you should make this thread.

 

[BHD]

Zetterberg has a history of back problems, and I believe he would play unless he physically couldn't. It's crazy to think how far the Wings have fallen though.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

TSN reporting Zetterberg will not play this season due to a bad back. Oh how ****ing predictable

But it's not cap circumvention! (even though Datsyuk admitted his own contract was a way around the cap)

 

[Clare2904]

But it's not cap circumvention! (even though Datsyuk admitted his own contract was a way around the cap)

Can't wait for the excuse Montréal come up with for Weber in a few years. Utter utter cheating bullshit

 

[TNT87]

Detroit fans will blame Zetterberg's bad back on the '09 Penguin team in some way.

 

[Tom Hanks]

TSN reporting Zetterberg will not play this season due to a bad back. Oh how ****ing predictable

They probably took a baseball bat to his back so they could stay under the cap

 

[heysmilinstrange]

But it's not cap circumvention! (even though Datsyuk admitted his own contract was a way around the cap)

At least it's not a rash.

 

[66-30-33]

Detroit fans will blame Zetterberg's bad back on the '09 Penguin team in some way.

Might as well. I dunno how anyone can still be salty almost a decade later but they still are. That's what you call the most entitled fanbase on HFBoards. Gotta love how anytime Pens win the cup it's been rigged, like people ACTUALLY believe that shit. We should have 0 cups and 0 playoff visits in our entire time Pens have been around in the NHL, because we are such a useless and worthless hockey club and fanbase. Anything and everything bad should happen to us because they are the Penguins and stuff like that.

 

[BHD]

If only they distributed more curly fries that night. The home team MIGHT have won.